Should Cindy and George be charged? Do They Need An Attorney?

[LinasK]

----Providing assistance to a family member after the commission of a crime----

Florida’s statutory exemption for family members: It forbids prosecution of spouses, parents, grandparents, children, or grandchildren for helping an “offender avoid or escape detection, arrest or punishment,” with one important exception. The exemption does not apply if the primary offender is alleged to have committed child abuse or neglect or the murder of a child under the age of 18, “unless the court finds the person [claiming the exemption] is a victim of domestic violence.”


http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/in...String=&URL=Ch0777/Sec03.htm&StatuteYear=2004

It's an exception in the law for a reason...so I ask, what good is it if it isn't upheld? waste, huge waste is what it would be!

IMO, sounds like Florida needs to change their law and get rid of this statutory exemption altogether, then you don't need exceptions, all family members who aid and abet/obstruct justice/tamper with witnesses would be prosecuted!

 

[nomoresorrow]

I'm also STILL curious what CA meant by "THEY" in her 911 call;
(bolded by me)

“I found out my granddaughter has been taken, she has been missing for a month. Her mother finally admitted that she's been missing,” Cindy Anthony said on that second call. “Oh, my God, they finally admitted that the baby sitter stole her. I need to find her.”

I've asked this once before around the time that the 911 calls were initially released but I didn't (or couldn't) find any replies, still wondering,....

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

I'm also STILL curious what CA meant by "THEY" in her 911 call;
(bolded by me)

“I found out my granddaughter has been taken, she has been missing for a month. Her mother finally admitted that she's been missing,” Cindy Anthony said on that second call. “Oh, my God, they finally admitted that the baby sitter stole her. I need to find her.”

I've asked this once before around the time that the 911 calls were initially released but I didn't (or couldn't) find any replies, still wondering,....

Wow...I don't remember hearing that. Verrrry interesting.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

IMO, sounds like Florida needs to change their law and get rid of this statutory exemption altogether, then you don't need exceptions, all family members who aid and abet/obstruct justice/tamper with witnesses would be prosecuted!

I've never heard of anything like that! What a crazy general sort of law to have, with such a limited exception. Parents can clean up after kids do drug deals, can hide stolen property, provide false alibis etc. Nutty.

 

[cyberborg]

I wonder if KC is getting anxious, both on what LE have but also her parents request for immunity and 'willingness' to cooperate.

I am sure that signals have been sent on the families current state / reaction and JB has probably explained to KC this is standard operating procedure but -- KC has all that time in jail to wonder.

Wonder if her parents or LA are being charged and if so, that she is getting thrown under the bus. Personally I'd be getting paranoid my family is out for themselves.

This could give birth to the theory that JB has KC throw her parents under the bus, as was speculated, since JB can use this situ to turn everyone on each other to the Defense's favor.

KC testifies CA did it and gets freedom and then at CA's trial KC provides evidence she did it. Double jeopardy. Et voila!

 

[TruthSeeker]

Do you think Cindy and or George should be charged??

NO. Unless or Until LE charges Cindy or George or Lee with a crime I will consider them as grieving family that deserves all of our compassion. It is obvious that they loved this child and took wonderful care of her. She was sweet, articulate, well nourished, clean and loving to her family. Like it or not, even those closest to Casey saw any signs of abuse.

I lost a son. One of the best advice I got from another parent who also had lost a child was "do not let ANYONE tell you how to grieve". Grieving is a personal thing and we all come to terms with death in our own terms. It took me two years to completely accept that my son was dead. I even went through thinking that maybe someone else had my son's driver's license in his possession and the body really wasn't my son's. You cling to the last bit of hope until the bitter end! There were a lot of people around Cindy and George encouraging them to hold onto hope and you all know it! Would I have aligned myself with that person(s) who encouraged me to think that? YOU BETCHA!! Blame those people who fostered that belief, not the grieving family, if you must.

I can not imagine what Cindy and George are going through. Not only is Caylee gone, but accepting that THEIR OWN DAUGHTER may have killed her? My heart breaks for them!

I sincerely hope none of you have to come to terms with the death of a child/grandchild (especially one that you lived with). I would not wish that on my worst enemy. You may look like you are functioning on the outside and think you are doing OK, but just ask a friend or co-worker who was close to you and they will tell you that grieving took it's toll in ways that you could hardly believe.

I will forgive the Anthony's a lot if it comes out that they are guilty of some minor things. I just hope, if you love Caylee, you be compassionate toward the people who loved her, wanted her and keep such obviously good care of her all of her short little life.

 

[LinasK]

I wonder if KC is getting anxious, both on what LE have but also her parents request for immunity and 'willingness' to cooperate.

I am sure that signals have been sent on the families current state / reaction and JB has probably explained to KC this is standard operating procedure but -- KC has all that time in jail to wonder.

Wonder if her parents or LA are being charged and if so, that she is getting thrown under the bus. Personally I'd be getting paranoid my family is out for themselves.

This could give birth to the theory that JB has KC throw her parents under the bus, as was speculated, since JB can use this situ to turn everyone on each other to the Defense's favor.

KC testifies CA did it and gets freedom and then at CA's trial KC provides evidence she did it. Double jeopardy. Et voila!

Okay, what's Cindy's motive to kill the grandchild she supposedly loved???:waitasec:

 

[Nore]

Do you think Cindy and or George should be charged??

NO. Unless or Until LE charges Cindy or George or Lee with a crime I will consider them as grieving family that deserves all of our compassion. It is obvious that they loved this child and took wonderful care of her. She was sweet, articulate, well nourished, clean and loving to her family. Like it or not, even those closest to Casey saw any signs of abuse.

I lost a son. One of the best advice I got from another parent who also had lost a child was "do not let ANYONE tell you how to grieve". Grieving is a personal thing and we all come to terms with death in our own terms. It took me two years to completely accept that my son was dead. I even went through thinking that maybe someone else had my son's driver's license in his possession and the body really wasn't my son's. You cling to the last bit of hope until the bitter end! There were a lot of people around Cindy and George encouraging them to hold onto hope and you all know it! Would I have aligned myself with that person(s) who encouraged me to think that? YOU BETCHA!! Blame those people who fostered that belief, not the grieving family, if you must.

I can not imagine what Cindy and George are going through. Not only is Caylee gone, but accepting that THEIR OWN DAUGHTER may have killed her? My heart breaks for them!

I sincerely hope none of you have to come to terms with the death of a child/grandchild (especially one that you lived with). I would not wish that on my worst enemy. You may look like you are functioning on the outside and think you are doing OK, but just ask a friend or co-worker who was close to you and they will tell you that grieving took it's toll in ways that you could hardly believe.

I will forgive the Anthony's a lot if it comes out that they are guilty of some minor things. I just hope, if you love Caylee, you be compassionate toward the people who loved her, wanted her and keep such obviously good care of her all of her short little life.

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Hi, that parent gave you the best info on Earth.My feelings go out to you,may you really learn to cope.It is hard. I have but I still cant accept the fact God left it happen twice.I do feel sorry for the g.parents as to their life is over.Even with Lee's new baby they will never be the same.

 

[nomoresorrow]

(snipped by me)
Truthseeker;
I just hope, if you love Caylee, you be compassionate toward the people who loved her, wanted her and keep such obviously good care of her all of her short little life.

If you love Caylee? Please, your entitled to have whatever opinion you like of G, C & LA but don't imply that those who "love Cayle" would also share in your opinion.

 

[Kat]

What defines O of J by FL statute please? What defines accessory after the fact by FL statute please? I have to go to bed now, but I will check back in the AM to see if anyone found the answers, I really would like to know what the laws say before I cast my vote. TIA.

 

[cyberborg]

Okay, what's Cindy's motive to kill the grandchild she supposedly loved???:waitasec:

I'd doubt the Defense would specify CA killed/murdered but simply leverage a confrontation between CA and KC with Caylee trying to stop them and gets hurt. KC takes off. The Nanny was CA. KC never sees Caylee. KC thought CA was witholding Caylee from her, out of spite so said she was kidnapped to cover with up for CA with LE. KC was too scared of CA to say anything but now knows that Caylee had died. KC needs protection.

Just a Defense theory. I personally think the Defense is stuck between a rock and a hard place. KC and only KC.

 

[nomoresorrow]

What defines O of J by FL statute please? What defines accessory after the fact by FL statute please? I have to go to bed now, but I will check back in the AM to see if anyone found the answers, I really would like to know what the laws say before I cast my vote. TIA.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0843/titl0843.htm&StatuteYear=2008&Title=%2D%3E2008%2D%3EChapter%20843

 

[Leila]

Their attorney is the one who requested immunity, and it is standard procedure for defense attornies to do this, according to Greta.
As for charging them with OJ or tampering, that is up to LE... but I heard some TH's say that they have to prove intent, and that might be hard to do. If their attorney is good enough, he can explain every one of these allegations.
IMO, I don't know that the OCSO has that much interest in charging them right now. When asked by various reporters, their answer so far has been, "not at this time" or something similar. So thinking logically, if the Anthonys have actually commited such serious crimes... why are the LE sitting and waiting? What is the purpose of holding off?
Since Sheriff Beary is retiring soon... wouldn't you think he would want to wrap this case up and tie it with a pretty bow? I can't see him leaving loose ends for the next guy to deal with, but that's just me.

I think from a legal perspective, it's in the prosecution's best interests to NOT charge the Anthonys with anything until after the trial is over. If charged now, at the time of the trial they could plead the 5th Amendment. Going into the trial without any charges against them, anything that George and Cindy testify to on the witness stand can't be used against them at a later date, unless they commit perjury.

There's a lot of legal issues, and I'm not an attorney, but this is what I've heard several talking heads say.

 

[sunflowerchick]

I voted unsure. I have been lurking since this whole thing started, but just can't take it anymore and need to post. I am torn between my anger when I hear some of the things that have gone on with the A's. and my feelings for them when I see their grief. I also keep thinking that none of us know how we would respond because we have never been in their position, but then I also think that may just be an excuse.

 

[LindaFaye]

If they were tampering with evidence and covering up
for Casey I think they should be charged but after trail.

 

[Kat]

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0843/titl0843.htm&StatuteYear=2008&Title=%2D%3E2008%2D%3EChapter%20843

Thank you nomoresorrow. In fact, I had forgotten I had bookmarked that webpage of statutes because you had given it to me before. I'm sorry.

Looking at the O of J statute in FL, I can't determine how it could be said that the A's could be charged with that offense. I ticked off each sub category and I don't see it. Maybe someone else can have a look see and help me.

Did a search for accessory after the fact, wouldn't the SA have to show that the A's had knowledge of the crime and had intent? I'm not excusing their behavior, just trying to understand if the actions they took can be seen as illegal?

 

[scrabble]

Here is an interesting link for emails between Cindy Anthony and her Mom and her Brother, Rick.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/13.pdf

 

[Everly]

I think from a legal perspective, it's in the prosecution's best interests to NOT charge the Anthonys with anything until after the trial is over. If charged now, at the time of the trial they could plead the 5th Amendment. Going into the trial without any charges against them, anything that George and Cindy testify to on the witness stand can't be used against them at a later date, unless they commit perjury.

There's a lot of legal issues, and I'm not an attorney, but this is what I've heard several talking heads say.

The prosecution also tends to avoid charging parents of the accused because they don't want to foster sympathy on the jury. The prosecution doesn't want to give the appearance of having a vendetta on the whole family.

IF they do indeed have anything on the Anthonys worthy of charges, then I hope they do wait until after Casey's trial. That is unless it is something so egregious that it just screams out for prosecution in and of itself. Or if it something will help convict Casey.

 

[Jay D]

There have been many posters here that have stated that they would surely want to be a juror in KC's trial. Not me! Not for a minute.
But if the Anthonys are charged and there is a trial, well, I'd sure like to be there. Their actions have baffled and mesmorized me from the beginning. I first became interested in this case July 21 when Cindy was interviewed by Meagyn Kelly. Cindy actually hung up on Kelly during the interview.
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index....ralObject=2503541&referralPlaylistId=playlist
That caught my attention in a way that no other missing person story ever has. I have been intrigued (obsessed? LOL) by the family dynamics and subsequent outrageous behavior since.
I guess I was inspired this morning to revisit this thread due to BC's (Anthony attorney) latest press release.
To me this video is a good "refresher", in that it helps me see the evolution of the changing stories from July 21. I do think that the Anthonys should be charged, and if they are, I would be just as riveted to that trial as many will be to KC's trial.

 

[Pink Panther]

There have been many posters here that have stated that they would surely want to be a juror in KC's trial. Not me! Not for a minute.
But if the Anthonys are charged and there is a trial, well, I'd sure like to be there. Their actions have baffled and mesmorized me from the beginning. I first became interested in this case July 21 when Cindy was interviewed by Meagyn Kelly. Cindy actually hung up on Kelly during the interview.
http://www.foxnews.com/video/index....ralObject=2503541&referralPlaylistId=playlist
That caught my attention in a way that no other missing person story ever has. I have been intrigued (obsessed? LOL) by the family dynamics and subsequent outrageous behavior since.
I guess I was inspired this morning to revisit this thread due to BC's (Anthony attorney) latest press release.
To me this video is a good "refresher", in that it helps me see the evolution of the changing stories from July 21. I do think that the Anthonys should be charged, and if they are, I would be just as riveted to that trial as many will be to KC's trial.

O M G!!! I have seen a lot of videos in this case and have been following since July as well but I had never seen that video! Thanks so much for posting it Jay D...It really IS telling, especially in light of everything we know now!