Sievers Sidebar #1

[observation]

I often wonder how these guilty creeps PRETEND to be affected by the heinous crimes they've commented. For instance, how did MS feign/fake/pretend remorse in front of his relatives? Didn't TS' nurse say he was hysterical? And didn't we see pictures of him falling to the ground in front of his home? Yet, others observed MS as seemingly unaffected by his wife's brutal death, and acting somewhat animated at TS' funeral.

I've come to the conclusion, that psychopaths are always acting, and have mastered the art of performance. They're very adept at faking emotions, and can roll through the different acts without any hesitation. They're also fearless.


Check under her nails extra thoroughly, because she's a fighter. DEATH PENALTY

Paulas- I don't think we will ever comprehend the mindset of certain individuals. There is no logic or understanding of this type of human behavior- it's pretty close to sub-human bordering on animal-like behavior.


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[DaleTray]

Sorry for 2nd post in one day but have been lurking for quite some time and guess I am growing a little bored waiting on batch 2
The TS entire family has my sympathy. They didn't deserve this, especially the girls. The best they can hope for is TS didnt suffer long, that the kids are soon in a stable/loving/safe environment and that a conviction puts MS where he belongs. Teresa's family has the support of each other. Think about it for a minute...when TS mom goes grocery shopping or running errands she is being shown support and sympathy. Now compare that to BS. Mom's can and should be so proud of their children. No doubt BS was proud to proclaim her son MS living in very nice home, married to a doctor, 2 beautiful healthy kids. Bragging from the mountain top to anyone/everyone. What kind of Christmas will BS have? What kind odd stares does she receive at the grocery or church? What is going on in her mind when she looks into her son's eyes when BS visits with MS and kids? How many nights of sound sleep has BS had since reading batch 1 (I strongly feel she has read them as her technology hound son has probably kept her connected to the internet so she can Facebook). BS has probably lost weight, gained some grey hairs, been forced to remain hidden inside her own home out of embarrassment. I would assume she probably uprooted from her home in MO to be closer to her proud son and 2 granddaughters. Cost of living in Bonita Springs substantially higher than MO so, who knows, maybe MS was using some of TS income to support BS which could cause another financial shortage soon. The constant wonder of what she could have done different. Maybe she wants to tell LE she saw her son start carrying a 2nd phone? . I often wonder if she still holds out hope that her son wasn't involved or if reality tells her otherwise.BS didn't deserve this either and she is the one that continues to suffer greatly every day. She has my empathy.

 

[relay]

Sorry for 2nd post in one day but have been lurking for quite some time and guess I am growing a little bored waiting on batch 2
The TS entire family has my sympathy. They didn't deserve this, especially the girls. The best they can hope for is TS didnt suffer long, that the kids are soon in a stable/loving/safe environment and that a conviction puts MS where he belongs. Teresa's family has the support of each other. Think about it for a minute...when TS mom goes grocery shopping or running errands she is being shown support and sympathy. Now compare that to BS. Mom's can and should be so proud of their children. No doubt BS was proud to proclaim her son MS living in very nice home, married to a doctor, 2 beautiful healthy kids. Bragging from the mountain top to anyone/everyone. What kind of Christmas will BS have? What kind odd stares does she receive at the grocery or church? What is going on in her mind when she looks into her son's eyes when BS visits with MS and kids? How many nights of sound sleep has BS had since reading batch 1 (I strongly feel she has read them as her technology hound son has probably kept her connected to the internet so she can Facebook). BS has probably lost weight, gained some grey hairs, been forced to remain hidden inside her own home out of embarrassment. I would assume she probably uprooted from her home in MO to be closer to her proud son and 2 granddaughters. Cost of living in Bonita Springs substantially higher than MO so, who knows, maybe MS was using some of TS income to support BS which could cause another financial shortage soon. The constant wonder of what she could have done different. Maybe she wants to tell LE she saw her son start carrying a 2nd phone? . I often wonder if she still holds out hope that her son wasn't involved or if reality tells her otherwise.BS didn't deserve this either and she is the one that continues to suffer greatly every day. She has my empathy.

Welcome DaleTray, and thank you for your insightful posts :rose:. Many of us post lots of times each day, and we care deeply about what happened to Dr. Teresa. Please keep posting and never be concerned that you posted too much :blowkiss:.

 

[atthelake]

Sorry for 2nd post in one day but have been lurking for quite some time and guess I am growing a little bored waiting on batch 2
The TS entire family has my sympathy. They didn't deserve this, especially the girls. The best they can hope for is TS didnt suffer long, that the kids are soon in a stable/loving/safe environment and that a conviction puts MS where he belongs. Teresa's family has the support of each other. Think about it for a minute...when TS mom goes grocery shopping or running errands she is being shown support and sympathy. Now compare that to BS. Mom's can and should be so proud of their children. No doubt BS was proud to proclaim her son MS living in very nice home, married to a doctor, 2 beautiful healthy kids. Bragging from the mountain top to anyone/everyone. What kind of Christmas will BS have? What kind odd stares does she receive at the grocery or church? What is going on in her mind when she looks into her son's eyes when BS visits with MS and kids? How many nights of sound sleep has BS had since reading batch 1 (I strongly feel she has read them as her technology hound son has probably kept her connected to the internet so she can Facebook). BS has probably lost weight, gained some grey hairs, been forced to remain hidden inside her own home out of embarrassment. I would assume she probably uprooted from her home in MO to be closer to her proud son and 2 granddaughters. Cost of living in Bonita Springs substantially higher than MO so, who knows, maybe MS was using some of TS income to support BS which could cause another financial shortage soon. The constant wonder of what she could have done different. Maybe she wants to tell LE she saw her son start carrying a 2nd phone? . I often wonder if she still holds out hope that her son wasn't involved or if reality tells her otherwise.BS didn't deserve this either and she is the one that continues to suffer greatly every day. She has my empathy.

Not to take away my empathy or misplace it for anybody else, but I too feel for BS and her support system....and the families who are innocent yet associated with those who are evil. I hope they are all getting the PRIVATE support they deserve and need at this time in their lives.

G.d forbid.. and I don't see it... that they would be a " Cindy and George Anthony" type of family iykwim .

Perhaps to see them as the invisible victims when atrocities like this happen ...especially when they are brought into the crime and may have to go on to the stand.

As I have said before and I will say it again ...I admire and hold high those people who may be taken to court when this goes to trial ...that they have not posted anywhere... they have not been interviewed anywhere....

Too many cases I have followed where many folks have had an interview by the media and or posted somewhere online and it has been used against them and they are thrown through the shredder during the trial for doing such... As the defense team will certainly ask those questions ( re posting /etc ) during a deposition if they go to trial and go on a stand

 

[No it's not]

Sorry for 2nd post in one day but have been lurking for quite some time and guess I am growing a little bored waiting on batch 2
The TS entire family has my sympathy. They didn't deserve this, especially the girls. The best they can hope for is TS didnt suffer long, that the kids are soon in a stable/loving/safe environment and that a conviction puts MS where he belongs. Teresa's family has the support of each other. Think about it for a minute...when TS mom goes grocery shopping or running errands she is being shown support and sympathy. Now compare that to BS. Mom's can and should be so proud of their children. No doubt BS was proud to proclaim her son MS living in very nice home, married to a doctor, 2 beautiful healthy kids. Bragging from the mountain top to anyone/everyone. What kind of Christmas will BS have? What kind odd stares does she receive at the grocery or church? What is going on in her mind when she looks into her son's eyes when BS visits with MS and kids? How many nights of sound sleep has BS had since reading batch 1 (I strongly feel she has read them as her technology hound son has probably kept her connected to the internet so she can Facebook). BS has probably lost weight, gained some grey hairs, been forced to remain hidden inside her own home out of embarrassment. I would assume she probably uprooted from her home in MO to be closer to her proud son and 2 granddaughters. Cost of living in Bonita Springs substantially higher than MO so, who knows, maybe MS was using some of TS income to support BS which could cause another financial shortage soon. The constant wonder of what she could have done different. Maybe she wants to tell LE she saw her son start carrying a 2nd phone? . I often wonder if she still holds out hope that her son wasn't involved or if reality tells her otherwise.BS didn't deserve this either and she is the one that continues to suffer greatly every day. She has my empathy.

Thank you for making this very thoughtful comment, DaleTray! Bs as well as the family members of CWW and JR are all victims too. They feel ashamed and may even feel guilty (even though they are not guilty of anything!) for what their beloved family member may have been involved with.

I cannot imagine the excruciating grinding of thoughts of BS asking herself over and over, if she messed up the alarm system and therefore may have contributed to the events. I think it is very clear, that BS had no fault whatsoever. She is a victim and I truly hope, that she will get closure and acceptance about what actually happened in the days leading to the tragic passing of Dr Sievers.

It is much harder to accept a person's guilt, if that person comes over as the caring thoughtful individual - friend - neighbor. It is more gradual and somewhat easier to cope with, if that person has an established criminal history. "I expected that" "I am nor surprised" as opposed to shock, disbelief and rejection of thought. BTK comes to mind.

People make decisions every day. Some make poor decisions, some make good decisions. There are always choices. Always.

Cheers,
Nin

 

[DexterMorgan]

I agree with you, and at this point have been hoping that the girls would be able to have this last Holiday before they lose their last parent. I wish this for the girls sake only.

They can still visit him in prison. Just saying.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Thank you for making this very thoughtful comment, DaleTray! Bs as well as the family members of CWW and JR are all victims too. They feel ashamed and may even feel guilty (even though they are not guilty of anything!) for what their beloved family member may have been involved with.

I cannot imagine the excruciating grinding of thoughts of BS asking herself over and over, if she messed up the alarm system and therefore may have contributed to the events. I think it is very clear, that BS had no fault whatsoever. She is a victim and I truly hope, that she will get closure and acceptance about what actually happened in the days leading to the tragic passing of Dr Sievers.

It is much harder to accept a person's guilt, if that person comes over as the caring thoughtful individual - friend - neighbor. It is more gradual and somewhat easier to cope with, if that person has an established criminal history. "I expected that" "I am nor surprised" as opposed to shock, disbelief and rejection of thought. BTK comes to mind.

People make decisions every day. Some make poor decisions, some make good decisions. There are always choices. Always.

Cheers,
Nin

Once momma realizes that son used her as a pawn to kill his wife. She will feel more heart broken.

One of MS family members should kick his tail for using mom and blaming mom for accidentaly not resetting the alarm. Wink wink.

Shame on him. That's something you do to the maid. But not to mom. Jmo

 

[Wish I Knew]

They can still visit him in prison. Just saying.

I always love your posts, but with this one, I completely disagree. Once he is arrested and they grow up and realize what he did to their mother......they will have lost their father.

Never underestimate the love girls (children) have for their moms. She will be missed at all of (but not limited to) the following:

The first date
The first break up
Prom & homecoming....and dress shopping
Graduation
College selection
Graduation
Engagement...and dress shopping
Wedding
Children

I mean, I know we all get this.....but.....Visiting your dad in prison for killing your mother? Well, not the same kind of warm, fuzzy feeling.

And it's possible they will hate them with every ounce of their being.

It is all so tragic for everyone.....except MS.

 

[Wow]

If Mark remains in "control", he would not be celebrating Christmas due to the fact that he is Jewish. I wonder how this was celebrated in the past with two different religious beliefs... I would guess Christmas would not be in the forefront any longer. Just sayin...

He has blue lights on columns by the front door. Christmas lights or no.

 

[MsArk]

If Mark remains in "control", he would not be celebrating Christmas due to the fact that he is Jewish. I wonder how this was celebrated in the past with two different religious beliefs... I would guess Christmas would not be in the forefront any longer. Just sayin...

Bbm-
I don't get the feeling he is especially devout. I'd bet anything they had a tree and did Santa in year's past. Maybe @AmazonRain can shed a little light on this subject.

I certainly hope, for the sake that all is good left in the lives of the girls, he is carrying on at least some of the family holiday traditions. Children love (and I think thrive) on repetition during the holidays. I understand mixing it up some, for the sake of keeping the "festivities" upbeat, but I hope he at least has the decency to keep some the same.

I love the holidays but also love when they are over, especially when I had young children. I will be glad for the Sievers' girls when they are over. This year must have been an especially hard season for them.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

He has blue lights on columns by the front door. Christmas lights or no.

Thank you for the info, Wow

 

[mariahc]

Was thinking this morning, I wish I could have gotten each of the girls a gift. I hope he had enough money to see to it that they had presents. The season is stark enough for them as it is.

 

[Matlacha]

He has blue lights on columns by the front door. Christmas lights or no.

Southwest Florida artist Myra Roberts has a wonderful painting in her Anne Frank series called The Last Summer (you can see it in her book, Project Tolerance, The Faces of Anne Frank). It shows Anne in 1944, her back to us, looking out the window from the annex in Amsterdam where her family is hiding. Outside, the weather, the trees, the other houses look lovely–but still there’s the dread of being found.

For Mark, brought on by his own greed and stupidity, this is The Last Christmas.

 

[Lilibet]

He has blue lights on columns by the front door. Christmas lights or no.

Please tell me the blue lights are not a reference to "Blue Christmas". He wouldn't, would he?

http://christmas-lyrics.com/christmas-songs-lyrics/blue-christmas-lyrics/

 

[Mountaingazer]

Please tell me the blue lights are not a reference to "Blue Christmas". He wouldn't, would he?

http://christmas-lyrics.com/christmas-songs-lyrics/blue-christmas-lyrics/

A lot of my Jewish friends decorate with blue and sometimes white lights for Hanukkah and keep them up through Christmas. But he is a sick individual so the blue christmas thing wouldn't surprise.

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[susnoat]

Please tell me the blue lights are not a reference to "Blue Christmas". He wouldn't, would he?

http://christmas-lyrics.com/christmas-songs-lyrics/blue-christmas-lyrics/

Blue lights for Hanukkah
3. Hanukkah is the Jewish holiday that is celebrated around the same time as Christmas. Many Jewish families decorate a "Hanukkah bush" as part of their celebration. Obviously, Jewish families would not wish to decorate with colors or symbols that are predominantly associated with the Christian religion. Blue and white are traditionally colors associated with Hanukkah celebrations, so it makes sense that blue lights would be used in decorating for the holiday.

Mourning
4. Historically, blue lights also have been used by families who are in mourning during the Christmas season. Blue serves as a more somber color to decorate with.

Honoring the dead and supporting our troops
5. Along the same lines, blue lights have been used more recently to show support and honor for fallen police officers, firefighters and members of the Armed Services. They are also used to signify that a household supports and remembers troops who are abroad during the holiday season.


HOWEVER.... ^I^ am choosing to believe it is a sign for something like a blue light special. You know, like a 2 for 1 swinger deal of some sort.

 

[Paulas88]

He has blue lights on columns by the front door. Christmas lights or no.

The notion of MS decorated his home for the holiday, just sickens me! He has no shame. I can't give him any excuses, like he did it for the girls, since he killed their irreplaceable Mother, and changed the course of their lives FOREVER, and ever, even for future generations, like TS' grandchildren that she will never see. Does he think he's creating some normalcy for them??? I'm certain that everywhere they go people are pointing, oohing and aahing, "hey look, there's MS and his girls, didn't he hire a hit man to kill his wife?" MS did this to his girls. And hanging up lights IMO, and putting a bow on the whole sick situation is an additional abomination.

I CANNOT WAIT till MS' perp walk and mug shot.

 

[Lilibet]

Blue lights for Hanukkah
3. Hanukkah is the Jewish holiday that is celebrated around the same time as Christmas. Many Jewish families decorate a "Hanukkah bush" as part of their celebration. Obviously, Jewish families would not wish to decorate with colors or symbols that are predominantly associated with the Christian religion. Blue and white are traditionally colors associated with Hanukkah celebrations, so it makes sense that blue lights would be used in decorating for the holiday.

Mourning
4. Historically, blue lights also have been used by families who are in mourning during the Christmas season. Blue serves as a more somber color to decorate with.

Honoring the dead and supporting our troops
5. Along the same lines, blue lights have been used more recently to show support and honor for fallen police officers, firefighters and members of the Armed Services. They are also used to signify that a household supports and remembers troops who are abroad during the holiday season.


HOWEVER.... ^I^ am choosing to believe it is a sign for something like a blue light special. You know, like a 2 for 1 swinger deal of some sort.

BBM

Thanks, susnoat. This was very informative. LOL about the blue light special! If the lights are there for Hanukkah and mourning, I'm astounded at the hypocrisy. But he has to keep up appearances, I suppose, until the "men in blue" come for him. And if this is what his daughters are used to, I'd want things to be normal for them as long as possible.

 

[whonos]

Paulas- I don't think we will ever comprehend the mindset of certain individuals. There is no logic or understanding of this type of human behavior- it's pretty close to sub-human bordering on animal-like behavior.


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I certainly understand your reference to animal like behavior and have said similar things myself, without thinking.

But, in fact we are very wrong because even animals do not stoop to such behavior. Following is a quote from the psychologist Eric Fromm:

“Man differs from the animal by the fact that he is a killer; he is the only primate that kills and tortures members of his own species without any reason, either biological or economic, and who feels satisfaction in doing so.* It is this biologically non-adaptive and non-phylogenetically programmed ‘malignant’ aggression that constitutes the real problem and the danger to man’s existence as a species….” P 26

Eric Fromm, The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness

(Except, I have heard that domesticated cats will play with mice before eating. I guess that is torture. Wonder why that was not considered in Mr. Fromm's statement? Maybe some cat owners have more information. I have always had dogs.)

 

[msboo]

BBM

Thanks, susnoat. This was very informative. LOL about the blue light special! If the lights are there for Hanukkah and mourning, I'm astounded at the hypocrisy. But he has to keep up appearances, I suppose, until the "men in blue" come for him. And if this is what his daughters are used to, I'd want things to be normal for them as long as possible.

We were on Jarvis on the 23rd, noticed some big candy canes hanging over their white fence on the South side of the house, think they had lights on them.