Sidebar for Caylee Anthony's forum #14

[bayouland]

I agree. She is a narcissist with a capital N. Narcissists, when backed into a corner like Casey was, only hurt other people, never themselves.

I think we will soon hear abut post it bandits threatening her again.......:great::great:

 

[logicalgirl]

logicalgirl, I'm not picking on you at all. It's just that I've been reading most of the day and there are a bunch of peeps saying they tried the case as I bolded in your reply.

I think that it is true that "old school" may certainly apply to the lack of forensics done on the computer. LDB and JA depended on their local people to do all the computer searches. There was testimony by them that there were difficulties with getting the information from Firefox. Why they didn't pass the problems on to the FBI or FDLA to iron them out.

We knew well before the trial (thanks to all those computer experts here) that Casey used Firefox while her parents used MIE. Grrr...

However, let's remember that this trial was a groundbreaker in accepting new science. Ashton got Arpad Vass on the stand for the first-ever testimony about the components of decompositional gasses. The same goes for the chloroform testimony. He got the testimony about the death band in. There was more new science, but memory fails and there's no need to go into it all.

Someday, in a future case, what was first introduced here will be successfully used in cases and we will have convictions based on the new territory opened by the prosecution.

All that being said, I am a zero when it comes to science, but by the time it was explained at trial, even I was able to grasp it. It will be much the same as it was with DNA. At first, it was so difficult to grasp. I remember the OJ trial on that one! The amount of detail and the length of the testimony pretty much negated that all, along with a strong defense team. Now, DNA testimony has become so familiar to the public that the explanation of how this science works has become much simpler and is the kiss of death in many trials.

If there is any justice for Caylee, part of it comes from the fact that down the line, the science the jury didn't get will convict others.

Go ahead and pick on me - I don't mind - I will either bite back or not!:floorlaugh:
In this case - thank you for picking up on what I obviously didn't include but assumed our members would "get".

I loved the science - loved it - not a stretch for me to wrap my mind around at all. Found it presented in a very straight forward manner - thought it was grand and agree we should be constantly introducing new sciences whenever possible. None of that was what I was excluding from old school.

By "old school" I was speaking specifically and only of the exclusiion of computer science. For me computers and the languages or software and the amazing things we can do with them, and track with them is not new. I got my first one in 1984 and have been attached to one - one way or anothe since then.

But I realize many many people don't accept or understand their "servant" role or even begin to trust how intuitive they are, or how outstanding a computer memory is. It's just math, but most don't get that. So - all I was saying is I think our police forces should have a clearer understanding of them and develop a higher trust level of them as one of the foundations of their investigations, at the street level.

I thought the LE and the OCSD worked tirelessly on this case - doing excellent work and deeply regret that as we delight in these new discoveries, some will see it as a slur on their performance. And that was never my intention - never!!

 

[logicalgirl]

:yourock:

Oh!! So glad I got back to my desk in time for some lunch!!! This looks insanely good!!

 

[logicalgirl]

Ermmm - Lunch???

 

[bayouland]

Yum yum!!! Now this is the kind of pre-Thanksgiving spread that is appealing to me!!!

I would like to mention that I am very thankful to be a member of Websleuths!

It's great that there's a place to hang out with so many analytical beings in one spot on the net.

Love, Peace and Happy Thanksgiving to all......

 

[my2sense]

I'm wondering what JB's co-author (like that hyphen?) is thinking right now

 

[momtective]

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I hope she sues his azz off! In my estimation that is exactly what he needs to bring him down a peg! I can see her doing well. AZ. is one smart lady.:rocker: :seeya:

Yes Ma'am Miss Nore, my sentiments exactly!

 

[J. J. in Phila]

This isn't a case that I am overly familiar with, but do they have a date-time of the Google search? That might make a difference.

Also, I absolutely love Intermezzo's quote from Machiavelli.

 

[RR0004]

Want to include these <snips> from the above WESH link -

WESH 2 News legal analyst Richard Hornsby said the state would have had a better chance to convict Anthony had the evidence been discovered sooner. "The words to describe there was a search that implicates Casey Anthony but no one found it stuns me -- best way to describe it," Hornsby said.

umm...maybe they should be forthcoming and also describe their legal analyst as a "blogger" since he has posted here himself on many, many occasions.

I mean I am getting really, really tired of the "blogger" description as if it is something less than admirable and cast some sort of doubt on the quality of the info uncovered.

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Burdick said she never asked investigators to search for the term "suffocation" specifically before or during the trial but that, "I asked for a full history of June 16, 2008, before trial. I have those emails."

uh..yeah, she sounds pretty clear here that she thought it had been done thoroughly. I imagine she is not too happy to discover this.

...and, RH, who does pop-in from time to time, was free to run with the info when AZ and JWG first posted it. But, he obviously didn't see the significance in it...and now he's playing Monday morning quarterback?

 

[zoey]

What is the food. Wine islooking really nummy:seeya:

 

[RR0004]

And IMO, there was PLENTY of evidence anyway! :banghead:

ITA...that's something we shouldn't lose sight of.

 

[DITNFC]

Hey everyone. Have a question...I noticed over on the other thread #13 it was mentioned George said Casey left at "12:50" We know the search was done at "2:50" and Baez says "1:50".. Anyone else think it is strange George would pick "12:50" It is making me SMDH!

 

[Steely Dan]

Can't believe I never heard of this case before now. I'll have to read up on it although the first name "Cleveland" vaguely rings a bell. Maybe Katrina knocked it out of my head.

BBM - I hope the Feds can do something about it.

ETA I used to live on that very short street decades ago when the apartments were brand new and privately owned! It used to be Mary Poppins.

BBM

Are you a Family Guy fan?

So in reality this was all about JB being able to mention his book, again. I did notice he did make reference to his book. Thank you AZlawyer and JWG for that you have done. It's because of people like you two that the truth will continue to come out.


PS you two are so dignified, so professional, I only wish baby Caylee had you two on her team also.

:goodpost:

He spelled it correctly as "foolproof". I went to Amazon where you can look inside the book. I need to go take a shower and rinse my eyes now.

Dolts. They were useless. You know what really bugs me about the Pinellas 12? The jurors who claimed they thought she was guilty, but then caved in to pressure from the rest of the jury. If you really thought a young woman had murdered her two-year-old child, would you back down? Not me! I would have dug in my heels and refused to be bullied. And I think if there had been a hung jury and a second trial, Casey Anthony would be in prison right now, for a long long time.

But she'll do an OJ, I'm sure of it. She got away with murder! And she's a sociopath. She's going down. It may take awhile, but then...:jail:

As they said in the OJ trial. Would you really want anyone on the jury who didn't know about it?

The jury system is flawed. Sequestering has to stop. It's my belief that the jurors just wanted to get home and weren't going to make waves. The verdict came in on July 5th, one day after July 4th when their families were celebrating. I don't think that's coincidence. JMO

This is another coffin nail in KC's quest to earn money from killing her daughter. For all we know, she has something in the works and someone has been thinking enough time has gone by to take a risk with her. Hopefully this nail, which is shiny and new, will thwart her ability to crawl from her underground dwelling.

I imagine when she hears the names AZLawyer, JWG and Weblsleuths, she looks like this:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUTzZ2bxj7icxIsSeNDsk3e6_pUjRy5FodMMcUDHXTPkbt5nssfCaNI-2x

BBM

Are you saying that AZL and JWG gave a thwart report to the news station. :giggle:

Bah - he's so thick he won't get it because you aren't a chemist! Please tell me he gets crushed on the program tonight!!!

I'm sure he will. lease:

I honestly think the mistake was made to try and choose a jury who didn't know about this case. In the world today with news 24/7 and social media you'd have to be living under a rock in a cave to not have known about this case - and what kind of person doesn't form an opinion when they read information???

:goodpost:

What gets me is if someone is wrongly convicted, then new evidence comes to light, they get out of jail free. When new evidence comes to light that would convict someone who walked, what happens? :furious:

They walk free still.

Just because you don't know much about this case doesn't mean you are ignorant. What if someone gets their news from CBS Evening News, Meet the Press, Rachel Maddow, and the NY Times? How often would they hear about the case? How much would they know? Obviously, that person is not ignorant of news in the world. If you aren't interested in these cases, it's not hard to avoid them. Yeah, I think it's weird to have never heard of it, but there's nothing wrong with not knowing much else.

Most of the news sites you mentioned did a story on this when big things happened all along the way. I'm positive they did news stories when her body was found.

 

[MissJ]

Sorry if this is off subject but does JB even know what a "blogger" is?

 

[LinasK]

How'd you know Lasagne is what I made for dinner last night??? And Brownies for dessert tonight!!!:great:

 

[chefmom]

Hey Chefmom! I SEE YOU!

Do you have a tasty dish for us? lease:

Intermezzo is cooking tonight! Italian! Yummmm!

 

[Marshmallow]

Channel 9's Kathi Belich learned that one reason Baez found things investigators didn't might have been that he had inside information from Anthony herself.

The word suffocation had been misspelled, but Baez said his expert had no trouble finding it.

this is the kind of post I read and then 5 minutes later I burst into laughter when I realize what it really says...bravo!


I wonder how the waters in the Anthony household are.

 

[TorisMom003]

This isn't a case that I am overly familiar with, but do they have a date-time of the Google search? That might make a difference.

Also, I absolutely love Intermezzo's quote from Machiavelli.

Yes JJ, they do. The computer records show that the search was done on June 16th 2008 at 2:51 pm. We have a thread about this information.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69288&page=52

 

[MissJ]

She left the Palm Beach church in a hurry IIRC- there was a long phone message from the Pastor's wife to Casey, on the Internet in no time, detailing how ungrateful she was and how selfish, and chastising her for using them and leaving without notice...
Some things never change.

Sorry but what did they expect?

 

[bayouland]

BBM
I agree
And he failed to take into consideration that someone, anyone, would challenge it.

It amazes me how naiive he is......