Sidebar Discussion #9

[krkrjx]

OT sort of, but not totally.

We have a case in my state where a man just murdered his three young daughters. He did not hate his children. He hated their mother.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

That's not what the emails between Dom and the psychic said. But I don't want to make a big deal about the fact we don't agree.
PS: how can you even believe what CA says - she was such a belligerent windbag!!!

Okay, just to muddy the theory up more - my gut has always told me that cindy sent a note/map in the teddy bear to the 'psychics' so the story was both.

 

[Intermezzo]

Not being able to prove an accusation has not stopped Casey and Company from accusing George of a crime, or two, or three. Just sayin...JB wants everyone to believe Casey innocent for lack of sufficient evidence, yet even though there is no evidence against George, JB wants him presumed guilty!

Some people insist on having it both ways, I guess.

:rocker:

 

[A_News_Junkie]

oops sorry I didn't see yours before I posted - I should have read back. I soooo wish that the pic of Caylee saying "presumed" had been in there. Would have made it perfect.

I sent it to who I think is the creator - told said creator they were free to use it or the idea and add it in the video if they want. I suggested it would make a powerful ending. So we will see.

That was just one of those moments where the pic was in my head, and I had to get it out and just make the pic. Maybe letting out my feelings is what keeps my BP low.

Hugs to all who know the pain of being abandoned. HUGE HUGS!

 

[Intermezzo]

Well, she did say she was robbed once...was that at the Sports Authority? (lol)

Yup.. allegedly robbed at gunpoint while allegedly working at Sports Authority

 

[miss plum]

When you consider how many people have had to engage in huge damage control due to her behavior across 31 days four years ago, and how many have had to be involved in keeping her "safe" (on a leash) during her year on probation, it's hard to imagine what horrors lie ahead once she gets her own life back again. During those 31 days she hadn't yet been acquitted of the worst crime a human can commit; the potential for hubris now she's got that on her resume is frightening. And any of her future acts will be partly on her enablers' heads since they were willing to go to such extraordinary lengths to keep her unaccountable. JMO.

 

[peedoffinny]

A little bit of background here and why I am so hard on Cindy Anthony. I know that there are some websleuthers that know some of my story from during the trial in the chat room.

My mother is alot like Cindy and Casey Anthony. My mother (who's name also happens to be Cindy) uses everyone, including me-her own daughter. She is never wrong, even when the evidence is in front of her to prove that she is wrong. Nothing is ever her fault. She cheated numerous times on not only my father but her two husbands after him. Instead of admitting that she cheated, when caught, she said she was raped. She is/was in constant competition with me and every other woman that she knows. I had my first daughter when I was 25. As I sat in the hospital room the day after I delivered my daughter, she told me she was trying to get pregnant and wouldn't that be so cool. Instead she and husband number 3 adopted a little baby girl that was exactly 3 months older than my older daughter. When I became pregnant again at 30, she tried to adopt again but was turned down because of health issues. She has gone to therapy for many, many years. During one session she apparently told her therapist that I hated her because I didn't have a mother growing up. She said that I was in a bad relationship and that she felt it was her fault. The therapist called me and asked me to come in for a joint session with my mother, then I was told what all she had been claiming about me. The kicker of it all? I DID have a mom growing up, my wonderful step-mom who had been in my life since I was 6 years old. I DID have a wonderful relationship with my husband (still do) and we are very happy. I DO hate my mother but not because of her not being there, that was MY choice to break away from her. I hate my mother because I know what she is, the type of person that she is, the type of mother that she is. I know that she was NOT raised that way but something happened. She even had the nerve to accuse my grandfather (my dad's dad) of sexual abuse. This was after she found out from my grandmother that my aunt's husband tried things with me. She never said anything to me before that time, or my grandmother, or her therapist, or my father, or anyone else. She made it up so that she had a "similar" story that we could "bond" over.

So yes, I see Cindy Anthony much different than some people do. I can see the manipulation, the lies, the wheels turning in her head. I can see her thinking "What will make me look better?" I see all of that, but I do NOT see a victim.

Sorry for the rant, just trying to explain why I see Cindy the way I do.

TM, Thanks for sharing and I'm sorry that you had to go through everything that you did. What always bothered me is CA not questioning or following up when KC was pregnant. Is it really possible that CA was so self absorbed that she didn't notice KC was pregnant? I just can't get inside her head and see how that was missed, or maybe it wasn't??? What would be the reason for her not questioning or really checking into KCs big belly?

 

[Niner]

a little late on the scene again...

By-azz is in the news again today: :banghead:

Accordiing to USA Today, but about the Zimmerman case, 16 July 2012:

"...Recordings released Monday included 145 phone calls Zimmerman had while in jail.

In one conversation Zimmerman spoke with an unidentified person who told him that Zimmerman's friend and defender Frank Taaffe said that "he has an interested party" who was willing to pay for his legal defense as long as Jose Baez was co-counsel.

Baez represented Casey Anthony, the Florida woman who was tried and acquitted in the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, last summer.

Zimmerman quotes O'Mara as saying, "if you want him to be co-counsel just have him be your counsel because I will excuse myself."

Zimmerman in the recording said, "I told him no, absolutely not." "

Here is the entire article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-16/zimmerman-abuse-prosecutor-trayvon/56253714/1

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:seeya:

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Same here, because I thought it had been stated in an article somewhere that the house was threatened with foreclosure but then it was somehow paid up.

I won't go any further with what I am thinking is going on. Not until I see evidence that this short sale to avoid foreclosure is true.

Found something on this 'rumor' or fact - just found this - have not even read it yet!
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2012/07/16/jose-baez-water-lilly-lane-house-short-sale/

 

[miss plum]

TM, Thanks for sharing and I'm sorry that you had to go through everything that you did. What always bothered me is CA not questioning or following up when KC was pregnant. Is it really possible that CA was so self absorbed that she didn't notice KC was pregnant? I just can't get inside her head and see how that was missed, or maybe it wasn't??? What would be the reason for her not questioning or really checking into KCs big belly?

My mother has a lot of Cindy in her as well, and if something doesn't fit within the parameters of her omniscient narrative it doesn't exist. A narcissist's capacity for denial is breathtaking.

 

[logicalgirl]

Found something on this 'rumor' or fact - just found this - have not even read it yet!
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2012/07/16/jose-baez-water-lilly-lane-house-short-sale/

Interesting Junkie - I'd forgotten Baez's house is called or on Lily Lane - now there is a coincidence if I ever saw one....
Jose Baez Water Lilly Lane house short sale

 

[Dcstew]

To those that read "the book" does JB make any reference to when KC told him the Caylee drown story? He has been asked by a couple interviewers if this was true why didn't she tell right away. He answers because this family isn't normal(something along those lines). Well when did he find out and why didn't he come out with it? Yes, I know he's not normal either, but he state when he was told this?

I'm getting tempted to buy the book just to read the lies!! I'm trying to be strong and not buy it. lease:

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I see that statement all over the reviews of Baez's book. The media fed us all lies. Yeah right. I just call 'em on it. What lies...? show me the lies from MSM. Show me where they reported facts that were not true. List them. These 5 starers have no ability to back up anything. Challenge them and they disappear.

Poor Jose. He should of just kept his mouth shut. He's pissed off the WebSleuthers.

Big mistake,

 

[logicalgirl]

Baez is such a crybaby - not only has the book raised in rank to 346 or something - they have raised the price until it is four cents more than Jeff Ashton's.

Now how long ago did I make my neiner neiner neiner post with a couple of oke: oke: making fun of him because a year later JA's book still costs more than his!!

Bwaahahaha!!! Less than six hours later a certain crybaby hikes his book price up four - guffaw - cents, and does some more creative book sales juggling.

With out naming names - am I allowed to say the words "acting like an immature buffoon" and keeping me collapsing in hooting laughter from one hour to the next??

Edited to add - Hi Jose and thanks for the laughs today. Looking forward to more chuckles tomorrow!!

 

[logicalgirl]

To those that read "the book" does JB make any reference to when KC told him the Caylee drown story? He has been asked by a couple interviewers if this was true why didn't she tell right away. He answers because this family isn't normal(something along those lines). Well when did he find out and why didn't he come out with it? Yes, I know he's not normal either, but he state when he was told this?

I'm getting tempted to buy the book just to read the lies!! I'm trying to be strong and not buy it. lease:

At the end of the hearings, docs, etc and just before the trial. He is on tape in front of the media insisting Caylee was alive until she was found. Then she was kidnapped - then it was Jesse, then it was Kronk - blah blah.
He had to come up with something....

Can't you just go to your local bookstore, find a quiet corner, flip through to find your answers, and leave a post-it in the pages to say "this book is carp - don't bother" and be on your way?

 

[peedoffinny]

To those that read "the book" does JB make any reference to when KC told him the Caylee drown story? He has been asked by a couple interviewers if this was true why didn't she tell right away. He answers because this family isn't normal(something along those lines). Well when did he find out and why didn't he come out with it? Yes, I know he's not normal either, but he state when he was told this?

I'm getting tempted to buy the book just to read the lies!! I'm trying to be strong and not buy it. lease:

Some exeripts from the book:

The day I had a major breakthrough with Casey came in the early months of 2009.

“Let’s start from the moment you woke up,” I said. “What happened?” “On the 16th [of June] I had fallen asleep,” Casey began. “I dozed off, and when my father woke me up, he started yelling at me, ‘Where the hell is Caylee? Where the hell is Caylee?’

Golenbock, Peter; Baez, Jose (2012-07-03). Presumed Guilty (Kindle Locations 3399-3402). Perseus Books Group. Kindle Edition.

 

[Intermezzo]

To those that read "the book" does JB make any reference to when KC told him the Caylee drown story? He has been asked by a couple interviewers if this was true why didn't she tell right away. He answers because this family isn't normal(something along those lines). Well when did he find out and why didn't he come out with it? Yes, I know he's not normal either, but he state when he was told this?

I'm getting tempted to buy the book just to read the lies!! I'm trying to be strong and not buy it. lease:

BBM
IIRC...a WS'er who read the book or heard Baez in an interview say that it was early 2009

Does anyone else remember that?

 

[Intermezzo]

I just read that Baez house was up for sale at auction today....
It had been listed as a short sale.
Bad day for Baez....:boohoo:

Well that's gotta hurt...
He paid $670,000 in 2007
It is listed as a Short Sale for $269,00

In September 2009 he stopped making mortgage payments and in 2010 the foreclosure process started...and iirc very few docs were entered into the public court record since then but I have not checked in a few months.

The mortgage lender has to agree to the"short sale" and it can take many many months to close the deal once the home has been purchased.

And, iirc, even a "short sale" has negative ramifications on ones credit rating/FICO score

UPDATE
I have updated and posted on the Foreclosure thread...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110341&highlight=Baez+Foreclosure&page=25

And by the looks of it Baez's lawyer Cindy Duque, on the foreclosure case, withdrew as his counsel in May

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Interesting Junkie - I'd forgotten Baez's house is called or on Lily Lane - now there is a coincidence if I ever saw one....
Jose Baez Water Lilly Lane house short sale

Boy oh boy, isn't it now. I guess a Lily can have a thorn like a rose! LOL

:rose: <--------isn't that the cutest rosebud?!?!?

 

[A_News_Junkie]

In addition to the 'early 2009' in the book, I think I heard him on some show (GVS maybe?) say it was Jan 2009. (Course, I thought on both accounts of this - yeah, right!)

In all fairness, one can't always be standing in front of a stack of tabloids to remember everything! Sarcasm dripping!