Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt3

[who knew?]

If blackmail is just BS then why dd LE go and seize electronic surveillance equipment from his employer? Tell me.

If Coleman was the murderer (and I believe he is), why would he scrawl messages in his house, alluding to an enemy? Why would he act like someone is threatening him unless he did so to further his plan to place suspicion away from himself?

He is dumb, right? Why is Chris Coleman running around free when strangling of victims would leave DNA evidence that is enough to convict right now?

Everybody "knows" that CC strangled his wife and kids, right? Open and shut. Why then is LE wasting time?

I'd like to know your view.

Can you just lay it all out there for those of us who may be a little slow????

 

[fran]

If this man is guilty of murdering his whole family, and he was going to commit suicide, imo, that would have been when he would have done it.
moo

Imo, if he is guilty, he will run, but he won't harm himself.
If he is not guilty, then he would feel guilty for being alive, and the guilt and suffering could cause a desire to end the pain, and be reunited with his family.
moo

I don't understand what is being implied about the video surveillance company, as it could easily be work related, after all he was in security, was he not?
I don't have enough info about the threats that are said to have occurred before the crime. Does anyone know more detail about that? If so, share please, tia.

Right now, the biggest thing I find suspect about him is that her family had to fight to have a service for them with them there. Not good. Sounds controlling, and cruel. A kind hearted person would not have done that imo. A control freak would though, which gives more weight to her name being taken off all possesions as a premeditated measure to reduce legal problems postmordem, rather than a financial debt overload, and using her name to get them up and running again after a foreclosure or bankruptcy status.

moo

I totally agree with you and you made me realize I forgot one of the internet *rumors* implied by an anonomous poster on a news blog.

That yes, there may have been financial troubles in the family.......but that's why her name was taken off everything, SHERI liked to spend money..........

I believe I hear an echo from the *Nancy Cooper* murder. Brad claimed he took her name off all credit cards and gave her an allowance because she spent to much money. Gosh, he even had to follow her to the gas station and put the gas in her car and pay for it, because he was AFRAID she'd get cash/back if he allowed her to have a debit card..........yeah, he also rationed the amount of gas he put in because he wanted to be sure she had enough gas to take the kids to school and extra curricular stuff, but he couldn't let her have any extra gas because she might go shopping and spend more money.

Puhleeeze!!!!!

fran

PS.........Please! Anyone who is/was Sheri Coleman's friend, IF you know ANYTHING, about Sheri's life, PLEASE call LE. You may know something that will connect a few dots!.....fran

 

[IdleSleuth]

Don't quote me but I don't think JM herself was ever a target. Paranoia does strange things to people.

In any case, this BM issue is a "plausible alternative" that CC was counting on. How else would anyone believe the -eyed story of a stalker breaking into his house to kill his family as revenge when he himself was ten minutes "away" in the Gym?

CC had to know he would be suspect #1. Why would he kill his family unless he had a Plan-B for when the cops came calling.

hehehe .. thanks ... because, if proven, there's going to be charges for that.. hmmm .. going out on a limb here .. has JMM filed charges?

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making it more interesting is I believe the "third shift" was not at the Fenton headquarters of the ministry but rather to "secure" and monitor the Meyer family compound where Meyer and her children live off I-270 and Gravois

Then there's that little tidbit that he travelled with Meyer and the ministry ..

my, my, my!

 

[panthera]

Interesting new comment on the Post site
"StLwannabe May 17, 2009 2:26PM CST
George is right about the open / closed caskets. They were open for the family and JM to view then Chris requested that they be closed for the public viewing. Also, Sheri's jaw was broke so she must've put up some kinda struggle. And no, I wasn't at the funeral but a family member of mine was. CC mother told my family member about Sheri's jaw being broke."

How awful, if true.

*IF* true, I believe an ex-Marine could've done it rather quickly without Sheri putting up much of a struggle. MOO

 

[SuziQ]

FWIW, the lack of a suspect name and arrest means nothing. LE rarely names a suspect or makes an arrest in a capital murder case until the case is ready for trial. About the only time you see a suspect named is if they are on the run and a warrant has been issued for their arrest, and LE needs to publics help in apprehension. .

 

[panthera]

And add a coroner's inquest and grand jury, we might not see an arrest for six months. Thank goodness Conner said 8 weeks or I'd be really depressed.

And this time delay definitely leads me to believe they know the killer is not a threat to the public.

 

[Texas Mist]

Can you just lay it all out there for those of us who may be a little slow????

I'm still lost on how blackmail entered the picture....we'd already heard about the 'threat' letters & the message(s) left inside the house.

Still not getting how there's either a 'leap' to CC & extortion just because LE confiscated some electronic equipment from JMM.

 

[SuziQ]

I'm still lost on how blackmail entered the picture....we'd already heard about the 'threat' letters & the message(s) left inside the house.

Still not getting how there's either a 'leap' to CC & extortion just because LE confiscated some electronic equipment from JMM.

ITA, I would expect LE to at least confiscate any computer, phone, etc that CC used, including those his employer provided access to.

 

[who knew?]

I'm still lost on how blackmail entered the picture....we'd already heard about the 'threat' letters & the message(s) left inside the house.

Still not getting how there's either a 'leap' to CC & extortion just because LE confiscated some electronic equipment from JMM.

Thanks for posting - I thought I was the only one left in the dust!

 

[Texas Mist]

Don't quote me but I don't think JM herself was ever a target. Paranoia does strange things to people.

In any case, this BM issue is a "plausible alternative" that CC was counting on. How else would anyone believe the -eyed story of a stalker breaking into his house to kill his family as revenge when he himself was ten minutes "away" in the Gym?

CC had to know he would be suspect #1. Why would he kill his family unless he had a Plan-B for when the cops came calling.

So if I understand what you're getting at is that CC committed a felony (extortion) which could have landed him in jail & caused him to lose his job -- in order to frame someone else for murder(s) that he was planning.

That doesn't appear to me to be a win-win situation.

 

[Carrington]

I think he is using Plan A, Plan B hasn't reared it's ugly head yet.
IMO

 

[Texas Mist]

ITA, I would expect LE to at least confiscate any computer, phone, etc that CC used, including those his employer provided access to.

I think we pretty much all agreed on that when we heard about it.....just SOP for LE!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

If blackmail is just BS then why dd LE go and seize electronic surveillance equipment from his employer? Tell me.

If Coleman was the murderer (and I believe he is), why would he scrawl messages in his house, alluding to an enemy? Why would he act like someone is threatening him unless he did so to further his plan to place suspicion away from himself?

He is dumb, right? Why is Chris Coleman running around free when strangling of victims would leave DNA evidence that is enough to convict right now?

Everybody "knows" that CC strangled his wife and kids, right? Open and shut. Why then is LE wasting time?

I'd like to know your view.

Where does it state surveillance equipment?

Police seized electronic equipment connected to Christopher Coleman's former security job, but Walker said would not describe what it was or how it had been used.

http://www.bnd.com/homepage/story/769618.html

It could have been a cell phone, a radio, a computer, a printer, or various other items which you would consider to be "electronic equipment". Now, reasons why LE could have seized one or all of the above:

1) He could have alluded to his plan to commit or cover the murder when texting, emailing, or communicating with Miss Motive (mistress).
2) The so-called threats could have been made up and printed on JMM's computer and printer. They would need it for evidence.
3) JMM wanted their equipment back because he had resigned.
4) He was using their equipment illegally for his own business venture.

To answer your next question, I don't think many doubt he was trying to stage the scene to point at someone else. It goes along with the threats.

The SA's Office is being overly cautious since MCS declared they felt they had enough evidence to arrest him the day they handed the case over. The reason they tailed him was to make the arrest as soon as they had the warrant in place. The SA's Office, imo, did not want to rely on the preliminary results and are going to wait on the final results of forensic testing. They did not want to be locked into the speedy trial situation by an arrest.

LE hasn't wasted time at all. MCS did an outstanding job putting this case together in two weeks. Bravo!

 

[panthera]

ITA, I would expect LE to at least confiscate any computer, phone, etc that CC used, including those his employer provided access to.

Exactly! It wouldn't be too surprising either if the "threat letters" originated from the work computer. MOO

 

[fran]

not sure how insinuating blackmail could make CC look less guilty of murder...and if he wasn't and he was doing surveillance on behalf of JM or JMM because she/they were being blackmailed, why target his wife & kids?

still doesn't make sense to me.

LOL, of course it doesn't make sense to you because you have a part in your brain that uses logic.

See, I know you know this, but I'll say it anyway, LOL......these guys all think their smarter than the average human..........LE officer, .........Prosecutor,......and even Websleuther....

They should have watched these pages for a few years, of case after case after case and on and on and see that,............they FOOL NO ONE,........they may have been able to lie to their now deceased wife, their parents who think they can do no wrong, and their friends that only see them once or twice a year,.....................

But we know..................we're not fooled by their game face,...............we see the darkness behind that gaze...........

Unfortunately, this case as in so many, the darkness of his gaze wasn't apparent until AFTER he'd acted on his plan.

JMHO
fran

 

[kiki the parrot]

Wow! I really wonder what the relationship was between the couple and the in-laws. I had heard that LE requested that her family NOT speak to the media and they are honoring that as far as I can tell (smart move if you ask me). It seems to me that each attempt Sheri's family makes to get "close" is thwarted by CC. This is NOT the time IMO to be playing this out for others to see. You would think he would be more cooperative.

Not to mention compassionate...

So everyone agreed they know my personal life and what I have lived through?! I don't think so.

What financial facts do we have? The house and cars were in his name? She signed the house over as far as we know, but we have only speculation about her reason to do so. Was she allowed to go shopping? Was she allowed to have her own credit cards and bank account?

Sheri was a trained soldier and even tho her scum of a husband cheated on her, I am not sure she was the type to allow him to walk all over her. It could be why she was murdered. Just sayin...

Maybe you are missing MY point.

That is not what I said or meant at all SS no need to take offense. I simply said others (not "everyone") here had expressed the same belief--that it takes living through this nightmare to comprehend how insular and closeted it often is yet right under the noses of the community and church. And that some here including myself feel there is enough knowledge of who held the financial reigns to raise some questions or warrant a discussion, that's all. But evidently there are others (WhoKnew, TexasMist, OLife, WaltzingMatilda, AfterSunset etc) whose similar experiences have raised the same concerns.

arrot:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

He should have gone straight to plan B...because plan A didn't work at all for him. :bang:

 

[Carrington]

He should have gone straight to plan B...because plan A didn't work at all for him. :bang:

Enough plot holes to drive a truck through.
IMO

 

[fran]

I don't see an 'ignore' button, chestergal...maybe someone else knows how to do it.

At the top of the page is a button "CP" *click*

On the left hand side will be options or whatever. Look down and there is an "ignore list" button, *click*

Add name you want to 'ignore'

Hope that helps,
fran

 

[Texas Mist]

He should have gone straight to plan B...because plan A didn't work at all for him. :bang:

Surely CC knows that he would come under immediate suspicion as he's the last person to see his family alive.

I will never ever understand how these murdering spouses think they can plan to get around that!

Especially in this day & age with cameras so prevalent!

Do you think he was thinking he could raise enough doubt in a jury's mind to be acquitted? What a risk -- who wants to go thru a trial anyway!!?? And look - he's lost his job and trial will most likely cause him to be so broke he'll never climb out of debt.

It's soooo hard to believe that he'd even consider that LE would just gloss over him & never seriously consider him as the evil doer!!

If so, he's sociopathic to the nth degree!!