Sidebar Discussion #11

[TotallyObsessed]

To think that GA actually had to decide between standing up for his murdered granddaughter or being a tool for Cindy so she wouldn't pick on him.... makes me puke.

That's all I'm going to say on that. Because we all seem to be heading down that "vacation" path....so I'm out for a bit. This case will be the death of me yet.

 

[IfIMay]

To think that GA actually had to decide between standing up for his murdered granddaughter or being a tool for Cindy so she wouldn't pick on him.... makes me puke.

That's all I'm going to say on that. Because we all seem to be heading down that "vacation" path....so I'm out for a bit. This case will be the death of me yet.

yep. Time to watch the slide into oblivion of the lie rag and put George back in the closet with Jose.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

my bolding.
yes, I really do think Mr Anthony is happy for Mr Ashton. At a time when no one at all is giving him kindness, Mr Ashton has been kind to George Anthony. Even now, when we all say we think Casey's a liar we still won't show any kindness toward Mr Anthony. To be accused of molesting not only his daughter but Caylee as well, it must feel like he's alone in the world. We all say we do not believe he did molest anyone but we act like he deserves to be accused of it anyway since we do not like anything to do with that family. Mr Ashton always treated George Anthony with respect, as if he knew that George was in a unwinnable position. Mr Anthony is probably very happy for the man who was the only one to show him kindness.

:seeya:

1st BBM: Yes, Mr. Ashton has been very kind to George, and IMO, way toooooooooo kind ! JMO, but that's just the kind of person Mr. Ashton is ...

:waitasec: And I sure hope Mr. Ashton is NOT "made a fool of" by the A's ... the A's always have an ulterior motive for themselves ...

JMO and MOO ... but George does NOT deserve to be treated with kindness after what he did -- or should I say did NOT do, and that includes the "31 days", pre-trial, trial and post-trial !

2nd BBM: As to George being in an "unwinnable position" -- he IS a "grown man" and he alone is responsible for his actions ...

:doh: I almost forgot ... he couldn't do anything without checking with the "boss" first :banghead: ... and I do NOT believe that will ever change ...

:moo:

 

[logicalgirl]

I have issues with GA because he didn't stand up for baby Caylee. He knew the truth about what was done to baby Caylee. He's known many truths in regards to FCA. He just wasn't strong enough to stand up for the truth, not even for baby Caylee. I believe Mr. Jeff Ashton shows respecct for everyone, that's just the kind of man he is. Jeff Ashton is a very strong man.

Hmm I don't remember him showing much respect for Jose.....:waitasec:

 

[A_News_Junkie]

So...Oh Hi Jose! :seeya:

Is this going to be the day I give up watching your numbers? Little did I know it would be such a short ride until you hit a sales rank of 20,000. Is it going to be today? A mere six weeks from your release today?:what:

Oh well, oh well!!! :floorlaugh:

Oh Logical -----> You big bad meanie, you made him buy a book to thwart the party!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shhhhhh, nobody say a word for an hour or so! LOL:floorlaugh:

 

[logicalgirl]

The question for me is not whether or not the Anthony's were on a reality show but whether or not we at Websleuths are. I understood our goal was to sleuth and analyse on an ongoing basis.

I find it really quite amazing to read a document today that I read two or three years ago when I was reading from an entirely different emotional viewpoint and see if what I believed then is still true for me today. Sometimes it reads like entirely new material. Unfortunately this isn't helpful if I go in with my belief system about a series of events firmly in place. I use objectivity to see if what I believe today is the same thing I believed yesterday. If I stay stuck in the same belief without learning anything new or different this year and last year-then I know I have stopped my emotional and intellectual growth. And that would mean I was forever stuck in the nightmare of living on the Jerry Springer show.

No thanks. That would be my own he77 on earth.

 

[logicalgirl]

Oh Logical -----> You big bad meanie, you made him buy a book to thwart the party!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shhhhhh, nobody say a word for an hour or so! LOL:floorlaugh:

I know!! I wanted to see if he was up and paying attention. Still waiting for another set of returned books to arrive at Amazon....he can't keep this up forever....I have the time....:floorlaugh:

 

[grammieto5]

Hmm I don't remember him showing much respect for Jose.....:waitasec:

Not much, but I'm thinking more than he wanted to.

 

[iluvmua]

Cindy Anthony is in deep denial.

http://twitter.com/CINDYANTH0NY

 

[grammieto5]

I agree, George Anthony did not do the right thing. He caved to Cindy's pressure. I have no doubt that he knows he let Caylee down and I think he lives with it every day. I have no pity for what he did. I think he lives in hell on Earth. He has Cindy, who I bet uses digs and threats to keep him in line. He has a daughter he knows killed Caylee and he has very few friends . He has to live with himself and he has to wake every day and go to bed every night with the image of Caylee burned into his mind. Of all the Anthonys I really think he was the only one who loved Caylee purely because she was Caylee. Cindy and Casey used Caylee as a tool, a weapon, a pawn. Lee seemed indifferent to her. But George, he loved her and he let her down. And as reward for all of this, he is forever labeled an accused molester. He is in hell and he knows it.

I also believe GA's love for Caylee is pure, I have no doubts about GA not doing any harm to Caylee, other than not standing up for her. I've been thinking maybe with Jeff Ashton and GA being in contact "more than anyone knows", maybe they are planning "something" for JB and all his lies. I think it wouild be great if GA could just shut JB up!!!

 

[grammieto5]

Cindy Anthony is in deep denial.

http://twitter.com/CINDYANTH0NY

Seriously??? All her FANS!!! What a joke!

 

[logicalgirl]

Cindy Anthony is in deep denial.

http://twitter.com/CINDYANTH0NY

According to Blaiss and a few others that is NOT CA but a pretender. Do you have any idea how easy it is to set up a twitter account including a picture in someone else's name. There are lots of folk out there who enjoy jerking your chain. It's always good to be reminded that reading twitter is the same as reading what's written on a public washroom wall....

 

[Marshmallow]

:seeya:

1st BBM: Yes, Mr. Ashton has been very kind to George, and IMO, way toooooooooo kind ! JMO, but that's just the kind of person Mr. Ashton is ...

:waitasec: And I sure hope Mr. Ashton is NOT "made a fool of" by the A's ... the A's always have an ulterior motive for themselves ...

JMO and MOO ... but George does NOT deserve to be treated with kindness after what he did -- or should I say did NOT do, and that includes the "31 days", pre-trial, trial and post-trial !

2nd BBM: As to George being in an "unwinnable position" -- he IS a "grown man" and he alone is responsible for his actions ...

:doh: I almost forgot ... he couldn't do anything without checking with the "boss" first :banghead: ... and I do NOT believe that will ever change ...

:moo:

I completely agree.

 

[grammieto5]

Do you guys remember the movie "War of the Roses" I wonder if GA and CA are living like that in their home??? CA is very upset about GA congratulating Jeff Aston.

 

[grammieto5]

According to Blaiss and a few others that is NOT CA but a pretender.

OOOHHH Boy!! I thought it was her oooppps!

 

[IfIMay]

Do you guys remember the movie "War of the Roses" I wonder if GA and CA are living like that in their home??? CA is very upset about GA congratulating Jeff Aston.

IF they are fighting, it's probably more about how to spend the $600k Dr. Phil gave them. To have a "war of the roses" situation, you have to have 2 strong minded people.

I don't believe that twitter is CA. v8

 

[Ricki]

Cindy Anthony is in deep denial.

http://twitter.com/CINDYANTH0NY

That can't be her...could it. Would she dare to have a public twitter account?
I thought someone here said that was a bogus twitter.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

The question for me is not whether or not the Anthony's were on a reality show but whether or not we at Websleuths are. I understood our goal was to sleuth and analyse on an ongoing basis.

I find it really quite amazing to read a document today that I read two or three years ago when I was reading from an entirely different emotional viewpoint and see if what I believed then is still true for me today. Sometimes it reads like entirely new material. Unfortunately this isn't helpful if I go in with my belief system about a series of events firmly in place. I use objectivity to see if what I believe today is the same thing I believed yesterday. If I stay stuck in the same belief without learning anything new or different this year and last year-then I know I have stopped my emotional and intellectual growth. And that would mean I was forever stuck in the nightmare of living on the Jerry Springer show.

No thanks. That would be my own he77 on earth.

I don't understand - why WS would be on a reality show?

I am not sure if I am reading this right; but it sounds like if people hold the same opinion or worse of GA or CA today, that you feel they have not 'sleuthed and analyzed on an ongoing basis' and thus, have not grown. That their emotional and intellectual growth has stopped.

If that is what you intended to say, I don't think that is fair and it feels like scolding me for not having the 'forgiveness and sympathy' for the parents that you do. Everyone's timetables for forgiveness is different and some can forgive, but not forget or maybe better said, forgive but know better than to trust again.

So - am I miss understanding the intent of your post??

 

[grammieto5]

That can't be her...could it. Would she dare to have a public twitter account?
I thought someone here said that was a bogus twitter.

Well, I think, for me anyway, I'll just stay away from it. CA makes me very angry inside, more than any of the A's! Well, except for FCA!

 

[logicalgirl]

I don't understand - why WS would be on a reality show?

I am not sure if I am reading this right; but it sounds like if people hold the same opinion or worse of GA or CA today, that you feel they have not 'sleuthed and analyzed on an ongoing basis' and thus, have not grown. That their emotional and intellectual growth has stopped.

If that is what you intended to say, I don't think that is fair and it feels like scolding me for not having the 'forgiveness and sympathy' for the parents that you do. Everyone's timetables for forgiveness is different and some can forgive, but not forget or maybe better said, forgive but know better than to trust again.

So - am I miss understanding the intent of your post??

Not on - in! :floorlaugh:

I have no problem with what anyone thinks about the Anthony's although I do sometimes wonder why people stay in the same emotional spot for so long. But - it is not that I am expecting forgiveness or sympathy - I don't believe I'm at that level myself yet.

I seek understanding and for that I need more information because I'm not sure I do understand. But that is just me - that makes me no better or no worse than anyone else.

What I was talking about was the way or manner this hatred of the Anthony's is expressed. If we are criticizing someone like CA, or GA, the fact that we are "right" doesn't mean we have to sink the the level of the Jerry Springer show to show our dislike or disapproval does it?

I'm not asking anyone to show sympathy or forgiveness and I'm not scolding anyone - I'm asking if we could "lift the level" of our disapproval is all. It's just me but I find name calling really upsetting...especially when it goes on and on.