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[irishchook]

wouldn't a simple P.O. Box have been cheaper? Do you think MS was involved in drugs? I find it hard to swallow that a man can go from having a worse offense of speeding in a school zone to murder. A couple weeks ago I would have said "no way", now I say "oh hell yes he was crafty enough to cover his evil all these years". I'm sure I would be surprised (but I can't say you guys would because most of you had him figured out from the start) to learn of more of the shady deeds he was involved in. I can't wait for LE's doc dump on MS! He'll be exposed for all to see!

I think that in the back of our all of our minds, Including myself, it's hard to digest that a man with two beautiful children could murder his wife.
Unfortunately, desperate people do desperate things. Just because he doesn't have a criminal record, doesn't make him innocent. On the surface, I'm sure he followed "protocol" in being a good husband, etc.
No, I don't think MS was using drugs. Do I think he helped CW harbor a meth lab...absolutely!
In one of my previous posts, I stated that I think MS idolized CW.
CW was "single" guy with zero responsibilities. He could 'come and go as he pleases.' Plus, CW has roughed up a few people in the past and has gotten away with it. All-in-all, he had no parental responsibilities.
These types of men can have no history of violence/abuse, but can also have an internal ticking-bomb.

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[No it's not]

I think that in the back of our all of our minds, Including myself, it's hard to digest that a man with two beautiful children could murder his wife.
Unfortunately, desperate people do desperate things. Just because he doesn't have a criminal record, doesn't make him innocent. On the surface, I'm sure he followed "protocol" in being a good husband, etc.
No, I don't think MS was using drugs. Do I think he helped CW harbor a meth lab...absolutely!
In one of my previous posts, I stated that I think MS idolized CW.
CW was "single" guy with zero responsibilities. He could 'come and go as he pleases.' Plus, CW has roughed up a few people in the past and has gotten away with it. All-in-all, he had no parental responsibilities.
These types of men can have no history of violence/abuse, but can also have an internal ticking-bomb.

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'Unfortunately, desperate people do desperate things.'

You think MS was desperate?

-Nin

 

[atthelake]

He may have lived there pre-TS. However, I think it's sole purpose was to have an alternate delivery address for MS & CW to exchange ", drug drop-off, etc.

"is your mail secure at home? Because you could mail me your info."

http://www.brownbearsw.com/cal/siev...e=sievers&Date=2015/05/05&ID=29011404&Source=


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I'll need to revisit it but I have read since 9/11/antrax all USPS mail in the United States is photographed.

I have never seen a court case referring to such...or something come out of it... Does anyone else here share my recollection or have any additions to this recollection?

ETA .. I was about to be lazy then I decided to research it myself. Yes it is . I would cut and paste some information on this link but I am on my phone and cannot.

ETA #2 wow I have learned how to copy text on my phone

"But Mr. Donahoe said that the images had been used “a couple of times” by law enforcement to trace letters in criminal cases, including one involving ricin-laced letters sent to President Obama and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York. "

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/0...-photographing-all-us-mail.html?referer=&_r=0

 

[flgrl017]

There would definitely be value in it to cww. I just don't see where there would be for ms for all these years. The condo has to be worth more than cww's trailer. What's the address of the condo and we can find out the value?

Is it possible it's nicer than CWW's most current home?

I wonder what the value of the condo would be if someone tried to sell it?

Someone like CWW might find value in a condo in Fenton that you or I don't see. He was making meth in that condo at one time after all.

 

[flgrl017]

Condo's address:
Address: 650I OLD HIGHWAY 141 FENTON MO 63026

http://www.realtor.com/realestatean...ighway-141-Apt-I_Fenton_MO_63026_M87247-11783

Here's another unit that's available for rent with pics if you want to look:
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/642-S-Old-Highway-141-APT-L-Fenton-MO-63026/49685829_zpid/

Here's one that's is for sale. It's been updated.
http://www.realtor.com/realestatean...ighway-141-Apt-A_Fenton_MO_63026_M85147-85699

 

[debbiegarcia36]

Condo's address:
Address: 650I OLD HIGHWAY 141 FENTON MO 63026

http://www.realtor.com/realestatean...ighway-141-Apt-I_Fenton_MO_63026_M87247-11783

Here's another unit that's available for rent with pics if you want to look:
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/642-S-Old-Highway-141-APT-L-Fenton-MO-63026/49685829_zpid/

Here's one that's is for sale. It's been updated.
http://www.realtor.com/realestatean...ighway-141-Apt-A_Fenton_MO_63026_M85147-85699

MS uses the condo's address as the "registered" address of his "Universal Communications Unlimited LLC" he formed in 2000. We don't know the unit # do we? The condos are relati ely inexpensive about $100,099 + -.

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[flgrl017]

They seem to go by letters. I think it's Unit I.

MS uses the condo's address as the "registered" address of his "Universal Communications Unlimited LLC" he formed in 2000. We don't know the unit # do we? The condos are relati ely inexpensive about $100,099 + -.

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[Fldrew]

wouldn't a simple P.O. Box have been cheaper? Do you think MS was involved in drugs? I find it hard to swallow that a man can go from having a worse offense of speeding in a school zone to murder. A couple weeks ago I would have said "no way", now I say "oh hell yes he was crafty enough to cover his evil all these years". I'm sure I would be surprised (but I can't say you guys would because most of you had him figured out from the start) to learn of more of the shady deeds he was involved in. I can't wait for LE's doc dump on MS! He'll be exposed for all to see!

IMO it's not drugs, it's money and a love interest with money being the top priority. IMO this has been in the works for a long while.

 

[MsArk]

I'll need to revisit it but I have read since 9/11/antrax all USPS mail in the United States is photographed.

I have never seen a court case referring to such...or something come out of it... Does anyone else here share my recollection or have any additions to this recollection?

ETA .. I was about to be lazy then I decided to research it myself. Yes it is . I would cut and paste some information on this link but I am on my phone and cannot.

ETA #2 wow I have learned how to copy text on my phone

"But Mr. Donahoe said that the images had been used “a couple of times” by law enforcement to trace letters in criminal cases, including one involving ricin-laced letters sent to President Obama and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York. "

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/0...-photographing-all-us-mail.html?referer=&_r=0

Maybe not images photographed but the existence of a PO box discoverable under a subpoena. "CSS, what was the need for you to obtain a post office box when mail was delivered to your home?" Now, I can also see that question backfiring (was afraid my disability checks would be stolen) but post offices DO have security cameras so it would be easy (I think) for LE to get footage of MS entering/exiting a post office to pick up mail. I personally don't think there was a separate PO involved but with these two, there is no telling!

 

[AC's Grandma]

Maybe not images photographed but the existence of a PO box discoverable under a subpoena. "CSS, what was the need for you to obtain a post office box when mail was delivered to your home?" Now, I can also see that question backfiring (was afraid my disability checks would be stolen) but post offices DO have security cameras so it would be easy (I think) for LE to get footage of MS entering/exiting a post office to pick up mail. I personally don't think there was a separate PO involved but with these two, there is no telling!

Just an FYI - Social Security disability checks are all on direct deposit now unless there is a special circumstance where the person can't get a bank account or debit card to load the deposits onto.

 

[beach]

Posted the same in the PayPal thread but will put it here too -

The SAO is closed now and won't reopen until Monday. Still no word. Checked with my outside sources and they don't know anymore than we do. So it appears we will be waiting until next week. :kickcan:


Boo. Hiss. :sigh:

 

[No it's not]

Posted the same in the PayPal thread but will put it here too -

The SAO is closed now and won't reopen until Monday. Still no word. Checked with my outside sources and they don't know anymore than we do. So it appears we will be waiting until next week. :kickcan:


Boo. Hiss. :sigh:

I spent half of the day in the car today, just in case I would be notified about the docs being ready.. I am moving back into the house now. :tantrum:

-Nin

 

[debbiegarcia36]

I spent half of the day in the car today, just in case I would be notified about the docs being ready.. I am moving back into the house now. :tantrum:

-Nin

Thanks for your dedication Nin! I appreciate all you do for us here on Websleuths. Your time and efforts are invaluable.

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[Timekeeper65]

I spent half of the day in the car today, just in case I would be notified about the docs being ready.. I am moving back into the house now. :tantrum:

-Nin

Welcome home NIN.

We do appreciate you.

 

[irishchook]

I spent half of the day in the car today, just in case I would be notified about the docs being ready.. I am moving back into the house now. :tantrum:

-Nin

NIN, you're truly an angel. A lot of things can be 'bought' but you always have no problems with putting your nose to the grind.


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[irishchook]

According to the text msgs in the doc dump, between MS & CW, I wonder if MS was mailing things to his condo for CW to pick up.

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Like the "gift" with the card that "fell out"

http://www.brownbearsw.com/cal/siev...e=sievers&Date=2015/05/05&ID=29011407&Source=

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[irishchook]

Not to mention MS' text to CW. I think they were referring to MS' condo.

MS to CW: "is your mail secure at home? Because you could mail me your info."

http://www.brownbearsw.com/cal/siev...e=sievers&Date=2015/05/05&ID=29011404&Source=

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[KateB]

Let's put the calendar entry date when using Scout's calendar as your link source. It'll make our look backs at the reference a lot easier .

Thanks.

 

[irishchook]

Let's put the calendar entry date when using Scout's calendar as your link source. It'll make our look backs at the reference a lot easier .

Thanks.

I guess we all get lazy at times. However, it's duly noted.

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[RagingClue]

Like the "gift" with the card that "fell out"http://www.brownbearsw.com/cal/siev...e=sievers&Date=2015/05/05&ID=29011407&Source=Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Someone here once said all mail is X-rayed? If that's true,Then could there be evidence of what exactly was sent or is that too sci fi?