Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt3

[panthera]

I am starting to wonder if that box of books were true crime cases and instead of reading them just flipped some pages and took bits and pieces from the other family killers but IMO He should have read them cause he would have found out they all got caught

So true, even John List, the most famous of all. MOO

 

[mikeysmommom]

You never know though, JM herself or other people who worked there could've received threats as well, they just aren't letting the media know about it.

I am sure JM receives threats all the time:boohoo:,but I doubt anyone would target a worker. I think he thought being a preachers son and working for a woman who I am sure gets threats he just ran with it.Thinking he would be above suspicion.
His arrogance will do him in IMO.Major Conner knows who did it and I think we do to:furious:.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I am sure JM receives threats all the time:boohoo:,but I doubt anyone would target a worker. I think he thought being a preachers son and working for a woman who I am sure gets threats he just ran with it.Thinking he would be above suspicion.
His arrogance will do him in IMO.Major Conner knows who did it and I think we do to:furious:.

This is another indication of sociopathic behaviour, IMO. Out of all the other 'more important' people surrounding him, he was the only one important enough to be receiving these threats? WTH! It's reminiscent of KC Anthony's tale of her family being in danger by the bad guys after lil Caylee disappeared.

 

[Wrinkles]

Greetings Pres101,

In that article it says "Memorials can be made to the families choice c/o Grace Church Ministries".

No specific destination for the money. This would mean that you give money and the family (Chris Coleman) decides what to do with it.

Thanks for the info -- yes, I had found the above. There were several obits (for several services) -- the one I saw was not the one that read like the above (although it was for the Chester service at the church of Chris' dad). I would have understood that (i.e. "of choice"), even as I understood the one that I saw that specified an "earmarked" fund for the money to go to. It was not the "Coleman family fund" or the "Coleman family memorial" or "Victims of violent crimes" -- it indicated a specifically "named" fund at the church. I am really really clear about that. I just can't find the obit and could kick myself for not having called it out when I read it, "noting" the specific name.

At anyrate, I'll drop it -- but there is just something bothering me about that fund and I wonder how it will be used. I hope that the funds will be used to honor Sheri and the children.

W

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello Panthera and All,

Panthera, you wrote:
>>I'll agree with your theories about the phone calls, but what I had in mind was more like what he told or was going to tell LE as the reason why he repeatedly called them.<<

I think it was TallCoolOne that was reminded about one fellow who called home to say, "Hello beautiful."

W

 

[RR0004]

You are so right, but have we heard about the family dynamics. Since my mom died, my dad went off and married the town alcholoic//addict. I've pretty much cut my ties with that side of the family.

My husband specifically knows that I don't want a funeral (cremation instead) and to NOT even call my family. My brother is the only person who will know (and my dear husbands family of course). My side has just turned into trash. My ashes will be tossed in our family estate in Coughton Court, in England (yah, I'm a Throckmorton from the Gunpowder Plot). That's the only place I want to be.

It's also close to his folks home - so a simple ceremony with his side of the family would be just fine.

In short, many families are so f'n dysfunctional, that I can't take into account they were called 2 days later, when my family probably won't be called at all!

Best,

Melanie

But don't we know now that her family had to go to court to get permission to bring Sheri and the boys to Chicago for a memorial service? That sounds as if they cared very much. Could it be that CC didn't make the call because he was aware of how Sheri's family felt about him? That they were aware of the "trouble" going on in her life? Sorry, if this has been discussed.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Greetings Pres101,



Thanks for the info -- yes, I had found the above. There were several obits (for several services) -- the one I saw was not the one that read like the above (although it was for the Chester service at the church of Chris' dad). I would have understood that (i.e. "of choice"), even as I understood the one that I saw that specified an "earmarked" fund for the money to go to. It was not the "Coleman family fund" or the "Coleman family memorial" or "Victims of violent crimes" -- it indicated a specifically "named" fund at the church. I am really really clear about that. I just can't find the obit and could kick myself for not having called it out when I read it, "noting" the specific name.

At anyrate, I'll drop it -- but there is just something bothering me about that fund and I wonder how it will be used. I hope that the funds will be used to honor Sheri and the children.

W

IMO its ASCCA Fund not a good way to Honor Sheri and her 2 sons IMO. A SAVE CC a** Fund

 

[panthera]

Hello Panthera and All,

Panthera, you wrote:
>>I'll agree with your theories about the phone calls, but what I had in mind was more like what he told or was going to tell LE as the reason why he repeatedly called them.<<

I think it was TallCoolOne that was reminded about one fellow who called home to say, "Hello beautiful."

W

Ohhhhh yes ~ how could I ever forget. :doh:

 

[OrdinaryLife]

This case reads like a DP Peterson. Only, two children were murdered and not one. Doing a quick read, this guy covered his butt. I have very real difficulty believing that he was *so* concerned about his family that he left them to go to the gym and then called LE because he couldn't get hold of his wife on the phone. Nope, not so much. Threatening letters left thoughout the home??? Pul-eeze. Set up.

As far as his being a Preacher's son, etc....means absolutely nothing to me. How many times have we read about sociopathic people being part of some religious family/group only to learn it was nothing but part of their exterior life. Not real. A "cover" that hid their true person.

Stepped in. stepping out, and now will wait for those with more knowledge to enlighten me more.

 

[RR0004]

from the obit just posted:

COLUMBIA - Sheri A. Coleman, 31, passed away at 7:55 a.m. Tuesday, May 5, 2009, at her residence.

link http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thesouthern/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=127063229

why would they put this time and where did they get that info???

I'm not 100% sure...but usually time of death is called when the body has been brought to the hospital. This may have been when a doctor pronounced her in the emergency room of whatever hospital she was brought to (though it wasn't much longer after discovery).

ETA: still doesn't explain the wording, though.

 

[panthera]

I'm not 100% sure...but usually time of death is called when the body has been brought to the hospital. This may have been when a doctor pronounced her in the emergency room of whatever hospital she was brought to (though it wasn't much longer after discovery).

I'm not exactly sure what happened in this case, although transportation to a hospital is not always what occurs. It could be that the victims were obviously deceased when LE arrived, or EMS arrived and could not revive the victims, thereby calling the coroner's office to come to the scene and pronounce death (7:55am). In which case, the bodies would be transported to the morgue for autopsy. MOO

 

[Melanie]

Y'all are crazy. He's clearly innocent. He's being set up! It will all be clear soon. Not calling her parents, he was in shock. The girlfriend, demons got him. The lawyer, the cops were scaring him. He's a preacher's kid, he couldn't have done it. There had to be someone hidden in the house. Innocent until proven guilty!

errr...we don't call anyone crazy on this MB. There's room for both sides, and Ive seen both sides written in a well respected manner. You could learn a lesson or 2

:slap:

 

[Melanie]

I'm not exactly sure what happened in this case, although transportation to a hospital is not always what occurs. It could be that the victims were obviously deceased when LE arrived, or EMS arrived and could not revive the victims, thereby calling the coroner's office to come to the scene and pronounce death (7:55am). In which case, the bodies would be transported to the morgue for autopsy. MOO

Oh that makes so much more sense to me. When I heard SC passed at 7:55 I'm like "WHAT"!!! This necessarily isn't the TOD, and wouldn't make a lot of sense.

I think one of the neigbors could confirm if the victims left in a coronor's van vs. an ambulance.

Now I feel like such a plonker....

Thanks!

Melanie

 

[panthera]

Oh that makes so much more sense to me. When I heard SC passed at 7:55 I'm like "WHAT"!!! This necessarily isn't the TOD, and wouldn't make a lot of sense.

I think one of the neigbors could confirm if the victims left in a coronor's van vs. an ambulance.

Now I feel like such a plonker....

Thanks!

Melanie

You're most welcome. Don't feel badly ~I just know first-hand what the possibilities are.

 

[panthera]

errr...we don't call anyone crazy on this MB. There's room for both sides, and Ive seen both sides written in a well respected manner. You could learn a lesson or 2

:slap:

I interpreted this post as the poster was kidding ~ saying something like what a defense attorney would come up with.

 

[Melanie]

I'm not 100% sure...but usually time of death is called when the body has been brought to the hospital. This may have been when a doctor pronounced her in the emergency room of whatever hospital she was brought to (though it wasn't much longer after discovery).

ETA: still doesn't explain the wording, though.

Haven't been perusing the obits in a while -- but do folks normally put the time? Whem my mom died, we said she passed on January 14, followed by the year. No time. Does it strike anyone as odd?

Best,

Mel

 

[Melanie]

This case reads like a DP Peterson. Only, two children were murdered and not one. Doing a quick read, this guy covered his butt. I have very real difficulty believing that he was *so* concerned about his family that he left them to go to the gym and then called LE because he couldn't get hold of his wife on the phone. Nope, not so much. Threatening letters left thoughout the home??? Pul-eeze. Set up.

As far as his being a Preacher's son, etc....means absolutely nothing to me. How many times have we read about sociopathic people being part of some religious family/group only to learn it was nothing but part of their exterior life. Not real. A "cover" that hid their true person.

Stepped in. stepping out, and now will wait for those with more knowledge to enlighten me more.

Sunday School teachers are murderers too! Melissa Huckaby comes to mind. A SUNDAY school teacher accused of raping and murdering a girl and leaving the body in a suitcase has cried during her first court appearance.

I personally think people like this hide behind their religion, making them appear so innocent (oh, he/she would never do that). Just like CC, IMHO he may have felt he could hide behind JMM -- fortunately, she didn't take the bait.

again - just my opinion.

Best,

Mel

 

[panthera]

Haven't been perusing the obits in a while -- but do folks normally put the time? Whem my mom died, we said she passed on January 14, followed by the year. No time. Does it strike anyone as odd?

Best,

Mel

No ~ it isn't normal. The instinces where the exact TOD is known are usually when it occurs in a hospital. In this case the time listed is only for documentation (death certificate) purposes, not as the time the murder occurred. Since this is a homicide, it is very odd to list the time in an obituary, imo.

 

[DairyGirl]

No ~ it isn't normal. The instinces where the exact TOD is known are usually when it occurs in a hospital. In this case the time listed is only for documentation (death certificate) purposes, not as the time the murder occurred. Since this is a homicide, it is very odd to list the time in an obituary, imo.

Unless you were trying to create doubt as to who the killer could be I suppose.

 

[panthera]

Unless you were trying to create doubt as to who the killer could be I suppose.

That's about the only explanation I can think of. Note the obit also has his name listed with "he survives" afterward. Was this written by him? :waitasec: