Shiloh Jolie Pitt is a BLOB???

[luvbeaches]

Of course though I think she's an excellent actress, beautiful except those freaky blubber lips and passionate about what she does outside the entertainment world, she's always rubbed me the wrong way. Some people just make me "hinky" and she's one of them.

That's how I feel...there's something "hinky" about her. I don't care for her. Never have. And now that she's parading the "adopted" kids around, and not Shiloh, I just question why is she doing that? Is she trying to get a message across to everyone at the expense of those children? She certainly doesn't feel the need to have Shiloh photographed daily...like the other two.

I just don't care for the woman. And I think it's interesting that one of the reasons she didn't speak with her father was because he left her mom for another woman. Just like Brad did to Jennifer. I suppose that's somehow different in her world.

 

[southcitymom]

.......I still think her dad is right and she has a loose screw.....

My sister has always said that when you look into AJ's eyes you can just see the crazy! That always makes me chuckle.

I like what I know about her. I think she's honest. I think she's a good mother and trying to do good things with her life.

 

[concernedperson]

That's how I feel...there's something "hinky" about her. I don't care for her. Never have. And now that she's parading the "adopted" kids around, and not Shiloh, I just question why is she doing that? Is she trying to get a message across to everyone at the expense of those children? She certainly doesn't feel the need to have Shiloh photographed daily...like the other two.

I just don't care for the woman. And I think it's interesting that one of the reasons she didn't speak with her father was because he left her mom for another woman. Just like Brad did to Jennifer. I suppose that's somehow different in her world.

I am just with you on this.Never have cared for her...tried to like her with the adoptions but it didn't ring sincere. Now with this blunder about her biological child...I just wonder.

Won't marry Pitt so that seems like she wants a baby making machine not a loving relationship. He may have been taken on the Angelina ride. Too much about her with emphasis on who she has allowed to be priviledged.

 

[luvbeaches]

My sister has always says that when you look into AJ's eyes you can just see the crazy! That always makes me chuckle.

I like what I know about her. I think she's honest. I think she's a good mother and trying to do good things with her life.

She is trying to do good things with her life. I just question some of the things she says and does...but she'd probably do the same with me. lol

I just think it's ironic that her man left his wife for her, and that's one of the reasons there was tension within her own family (with her dad). But she says that there was nothing between them prior to him leaving Jen...so who knows.

lol...your sister is right!!

 

[luvbeaches]

I am just with you on this.Never have cared for her...tried to like her with the adoptions but it didn't ring sincere. Now with this blunder about her biological child...I just wonder.

Won't marry Pitt so that seems like she wants a baby making machine not a loving relationship. He may have been taken on the Angelina ride. Too much about her with emphasis on who she has allowed to be priviledged.

It does seem like all she wants a baby making machine. I know it's not accurate, but to me, Brad really doesn't look happy. He looks like he's figured out that he's been bamboozled, and gave up a lot for AJ. When the time comes, AJ will kick him to the curb, and off she'll go with her babies.

And the deal with Madonna? It's almost as if AJ doesn't want to share the limelight (concerning adopting these children) with anyone else.

 

[txsvicki]

I think she has a little hang-up though - i.e. the privileged vs. underprivileged thing. She may overcompensate with the adopted ones. What she said makes it almost seem like she can't quite feel the same about Shiloh because of what the others went through - what they were born into. She wants to rescue many, many children, which is noble, but her biological kids will need the same level of devotion and compassion as the adoted ones. Not Shiloh's choice to be born to millionaire celebs and be dubbed "privileged." Not to mention that most "blobs"/babies don't know it's a silver spoon...yet.

Eve

Angelina did say in the article that she didn't feel for the new baby as much as she does the others. How she can actually see her own child as needing less feeling because she is not in a third world country is beyond me. I think there must be some mental issues. Angelina was talking mostly about how she feels and all about herself more than how the children actually felt or now feel, and no word about how Brad feels I guess. You can't get much plainer about Angelina's feelings that her own words:


" I think I feel so much more for Madd and Zee because they're survivors, they came through so much," Jolie says in the new issue of U.K. Elle.

"Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born. I have less inclination to feel for her...I met my other kids when they were 6 months old, they came with a personality. A newborn really is this...Yes, a blob! But now she's starting to have a personality...I'm conscious that I have to make sure I don't ignore her needs, just because I think the others are more vulnerable."

 

[jilly]

It doesn't sound like she's got much maternal instinct, if you ask me. That's something that a lot of men would say because many of them don't start relating to a child until it gets more of a personality.

On the otherhand I've seen a few families who adopt children and they go overboard trying to make those children feel special. It's sad because (from what I've seen) the biological child suffers.

 

[Saffron]

I'm not interested in celebrities at all anymore, but after reading this thread I began remembering how AJ used to behave and things she said. She once attended the Academy Awards with her brother and she inappropriately kissed him twice, with lingering "making out" kind of kissing, and it was very uncomfortable to watch. When she won her award she talked about how "in love" with her brother she was. After she married Billy Bob Thornton, they regularly made out in front of the cameras (again, uncomfortable to watch, but at least he wasn't her brother), and they both alluded to having just had sex in the limo before attending the Oscars. She once told an interviewer, seriously, that their sex life was so intense that they were afraid they might kill each other by strangulation. She also said that when Billy had to be away from her one night, she had herself committed to a mental institution because she couldn't stand being without him for even one night. She also used to talk about loving to play with knives. My impression of her back then was that she was starving for attention. It sounds like she's changed a lot since then...

Her perception of her biological daughter having privilege compared to her adopted children confuses me. AJ used to talk about her struggles with heroin addiction and cutting herself, so obviously her own life of "privilege" didn't mean happiness and an easy road for her, for whatever reason.

 

[jilly]

I'm not interested in celebrities at all anymore, but after reading this thread I began remembering how AJ acted and things she said around the time of the 1999 (I think) Academy Awards when attended with her brother. She inappropriately kissed her brother twice, with lingering "making out" kind of kissing, and it was very uncomfortable to watch. After she married Billy Bob Thornton, I remember them making out in front of the cameras (again, uncomfortable to watch, but at least he wasn't her brother), and they both alluded to having just had sex in the limo before attending the Oscars. She once told an interviewer, seriously, that their sex life was so intense that they were afraid they might kill each other by strangulation. She also said that when Billy had to be away from her one night, she had herself committed to a mental institution because she couldn't stand being without him for even one night. She also used to talk about loving to play with knives. My impression of her back then was that she was starving for attention. It sounds like she's changed a lot since then...

Her perception of her biological daughter having privilege compared to her adopted children confuses me. AJ used to talk about her struggles with heroin addiction and cutting herself, so obviously her own life of "privilege" didn't mean happiness and an easy road for her, for whatever reason.

Very interesting post Saffron!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I've never liked her much either. Always thought she was weird, beginning with the time years ago when she was reportedly French kissing her half brother at some awards show.

She is a beautiful woman, but she needs to stop "sharing" so much during her interviews!

 

[Bobbisangel]

*shrug* I understand where she is coming from. Most newborns look the same to me. I can also understand a few of her other comments:

"Shiloh was more priveleged from birth"- People acted like it was the second coming when that baby was born. It's the child of Jolie and Pitt, considered the most attractive people in the world. (I know, not everyone thinks that about them, but a lot of people do.) The pictures of Shiloh sold for a couple million for crying out loud.

I think the above is the same reason that you don't see Shiloh out in public very much. The media frenzy over that baby is just insane. Mad and Z, as I've seen her refer to them... not so much. The paparazzi are crazy enough as it is too, so I can understand her need to keep Shiloh away from it a little bit. (The paps don't seem to be nearly as numerous when it's just her and Mad/Z.)

As far as "less inclination to feel for Shiloh" and "being nicer to the other two because they're vulnerable"... well, I can only imagine with Mad being school-age that he's been teased here and there. Hell, Shar Jackson who has two kids with Britney's ex, Kevin Federline, said her children were teased in school and asked, "Why did your daddy leave your mom for Britney Spears?" Who knows what other kids have said to them, especially because they don't look just like Mom and Dad. Kids can be cruel... I can imagine Mad and Z can see it too when the entire family goes out in public and the paparazzi swarm to get pictures of Shiloh... but not so much Mad and Z. Less inclination... well, again, I can understand. As others have said, it's got to be a challenge to have older adopted children and a younger biological child. While her comments might be weird for a mother... I think it's a whole different ballgame when you're talking about a celebrity couple like Pitt and Jolie.

I think that you are right in everything that you said. I'm sure that in time the papers will be saying "the adopted children of Jolie and Pitt" like they always do to seperate the adopted from the "real" children! The media never lets adopted children forget that they aren't the "real" children of so and so. It really burns me. I really wish they would knock it off.

 

[eve]

Angelina did say in the article that she didn't feel for the new baby as much as she does the others. How she can actually see her own child as needing less feeling because she is not in a third world country is beyond me. I think there must be some mental issues. Angelina was talking mostly about how she feels and all about herself more than how the children actually felt or now feel, and no word about how Brad feels I guess. You can't get much plainer about Angelina's feelings that her own words:


" I think I feel so much more for Madd and Zee because they're survivors, they came through so much," Jolie says in the new issue of U.K. Elle.

"Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born. I have less inclination to feel for her...I met my other kids when they were 6 months old, they came with a personality. A newborn really is this...Yes, a blob! But now she's starting to have a personality...I'm conscious that I have to make sure I don't ignore her needs, just because I think the others are more vulnerable."

She's got parenting all mixed up with world politics, philanthropy and making a statement, if you ask me. I have always felt altruistic work is most meaningful if one embarks upon it without seeking publicity. Not as admirable when you're on the front page all the time. People still benefit but the motives seem less pure to me. She may love the children of the world but she seems to have some issues, imo.

I can't imagine having to remind myself to pay attention to my new daughter's needs. Who is more vulnerable than a baby? Do we really believe Shiloh has any awareness of class or privilege? Hell, she's just an infant, but Angie has "less inclination to feel for her..."

HUH? :doh: I wonder what Brad thinks of that?

Eve

 

[michelle]

My sister has always said that when you look into AJ's eyes you can just see the crazy! That always makes me chuckle.
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That is funny. I think its true. She has however really seemed to of changed. I think its good all she does, even if her wording is off a bit. JMO

 

[Ticamom]

She's got parenting all mixed up with world politics, philanthropy and making a statement, if you ask me. I have always felt altruistic work is most meaningful if one embarks upon it without seeking publicity. Not as admirable when you're on the front page all the time. People still benefit but the motives seem less pure to me. She may love the children of the world but she seems to have some issues, imo.

I can't imagine having to remind myself to pay attention to my new daughter's needs. Who is more vulnerable than a baby? Do we really believe Shiloh has any awareness of class or privilege? Hell, she's just an infant, but Angie has "less inclination to feel for her..."

HUH? :doh: I wonder what Brad thinks of that?

Eve

They were both here in Costa Rica over the holidays, and their pictures were in all the papers, etc. They arrived with two nannies and a private chef for their children and checked into the ultra expensive Four Seasons beach Resort. They said they wanted to spend the holidays here and relax with their babies.Also they came to visit Colombian refugees that are trying to make a living here. What surprised me was that they went everywhere and were photographed doing all sorts of philantropic visits etc without the children. And as if that wasn't enough, Brangelina went to spend several days in Panama, again without the children. I know that her work is important to her, but is it really fair to the children to be dumped on the nannies so much ? I mean, it was the week between Christmas and New Years and those babies needed their parents !

Something that caught my attention was that in all the pictures, Brad had a permanent little smile on his lips and he looked as if he was her lapdog. He just sat there next to her or walked next to her but seemed not to offer anything on his own. I don't know how long this will last.

In Panama, someone asked him on the street if he was really Brad Pitt and he answered " Sometimes " with a tiny grin. It must be tough being Mr. Jolie.

 

[michelle]

They were both here in Costa Rica over the holidays, and their pictures were in all the papers, etc. They arrived with two nannies and a private chef for their children and checked into the ultra expensive Four Seasons beach Resort. They said they wanted to spend the holidays here and relax with their babies.Also they came to visit Colombian refugees that are trying to make a living here. What surprised me was that they went everywhere and were photographed doing all sorts of philantropic visits etc without the children. And as if that wasn't enough, Brangelina went to spend several days in Panama, again without the children. I know that her work is important to her, but is it really fair to the children to be dumped on the nannies so much ? I mean, it was the week between Christmas and New Years and those babies needed their parents !

Something that caught my attention was that in all the pictures, Brad had a permanent little smile on his lips and he looked as if he was her lapdog. He just sat there next to her or walked next to her but seemed not to offer anything on his own. I don't know how long this will last.

In Panama, someone asked him on the street if he was really Brad Pitt and he answered " Sometimes " with a tiny grin. It must be tough being Mr. Jolie.

LOL, That sucks!

 

[eve]

They were both here in Costa Rica over the holidays, and their pictures were in all the papers, etc. They arrived with two nannies and a private chef for their children and checked into the ultra expensive Four Seasons beach Resort. They said they wanted to spend the holidays here and relax with their babies.Also they came to visit Colombian refugees that are trying to make a living here. What surprised me was that they went everywhere and were photographed doing all sorts of philantropic visits etc without the children. And as if that wasn't enough, Brangelina went to spend several days in Panama, again without the children. I know that her work is important to her, but is it really fair to the children to be dumped on the nannies so much ? I mean, it was the week between Christmas and New Years and those babies needed their parents !

SNIP

Well, that's just it - hard to find time for your own when you're "loving" all the others around the world. Also, me still thinks she has a major case of the guilts - she talks about her adopted kids' difficult underprivileged backgrounds and how she is less inclined to feel for Shiloh because of it but they have nannies, a private chef and 5-star treatment everywhere they go.

It's hard for me to take these celebs' views on things without a grain of salt. They don't live in the same world that we do. I am glad they give to others but I wish they believed the old adage charity begins at home. I wish they would spend more time at home (with their babies and helping those in the U.S., where they made their fortunes) but that's just me.

It's such a picture - Angie carrying around her huge Gucci bag as she talks to the children in Cambodia or Columbia.

Why don't stars seem to do more in the U.S., anyway?

Eve

 

[pedinurse]

I remember reading an article after she adopted maddox where she said she never wanted to acutally have her own children - she wanted to adopt children from forgien countries. I think that this baby was an oops baby... or that brad was really pushing for it.
i wonder what that big tat on her back looks like now? i bet she got it when she didn't think she'd be having kids!

 

[pedinurse]

Come on! I can tell that infants have different personalities from the get go - but I work with children. But I have had two children, and they completely different personalities from the beginning!

Flame me if you must, but I feel like it's a great description of a newborn. They are a blob. That doesn't mean you don't love them and care for them, but it accurately describes them in my humble opinion.

I liked her honesty in the rest of what I read. Parents relate to different children differently. She's just brave enough to say it in public.

 

[newtv]

Its possible that most of us have no clue what it is like to be in a 3rd world country filled with sick, dying children..she has a right to express there was a different need level and urgency about the adopted children then the "privileged" one..and she is privileged. She was born into privilege not rescued from the worst form of poverty imaginable.

I think people forget that AJ doesnt think about what anyone else will think-she tells her truth. If thats her truth then so be it.
It doesnt mean shiloh is less to her- but it might mean she knows Shiloh is never going to suffer what these other 2 already have.
It is possible she likes to help or rescue the needy and that there is noone to rescue in Shiloh-she was born rescued.

I doubt that AJ loves Shiloh less but relates to her differently..most honest parents will say they love all their children the same but relate to them differently.
i can give the following example of how it happens in non adoptive familes..usually if a kid is born premature or struggles to survive and the parents have to really hope for and look out for the child so they survive, there is a different bond always..and the premature child is often cared for differently their whole life because someohow they faught harder to survive.

Same thing if their is a sick child who takes up all the time-its a reality the others suffer to a point..but they are not suffering the way the sick child is - not ever. A fight for a life does make us bond differently- think about how bonded we all felt to little jessica who fell into the well at a young age-or whatever it was she was stuck in?

Shiloh could have a lot worse going for her than a mother who understands her privilege and the differences between her beginning and the other childrens beginning.

People are not perfect-and she is just one more flawed person who could have chosen better words but it doesnt mean she doesnt love her daughter.

I think its also fair to say that you will mirror the relationship u had with your own mother as a mother..she was mothered properly and loves her own mother..hence I am sure she will love shiloh as she was loved.

We tend to try and do things differently when we were treated badly by our own mothers..but if we had the love we deserved we give it back in the form of our own mothering of children.

As for those who feel sorry for brad..or project he is unhappy..thats a stretch.
For Gods sake-he is a father and husband not a God..she doesnt treat him any differently than many of us treat our spouses.

I think its good for his character to be taking a back seat if in fact he is. He likely hasnt had that experience for a very long time.
Its brads choice to be where he is..he is rich enough and powerful enough to leave if he is unhappy.

He is known for taking on the identities of the women he is with..so I wouldnt lose any sleep worrying about Brad or Brads future.

 

[southcitymom]

Come on! I can tell that infants have different personalities from the get go - but I work with children. But I have had two children, and they completely different personalities from the beginning!

I stand strongly by my original opinion - an opinion only - I don't find "blob" to be a pejorative, derogatory, etc... term to describe a newborn, but I do find it to be an accurate one.