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I'm not buying this book, I just finished reading what has been put out for free by Amazon, I could never finish this book, I can't stand the way it's written. I'm pretty sure everything in the first two chapters has already been made public, I have no reason to believe the rest of the book will contain anything new. Maybe new lies. I did laugh when FCA asks LA if he wanted her to tell him the truth. The post CA left on Myspace was sad to me but then I remembered how she lied about so many things. I have to applaud all of you who read the entire book, thank you!!!
 
This issue is actually one of the bases for her up-coming appeal, that she was not read her Miranda rights when she was placed in handcuffs, placed in the back of the police car by I think the first officer on the scene, and then when Yuri or another officer came by and they got the kidnapping story, they got her out and removed them. My impression is this was early on the night of the 16th, before she even wrote her statement out? Then she was taken to Universal hours later, but I think her DT is saying that since she was "arrested" in the handcuffs, she should have been Mirandized, and ANYTHING she stated or wrote after that should not have been allowed into court as evidence due to that fact, including the whole Universal interview.

There was a hearing as another poster stated, I remember all of the officers on the stand explaining what happened when they first arrived, CA said the car was stolen, then I think she told the officers also about a stolen credit card or something, wasn't she getting them the credit card receipts? and then "Oh, by the way, maybe we should mention our granddaughter is also missing". :banghead:

There was a hearing and JP said everything was procedurally correct, all of her statements that night/next day, etc., were admitted into evidence, so I am wondering how that hearing and JP's ruling will affect the appeal? I guess we'll see soon.


IMO, MOO, etc.

The point I see is, that when she did have the handcuffs on they were not asking her questions about Caylee or her location. She wasn't under arrest so they came back off. Seems Cindy changed her mind about pressing charges on the car theft and credit card theft. She wasn't under arrest when they took her to Universal. They asked her if she would take them to her job to get the info needed on locating Zanny. She got out of the car, the handcuffs came off, she went on her own free will, at any point she could have said, I've changed my mind, let me out of the car. She gave them the info freely so that they could help her locate her daughter. Did she get back into the same car or a different car? Correct me if I'm wrong. But when the handcuffs were placed on wasn't she in a marked car and when they came off she was in Yuri's unmarked car? In any event she was not under arrest when she went with Yuri and she knew it. She knew that she wasn't under arrest when Cindy changed her mind on pressing charges. She went on her own free will, not in handcuffs. I know what you're saying and how they worded it, but even though it's in the same time frame, it's still two different instances, #1-(hand cuff's on) one being a reported stolen car and credit card.#2-(Handcuffs off) Getting info from Universal. I recall how Baez said that she was in fear or intimated by these large men. I call BS being we have all seen that Casey has NO FEAR of anything or anyone.
 
Maybe if someone is bored today, they could copy and paste the link showing JB posting under fake name link on every 5*.

Keep voting everyone. If you haven't voted, go do so. Your name or info will NOT show to say you found a review helpful or not helpful.

Logical-- me thinks that was done to pi$$ you off, using your name. My goodness, this is 5th grade all over again, isn't it?

I wouldn't worry too much about those 5* reviews. No one believes them and certainly no one is buying the book based on those doofuses
 
So I went back to our local bookstore today because I had ordered a book (NOT Jose's) last week sometime. I checked to see if they had any of Jose's in stock, they didn't. I asked if they were going to be getting any in, they are not unless someone orders it. Next I had to go to Wal-mart for some vitamins and decided to look at their book selection. They also did not have Jose's book. Then when I got home I decided that I would check our local library to see if they had a copy, they don't. They apparently are not going to be getting a copy of it either.

So it looks like I can't read Jose's book even if I wanted to. Oh well, it saves me alot of stress and anger.
 
To add, it was a younger officer, early at the scene who heard Cindy say she wanted Casey arrested for auto theft. The officer handcuffed her and put her in the car at that time. No more than 10 minutes later, a more senior officer finally understood there was a missing child. He ordered her cuffs taken off and she was returned to the house.

I watch COPS and other LE shows, and people are sometimes handcuffed and then have them removed, never having been arrested.

Cheney Mason made a big deal of this at trial to try and get her written and oral statements to police out of the trial.
 
So I went back to our local bookstore today because I had ordered a book (NOT Jose's) last week sometime. I checked to see if they had any of Jose's in stock, they didn't. I asked if they were going to be getting any in, they are not unless someone orders it. Next I had to go to Wal-mart for some vitamins and decided to look at their book selection. They also did not have Jose's book. Then when I got home I decided that I would check our local library to see if they had a copy, they don't. They apparently are not going to be getting a copy of it either.

So it looks like I can't read Jose's book even if I wanted to. Oh well, it saves me alot of stress and anger.

Thanks for the idea. We have a regional library (two counties) and there are a number of branches. The book is on order (kindle edition) a grand total of 8 people are waiting for it. Their policy is to buy one copy unless there is an unusual demand.

The more populous county to the north of us where I used to live has over 15 good-size branches. They don't have a single copy.

Both libraries have copies of Imperfect Justice, including kindle, audio, large print versions. After almost a year into its publication, there is still a waiting list to read it.

I even went to the Orange County Library. A search shows NO copies! Maybe they are waiting for people to ask for it?
 
On May 5th, 2008, Casey in a text to Amy about the cable company being there. Then texted "stupid Brighthouse".

Then she texted that she was playing mario cart with jerkface. Was Caey complaining about the cable at Ricardo M at his apartment and that she was playing mario cart with him. Can you watch cable and play a game at the same time?

I took Casey's remarks about the cable being at the Anthony home and then changing her location in mid stride to RM, texting all the way.

Can't Casey figure it out that she is not that good of a liar like she boasted about? A good liar keeps the stories straight all the way through the lie.

I like the idea of going back through the whole murder of Caylee and putting it out there to show what Casey did to her.

It was to be all about Caylee, but like so many times, it became all about Casey.. Caylee didn't have her PapaJoe standing up for her in the end. I remember a photo of George holding Caylee in his arms and the look on his face said it all. He loved her more than life. George is hurting. He lost two of his girls and will always bear the shame of being called a child molester by his daughter. Cindy said she'd lost one girl she wasn't going to lose another and she hasn't. She has her aging daughter that she'll have to take care of for the rest of her life. Does Cindy think about Caylee when she thinks about Casey? Maybe it's those thoughts, to many of us, makes it all about Caylee.

Many haven't kept up with the murder of Caylee and are now are only hearing the dream teams half-truths and mis truths and outright lies.. to pimp a book and make it all about Casey. Can I call them lies, because just about all have be shown to be lies, or is that libel/ slander? Hmm if you get sued it would all lead back to Casey killing Caylee, because she was more than Casey wanted to give.

And that would put Casey out there for many more to shun her. Maybe being out there free, is a scary place . When no one wants to take you in for fear of what you"ll do to them, when you have to look over your shoulder for the rest of your life and be afraid ,when you"ll never be able to trust any of the people that befriend you because they only wants to use you.. well maybe we'll see some justice for Caylee and that to many was what it was all about. It was and always be about Caylee.
 
After watching JB's interview last nite.. and the one on the view today.. I serious believe He was told to watch it on what he said about the abuse.. He is not saying things in the same way he was a few days ago and It really strikes me as odd..
I think he was warned... not sure by who.. but I think he is trying to be more careful..... Im waiting for the fallout from what he said today compairing casey to real victims.

I also am really offended by him calling Ashton *tourettes boy*... Im wondering if the organizations for people with that affliction or family of those with are aware of his comments.. .. It is really abusive of him to use that in a way that He is .. as a put down.....
If i had it or one of my love ones did.. I would be quite upset.. i wonder what can be done about that if anything..

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Thank you Left Coaster. I am really P.O.'d at him!! I said before my great nephew Robby has tourettes. Thank God it is lessening as he gets older. He has something else Baez doesnt have, brains, compassion for others, a belief in God and intelligence. This is sickening. May Baez get his just reward for his evil mouth!!!:maddening:
 
Hold on to your dime! Actually gram I do remember CA tesifying that when Caylee was younger KC had made plans to pick Julliet & I think Jeffery at Universal & bring them home to the Anthonys for supper. CA had went to all this trouble making a nice meal & then her & KC went to pick them up at universal.
IMO KC used her 2 friends to get out of the house that day & CA was the one that made all the plans to keep KC home.

I think Cindy originally said she went to Universal late in the afternoon/ evening of June 24th and called Casey from the parking lot to see Caylee and Casey told her she already gone back to Tampa. She'd just came back to Orlando to get Zanny insurance ID and then went right back up. The same day George made the police report and Casey showed up with the gas cans. Casey told George said she had already talked to Cindy that day and she may have but I took it be like when Casey told 911 that Caylee had just called her that very day.

Casey said Zanny drove a plain Ford Fiesta. I wonder what Amy rented to go and pick up her new car? Could it of been a plain Ford Fiesta? Kinda like Zanny driving an older reddish car before the wreck? and the color of Amy's new car .

I think I remember Tony L. in the ride around said that on the day they took the gas cans that he had a friend call that needed him to come get him. He'd been in a wreck and broken his arm. It was the same day Zanny had her wreck and broke her arm.

Also Casey's car ran out of gas at the corner of Anthony and Killen. Tony said a man was out working on a truck when they pulled up.
 
So I went back to our local bookstore today because I had ordered a book (NOT Jose's) last week sometime. I checked to see if they had any of Jose's in stock, they didn't. I asked if they were going to be getting any in, they are not unless someone orders it. Next I had to go to Wal-mart for some vitamins and decided to look at their book selection. They also did not have Jose's book. Then when I got home I decided that I would check our local library to see if they had a copy, they don't. They apparently are not going to be getting a copy of it either.

So it looks like I can't read Jose's book even if I wanted to. Oh well, it saves me alot of stress and anger.

................. :silly: ..............
 
So...I haven't read this "book," but is it true that JB says that this IM conversation was GEORGE's conversation, not Casey's??? I guess George was using the name "casey o marie" and chatting with Casey's friend Alex??

Monday, June 16, 2008
WitePlayboi (7:56:15 AM): hey how was the showcase
casey o marie (7:56:34 AM): it went really well!
casey o marie (7:56:39 AM): you should come out one friday
WitePlayboi (7:57:15 AM): i will once i quit my job
casey o marie (7:57:30 AM): awesome!
casey o marie (7:57:33 AM): how's life love?
WitePlayboi (7:58:17 AM): i finished 12th in one of the biggest online poker tourneys last night...i was pissed
casey o marie (7:59:07 AM): alex, that's great though!
casey o marie (7:59:11 AM): you're really stepping it up
WitePlayboi (7:59:34 AM): if i won it was like
WitePlayboi (7:59:35 AM): uhmmm
WitePlayboi (7:59:46 AM): set me up for the next 4 years type money
WitePlayboi (8:00:07 AM): instead
WitePlayboi (8:00:10 AM): scraps
casey o marie (8:00:19 AM): holy crap hun!
WitePlayboi (8:00:29 AM): first was 125,000
casey o marie (8:00:38 AM): jesus christ
WitePlayboi (8:00:53 AM): i get 9000
WitePlayboi (8:00:58 AM): see why its so upseting lol
casey o marie (8:01:08 AM): still, 9000 isn't bad at all babe
WitePlayboi (8:01:33 AM): so what r u up 2
casey o marie (8:02:02 AM): not a whole lot. checking up on all the myspace/facebook hoopla
casey o marie (8:02:03 AM): yourself?
WitePlayboi (8:02:23 AM): im at my moms chillin
WitePlayboi (8:02:28 AM): gonna get a haircut in a lil
casey o marie (8:02:32 AM): nice
casey o marie (8:02:37 AM): how's your place working out?
WitePlayboi (8:02:50 AM): ehhh..i cant wait for the lease to be up
WitePlayboi (8:02:54 AM): waant my own place
casey o marie (8:02:58 AM): this is true
casey o marie (8:03:53 AM): i'm finally moving into my house, at the end of the month. i'll have a roommate for a little bit. but at least my friend amy is like living with myself.
WitePlayboi (8:04:17 AM): yeah u told me
WitePlayboi (8:04:19 AM): thats hot!
casey o marie (8:04:23 AM):
casey o marie (8:04:29 AM): i'm extremely excited
casey o marie (8:04:34 AM): it's well passed due
WitePlayboi (8:04:49 AM): u gonna invite me over
casey o marie (8:05:09 AM): most definitely
WitePlayboi (8:05:20 AM): late night randevous
casey o marie (8:05:25 AM): haha no no
casey o marie (8:05:32 AM): but poker games, beer pong, the usually hang outs
casey o marie (8:05:40 AM): casey really likes this boyfriend of hers
WitePlayboi (8:05:44 AM): i had to try
casey o marie (8:05:59 AM): i know
casey o marie (8:06:00 AM): haha
 
Thanks for the idea. We have a regional library (two counties) and there are a number of branches. The book is on order (kindle edition) a grand total of 8 people are waiting for it. Their policy is to buy one copy unless there is an unusual demand.

The more populous county to the north of us where I used to live has over 15 good-size branches. They don't have a single copy.

Both libraries have copies of Imperfect Justice, including kindle, audio, large print versions. After almost a year into its publication, there is still a waiting list to read it.

I even went to the Orange County Library. A search shows NO copies! Maybe they are waiting for people to ask for it?

Interesting! I checked my library and theyhave eight copies of Jeffs book in hardback (six currently checked out) and one audio book that has a waiting list. No books of Baez at all!
 
Well, he's dropped back down to #203 in Ranking, so maybe it caused the big drop....heh heh.....

Just was told he's bragging on his FB page that he made the New York Times Best Seller list.


Note: Rielle Hunter's book did that too - then it bombed.
 
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