Should Jaycee's Bio Dad Be Allowed to Have a DNA Testing Done?

[JBean]

what is his objective? if he establishes paternity in court he'd be liable to pay back child support from birth to 11 years old........maybe if he starts paying her instead of demanding things from her i'd take a diffrent view of him.

Maybe that's what he is going to do, I just don't think we know yet.
I have no position on this issue yet because I do not know what he can or cannot do and what his motivation is.

if we were to find out that he wanted to make things right, help the girls financially as much as possible ,try to right his wrongs and let them set the pace,then more power to him.

if he is forcing an unwanted relationship on these girls then he is self centered and will hopefully be shut down in a big way.

So the facts of this situation will strongly influence my take on this topic.

 

[Openmind]

Can you link to where Glo or Slayton say they will force a paternity test and then force a relationship on Jayee and her daughters please? I am just trying understand if the actual facts are being discussed here. I am only questioning our understanding of events.

Only my opinion, and it is a matter of perception, but taking this first to the press without first attempting to privately contact Jaycee's representatives about his parental rights, is a form of pressure. I think he knew the response would be to buzz off so he went to the public with his appeal.

Since he has never exercised any legal claim nor publicly acknowledged Jaycee as his child, I can't see were he has the right to ask for anything. And that includes the grandchildren. I hate to think of his weepy reunion and the explanation of how he never in 28 years made any attempt to know Jaycee or helped look for her to suddenly now be overwhelmed with parental love. They don't need his baggage at this time, if ever.

 

[kbl8201]

Only my opinion, and it is a matter of perception, but taking this first to the press without first attempting to privately contact Jaycee's representatives about his parental rights, is a form of pressure. I think he knew the response would be to buzz off so he went to the public with his appeal.

Since he has never exercised any legal claim nor publicly acknowledged Jaycee as his child, I can't see were he has the right to ask for anything. And that includes the grandchildren. I hate to think of his weepy reunion and the explanation of how he never in 28 years made any attempt to know Jaycee or helped look for her to suddenly now be overwhelmed with parental love. They don't need his baggage at this time, if ever.

the part about not helping look for her is intriguing. i mean........before august 26/27th this year did he even wonder if she was still alive? his daughters (jaycee's half sisters) from there interview seem to have been told she was dead. granted 18 years is a long time to keep hope (even carl has admitted he was thinking of recovery rather then rescue) but did he care at the time she dissappeared? 15 years ago? 10? 5?

 

[JBean]

the part about not helping look for her is intriguing. i mean........before august 26/27th this year did he even wonder if she was still alive? his daughters (jaycee's half sisters) from there interview seem to have been told she was dead. granted 18 years is a long time to keep hope (even carl has admitted he was thinking of recovery rather then rescue) but did he care at the time she dissappeared? 15 years ago? 10? 5?

He said in one interview that he followed that case. Terry named him as the father when Jaycee was kidnapped and did cooperate with authorities at that time.

 

[Tizzle]

what is his objective? if he establishes paternity in court he'd be liable to pay back child support from birth to 11 years old........maybe if he starts paying her instead of demanding things from her i'd take a diffrent view of him.

How can you be so sure he hasn't already made a contribution to Jaycee? I would hope he wouldn't announce it if he has. If he did announce that he had, you'd be mad that he felt the need to announce it. I would be VERY surprised if he hasn't already PRIVATELY sent money. It would actually be foolish of him not to when you really think about it.....

 

[Openmind]

He said in one interview that he followed that case. Terry named him as the father when Jaycee was kidnapped and did cooperate with authorities at that time.

I am sure a lot of people followed the case. We have heard from friends, neighbors, teachers, etc. and many of them actively looked for her. Did he ever do more than just follow the case? The FBI spoke directly to him and if this had been my child, I would have said, I want to keep in touch and be informed -- also, what can I do to help?

 

[JBean]

I am sure a lot of people followed the case. We have heard from friends, neighbors, teachers, etc. and many of them actively looked for her. Did he ever do more than just follow the case? The FBI spoke directly to him and if this had been my child, I would have said, I want to keep in touch and be informed -- also, what can I do to help?

I have no idea which is why I posted what I did. That's all the info I have.

 

[Natal]

Can a DNA test be forced on an adult for paternity if no crime is involved?

I imagine it can in a case like this where grandchildren are involved and the mother has claimed paternity at one point (and she must have, or Slayton wouldnt have been investigated).

 

[Natal]

I am sure a lot of people followed the case. We have heard from friends, neighbors, teachers, etc. and many of them actively looked for her. Did he ever do more than just follow the case? The FBI spoke directly to him and if this had been my child, I would have said, I want to keep in touch and be informed -- also, what can I do to help?

I doubt they would have done that, because he wasn't listed as the father on the birth certificate. They would have investigated and then left. They wouldn't have kept him updated.

 

[Openmind]

How can you be so sure he hasn't already made a contribution to Jaycee? I would hope he wouldn't announce it if he has. If he did announce that he had, you'd be mad that he felt the need to announce it. I would be VERY surprised if he hasn't already PRIVATELY sent money. It would actually be foolish of him not to when you really think about it.....

Tizzle, my biggest objection is he should have done all of this privately, and he should have waited. If he is sincerely this passionate to contact Jaycee, he should have seeked help on when and how. Not sure Allred would have advised him to wait.

The first comments I read from him were more about being angry at Garrido. Just after she was recovered, he was inrerviewed in his front yard. He said Jaycee's eleven year old picture looked just like him at that age. He didn't talk about his long ago promise to be a better dad. So, what a surprise when he popped up last week with Allred crying and wanting a paternity test. Why did he suddenly become so concered about her welfare in three weeks.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...ck-animal-who-took-my-jaycee-115875-21643636/

 

[Openmind]

I doubt they would have done that, because he wasn't listed as the father on the birth certificate. They would have investigated and then left. They wouldn't have kept him updated.

No sure about that. They came to him and I am sure if he had acted concerned they would have spoken with him when he called.

Otherwise, he could have swallowed his pride and contacted Terry.

 

[Tizzle]

Tizzle, my biggest objection is he should have done all of this privately, and he should have waited. If he is sincerely this passionate to contact Jaycee, he should have seeked help on when and how. Not sure Allred would have advised him to wait.

The first comments I read from him were more about being angry at Garrido. Just after she was recovered, he was inrerviewed in his front yard. He said Jaycee's eleven year old picture looked just like him at that age. He didn't talk about his long ago promise to be a better dad. So, what a surprise when he popped up last week with Allred crying and wanting a paternity test. Why did he suddenly become so concered about her welfare in three weeks.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...ck-animal-who-took-my-jaycee-115875-21643636/

Yes, I first saw this article a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know....
Overwhelmed, maybe, about having a camera shoved in his face unexpectedly while he's shirtless, working on his truck in his front yard and didn't have time to think about the perfect thing to say to make people give him a chance? I'm sure that would rattle even the sturdiest of minds. Displaying anger towards the Garridos was his snap reaction to an uncomfortable situation and also could be viewed as an expression of concern about her welfare, possibly? Maybe he is easily rattled and felt it better to seek legal counsel before he became a victim of foot in mouth syndrome? Jaycee is in seclusion and no one knows how to reach her so he retained legal counsel to do legwork? Maybe they didn't feel confident that any such "private" message that you suggest would ever make it to Jaycee so the obvious best alternative is to go public in the hopes that one day Jaycee will get his message?
Maybe? Yes?

 

[Openmind]

Yes, I first saw this article a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know....
Overwhelmed, maybe, about having a camera shoved in his face unexpectedly while he's shirtless, working on his truck in his front yard and didn't have time to think about the perfect thing to say to make people give him a chance? I'm sure that would rattle even the sturdiest of minds. Displaying anger towards the Garridos was his snap reaction to an uncomfortable situation and also could be viewed as an expression of concern about her welfare, possibly? Maybe he is easily rattled and felt it better to seek legal counsel before he became a victim of foot in mouth syndrome? Jaycee is in seclusion and no one knows how to reach her so he retained legal counsel to do legwork? Maybe they didn't feel confident that any such "private" message that you suggest would ever make it to Jaycee so the obvious best alternative is to go public in the hopes that one day Jaycee will get his message?
Maybe? Yes?

Trutuhfully, I had more respect for the guy when he was shooting from the hip.

I have no doubt his message would have made it to Jaycee had he done this privately. Lawyers know how to do these things, and Allred certainly knows her way around. I am sure he was concerned any request for a meeting would be rejected, but I don't think he has improved his chances by going public.

He is a stranger to not only Jaycee and the girls but to everyone else including Terry. He had no connection to any of these people before she was kidnapped and made no contact after she was gone. It is a crowded enough field as it is without a virtual stranger wanting to be treated like family.

 

[Tizzle]

Trutuhfully, I had more respect for the guy when he was shooting from the hip.

I have no doubt his message would have made it to Jaycee had he done this privately. Lawyers know how to do these things, and Allred certainly knows her way around. I am sure he was concerned any request for a meeting would be rejected, but I don't think he has improved his chances by going public.

He is a stranger to not only Jaycee and the girls but to everyone else including Terry. He had no connection to any of these people before she was kidnapped and made no contact after she was gone. It is a crowded enough field as it is without a virtual stranger wanting to be treated like family.

BBM
What is it that makes you so certain any private message to Jaycee from Mr. Slayton wouldn't be intercepted and swept under a rug? Do you know what Terry's opinion of him his? Do you know for certain that she isn't the one that wanted him absent from Jaycee's life and maybe still does? It is entirely possible, no? Just because Glo knows her way around doesn't mean the people surrounding Jaycee don't know how to keep secrets. Maybe he did first try to the private approach but for whatever reason didn't feel confident that the message would meet it's destination. Also possible.

BTW, you state that he was probably afraid he would get rejected by doing it privately. So explain to me how a seemingly rational human being would expect a different result by going public? The scenario that he was afraid of rejection just doesn't make sense, I'm pretty sure that Gloria is intelligent enough to know that a camera won't produce a different result but probably a more adverse one that to begin with. Don't you think?

 

[txsvicki]

I figure there's already dna on file somewhere that was compared to Jaycee's Mom, so the Dad should be able to access it just to make sure. However, I don't think he should have publicly said that he wasn't sure years ago that the baby was his or if the baby was even going to be kept.

 

[Imbackon]

Slayton is free to take a DNA test if he wishes but he cannot force JC to have a test.
Imagine you personally are 29 years old and a former neighbor, anyone really comes along and wants to see if you are their child. Do you really think that legally you could be forced to comply with said request?
Now pretend you are deceased and worth a fortune and leaving no heirs? Think he could do that?
Pretend DNA is proved even serreptiously the courts still would not put a parents name on the certificate belatedly. In other words there would be no point in the test as Mr. Slayton missed the boat by not attempting to exercise his rights the first 18 years of JC's Life or until Jc was adopted by another man. If she had been adopted by Mr. Probyn he only had a limited amount of time to contest that even. He actually didn't even have 18 full years because he had good reason to know it was possible he was her father (not like he met her mom, had a 1 night stand, and never saw or heard from her again in other words).
Biology is not much when the rights to your biological child are not exercised. It is not an endlessly open door and for good reason.

ps. PRETEND A MAN NAMED CHARLES MANSON, TRIED TO FORCE CHILDREN OF HIS FORMER GROUPIES, to take dna, do you think the courts would make you submit? No absolutely not, because as an adult you actually have a right to NOT know who your biological parent is, and that overides any percieved right on the part of ANY possbile biological father. The court is not going to side with Slayton if this became a legal action, no way.

 

[i.b.nora]

Can you link to where Glo or Slayton say they will force a paternity test and then force a relationship on Jayee and her daughters please? I am just trying understand if the actual facts are being discussed here. I am only questioning our understanding of events.

http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_13404645

Jaycee Dugard case: Man who says he is Dugard's father pleads for reunion

By Molly Hennessy-Fiske
Los Angeles Times
Posted: 09/24/2009 12:01:00 AM PDT

"Allred said Slayton wants to get in touch with Dugard or a family representative to arrange a private meeting and a confidential paternity test. If the family does not consent to the test, she said Slayton may take legal action."

 

[Tizzle]

I think Jaycee might want some closure in that area of her life. I think she might want to know so the lingering question that she's probably asked herself many times over the years can finally be answered. "Who is my real daddy?" or something along those lines has possibly entered her train of thought more than once over the last 3 decades. It makes perfect sense that she would want to know. Who wouldn't? Wouldn't you want to know? I would. Why should Jaycee feel any different than most people would? So, I would be surprised if she doesn't respond or hasn't already responded to his message in some form.

 

[Tizzle]

http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_13404645

Jaycee Dugard case: Man who says he is Dugard's father pleads for reunion

By Molly Hennessy-Fiske
Los Angeles Times
Posted: 09/24/2009 12:01:00 AM PDT

"Allred said Slayton wants to get in touch with Dugard or a family representative to arrange a private meeting and a confidential paternity test. If the family does not consent to the test, she said Slayton may take legal action."

When I first read this the other day, it instantly raised my suspicions that Mr. Slayton may have already tried to make contact privately but was met with strong opposition. The quote also says "may take legal action" not "will take legal action". Very different.

 

[JBean]

http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_13404645

Jaycee Dugard case: Man who says he is Dugard's father pleads for reunion

By Molly Hennessy-Fiske
Los Angeles Times
Posted: 09/24/2009 12:01:00 AM PDT

"Allred said Slayton wants to get in touch with Dugard or a family representative to arrange a private meeting and a confidential paternity test. If the family does not consent to the test, she said Slayton may take legal action."

Thanks IBN. I have seen that, but I am not sure what legal action they would take. That's why I am trying to understand if they can force a paternity test and if they can't what legal action are they going to take?