Shannan Gilbert's Remains

[ps149]

For all WE know, it's actually the Suffolk County ME holding her body hostage. Geez!

Completely false. We've covered this four times already with documentation, links and even a video interview of MG & her attorney. All the proof is out there that MG and her attorney requested for the medical examiner to hold on to SG's remains until an autopsy by an independent examiner can be conducted. Her attorney even went on record to state that the entire reason for filing the lawsuit against CPH was to raise awareness of this case enough in hopes that enough money could be raised for them to fund that independent exam.

So either way, not accepting SG's remains is absolutely a legal strategy. Either they are hoping that CPH will pay for the exam to help prove his innocence or they are hoping that people like us (who feel sorry that SG's remains have still not been permitted to be put in the ground so she can rest in peace) will fund her independent autopsy. You decide whether or not you feel that it is disrespectful to leave her in an ice cold filing cabinet for all these years.

 

[Redbird]

Having never known SG or her family I would not presume to know what SG's wishes would be. Would she want to have her killer exposed and punished or would she rather have her bones placed in the hard, cold ground and her death and cause of death always remain a mystery? And why would one presume the family is waiting on CPH to pay for another autopsy? If it were my daughter he would be the last person on earth I would want to pay for an autopsy. I find it very disrespectful to claim to know MG's motives.

 

[giagreen]

Having never known SG or her family I would not presume to know what SG's wishes would be. Would she want to have her killer exposed and punished or would she rather have her bones placed in the hard, cold ground and her death and cause of death always remain a mystery? And why would one presume the family is waiting on CPH to pay for another autopsy? If it were my daughter he would be the last person on earth I would want to pay for an autopsy. I find it very disrespectful to claim to know MG's motives.

I agree with you that it's disrespectful to judge or assume that we know what MG's motives are. All I have to say is that I understand. I understand that things like these are not cheap. I understand that not everyone has the money to just do it. I understand why a mother would chose to do what MG is doing. It might not be what I would want or what I would do. But, I do understand. It would be so hard to bury a child with out the answers knowing that if you did you just might be burying the answers right along with her.
It is truly a tough call. Until one walks in MG shoes we just won't ever know what it feels like or what we would do if we were in the same spot.
To me from day one MG seemed to care deeply about her daughter and I think she has done a great job at honoring her daughter and being her voice regardless.

 

[sleuthinforfun]

Completely false. We've covered this four times already with documentation, links and even a video interview of MG & her attorney. All the proof is out there that MG and her attorney requested for the medical examiner to hold on to SG's remains until an autopsy by an independent examiner can be conducted. Her attorney even went on record to state that the entire reason for filing the lawsuit against CPH was to raise awareness of this case enough in hopes that enough money could be raised for them to fund that independent exam.

So either way, not accepting SG's remains is absolutely a legal strategy. Either they are hoping that CPH will pay for the exam to help prove his innocence or they are hoping that people like us (who feel sorry that SG's remains have still not been permitted to be put in the ground so she can rest in peace) will fund her independent autopsy. You decide whether or not you feel that it is disrespectful to leave her in an ice cold filing cabinet for all these years.

I believe the reason the lawsuit was filed because of CPH's phone call to MG. Any info gained through that process could, by default, raise awareness of the case and potentially help with costs since JR's services are pro bono.

I think what's disrespectful is assuming MG is using her daughter's body as a "legal strategy". I think it's also disrespectful that her body was in a marsh for who knows how long without her family knowing where she was. I think that's far more disrespectful than her body being in a drawer. At least the family knows where she is. I also think it's disrespectful that anyone else has such issue over what a mother chooses to do with her daughter's remains. SG's going to be buried at some point. Might as well be ONCE, not twice.

 

[LINative13]

I believe the reason the lawsuit was filed because of CPH's phone call to MG. Any info gained through that process could, by default, raise awareness of the case and potentially help with costs since JR's services are pro bono.

I think what's disrespectful is assuming MG is using her daughter's body as a "legal strategy". I think it's also disrespectful that her body was in a marsh for who knows how long without her family knowing where she was. I think that's far more disrespectful than her body being in a drawer. At least the family knows where she is. I also think it's disrespectful that anyone else has such issue over what a mother chooses to do with her daughter's remains. SG's going to be buried at some point. Might as well be ONCE, not twice.

So we just are to assume whatever questionable practice is done by MG is fine? OK. Sounds reasonable.

Her body was in the marsh for over a year. Fact. SG is is also in a drawer right now for over another year. Fact.
Facts are not disrespectful.

 

[sleuthinforfun]

So we just are to assume whatever questionable practice is done by MG is fine? OK. Sounds reasonable.

Her body was in the marsh for over a year. Fact. SG is is also in a drawer right now for over another year. Fact.
Facts are not disrespectful.

Maybe I'm missing the "questionable practice" of MG by not burying her daughter before getting, basically, a second opinion? What is the expectation?

 

[LINative13]

questionable practice? leaving your daughter in a morgue for 2 years. I am sorry but she could have come up with 10k in 2 years. 10k in two years is 5k a year. That is 100 a week. Which is 20 hours a week at a minimum wage job. 20 hours a week can be done with 4 hours a day from Monday to Friday.

Maybe not a questionable practice but more of a lack of priorities.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

questionable practice? leaving your daughter in a morgue for 2 years. I am sorry but she could have come up with 10k in 2 years. 10k in two years is 5k a year. That is 100 a week. Which is 20 hours a week at a minimum wage job. 20 hours a week can be done with 4 hours a day from Monday to Friday.

Maybe not a questionable practice but more of a lack of priorities.

If you had read Bob Kolker's book - you would have read that MG put her kids in foster care for two years when SG was 6 and her sister Sherre was 5 and Sara was 4 and Stevie must have been under a year.

She put her kids in foster care because (as the book states) the boyfriend (not the father of any of the 4 girls) didn't like her kids. When the kids returned home after 2 years in foster care - Shannan was not to come back home as the boyfriend particularly didn't like her.

So - if you want to get the full picture of MG - you have to factor in her priorities towards Shannan when she was just a wee little girl - thrown into foster care for the rest of her life because her mother rejected her.

I am only stating what was in the book.

 

[LINative13]

So SG is a priority to sue for but not a priority to bury?

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

So SG is a priority to sue for but not a priority to bury?

re: Dec. 10, 2013 pleadings
Defendants shall answer plaintiff's complaint by January 15, 2014.
The matter is set down for a primary conference on March 18, 2014.

 

[LINative13]

I don't care about the court dat and is irrelevant.
The facts are she has not been buried by request of her family, and has been dead for a few years. Not even Michael Jackson was above ground that long after death.