Sievers Sidebar #1

[FightTheOstrich]

oh ok. I thought JRR was the one who inherited guns from his father.

I think it was Skinner that shared the info about the guns and safes inside the Siever home.

 

[Bobbywoo]

In the latest news-press.com article it appears MS's attny didn't know more docs were just released......really??? I have a feeling he is bluffing.
Also, SH commented an MS's strange behavior at the wedding of CWW. I hope LE interviewed the people who MS's was complaining about his marriage to while there and the results will be in an upcoming doc release. I was one of the folks that didn't think it odd that MS wasn't wearing his wedding ring during that trip. Boy was I wrong! Not only did he not wear his ring it sounded like he blabbed about his unhappy marriage to anyone that would listen. What a disrespectful azz

 

[lstiff]

I can't help but wonder if they wore masks or if she recognized CWW. I can only imagine her fear as they were chasing her through her own house but wondering if CWW wasn't in mask if she was asking him questions. UGH!

 

[fldigger]

Not that I've seen but I'm very interested in that information as well. My best guess, based on what we have read about CWW's financial status is MS provided a pre-paid debit card for CWW to use for the rental. If that is the case, I wonder if the card number can be tracked to the point of sale? It is just a hunch, but I think that would lead LE directly to MS.

ETA- MS may have given CWW cash to purchase a debit card himself and if so, begs the question, "where did you get they money, CWW"? I just do not think CWW was in any financial position, based on what we have read, the rent back to back rental cars.

When you pick an (anonymous) debit card up at a store they all start a zero balance. It is then loaded at as the payment takes place. So every prepaid debit card load can be tracked by date and time to a store and, in the case of a multi-lane (e.g. Supermarket, Pharmacy) even the cash register. That in turn would be traceable to an in-store CCTV camera.

So if MS is dumb enough to have sent a prepaid card for the rental - he's gonna be toast. The obvious way was to send cash from his $40K stash.

 

[AZlawyer]

I would like to direct this to the legal experts on this thread. LE has to be using each of the suspects against each other. With all the premeditated evidence we know CWW will spend many years behind bars. If CWW knows he will be incarcerated for many years whether he does or does not testify and incriminate MS he will probably take one for the team (no doubt MS is keeping his fingers crossed) allowing his brother from other mother to continue riding his Schwinn around the neighborhood drawing social security on his 2 daughters. My question is....approximately....how much time could CWW negotiate/ save on his sentence to turn on MS? Enough for CWW to tesify or not enough so he just keeps his mouth shut? For the sake of this consideration let's assume charges against CWW are upgraded to 1st degree murder to ultimately help LE persuade CWW to tesify against MS. Again, just approximate.

There are so many factors to consider, but if he also turned on JR and blamed him for all the actual hammer activity, he might be able to get it down to 15 years or so.

 

[DaleTray]

Pondering my thoughts today :thinking: I wonder if CWW and JR could ever do time together again behind bars....same way they met each other. I wonder if CWW could possibly have known way back when all this could fall on him because being with the victims family 1,000 miles away is an awesome alibi for MS. I wonder if any of the people that have been assigned initials on this forum have met up at Hubs Pub & Grill and shared a beer and exchanged thoughts. I wonder if I should put mustard on my pastrami sandwich.

 

[freekobe0832]

Pondering my thoughts today :thinking: I wonder if CWW and JR could ever do time together again behind bars....same way they met each other. I wonder if CWW could possibly have known way back when all this could fall on him because being with the victims family 1,000 miles away is an awesome alibi for MS. I wonder if any of the people that have been assigned initials on this forum have met up at Hubs Pub & Grill and shared a beer and exchanged thoughts. I wonder if I should put mustard on my pastrami sandwich.

All great thoughts. That's pretty interesting to think about if all of the people with initials have been in contact, and their thoughts on it all.

And mustard ALWAYS!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

There are several pages within this doc dump that show everything that was in CWW's wallet. There are 4 or 5 l credit cards among the items. Some in the name of Curtis Wright and others in the name of Wayne Wright.

Sorry but I don't know where in the batch I saw these.

 

[DaleTray]

Thank you LB.
Did you all notice that he returned the rental car back in at 4:34 pm Sunday the 30th? I think Missouri is behind EST by an hour, ? so it would be 5:34 in Florida...is that right without me checking?

The case calendar (Again, thank you Scout) http://www.brownbearsw.com/cal/sieve...2015%2F06%2F01shows the car being returned at 4:34 CST Tues 6/30/15. Death on 6/28/15 Long drive from FL to MO 6/29/15 Car return 6/30/15
You are correct FL (EST) is one hour behind MO (CST)

 

[Dmacky]

The case calendar (Again, thank you Scout) http://www.brownbearsw.com/cal/sieve...2015%2F06%2F01shows the car being returned at 4:34 CST Tues 6/30/15. Death on 6/28/15 Long drive from FL to MO 6/29/15 Car return 6/30/15
You are correct FL (EST) is one hour behind MO (CST)

LOL OOPs !! I have my days and months mixed up...:blush: In "my mind" I was thinking ...IDK what I was thinking :blush:
Thank you for pointing it out though, it saves a lot more people from seeing it :couch:

I deleted my stupid post...thanks again

 

[KALI]

I was wondering, with so many senseless murders daily, what was it about this one that had me so upset?
Tonight it came to me.

Three men (IMO) got together to plot and plan this murder in a most horrific way, a young, loving, hard working, Mother and wife in her own home.

Many of these plans being done and prepared and discussed with her being nearby. No stranger danger here. Right up close and personal.

Ultimately stealing her life, from her children, patients and many loved ones. With reason being money.

The betrayal here is beyond imagination.

I sure do hope that our legal system prevails with justice for ALL involved.

What a horrible, horrible crime this is.

 

[Lilibet]

The case calendar (Again, thank you Scout) http://www.brownbearsw.com/cal/sieve...2015%2F06%2F01shows the car being returned at 4:34 CST Tues 6/30/15. Death on 6/28/15 Long drive from FL to MO 6/29/15 Car return 6/30/15
You are correct FL (EST) is one hour behind MO (CST)

BBM

Just for the record, I think you meant that MO is one hour behind FL, as Dmacky said. In other words, it turns 5:34 in FL while it is still 4:34 in MO, so MO is behind and FL is ahead. People get so confused, so I just wanted to clarify the terminology.

Here on the west coast, we are three hours behind FL and two hours behind MO. I'll leave Alaska and Hawaii out of it. And don't get me started on AZ when they appear to switch from MST to PDT because they don't do daylight savings time (except on the Navajo reservation, so if you live on the res and work in Page, AZ you'll be all messed up!). Is everyone up to speed now? LOL

 

[DaleTray]

I finally found 2 uninterrupted hrs to view pics. So many thoughts running in so many directions. So many of my thoughts are probably best to remain in my head rather than online, so I will jut say...."Wow"
I now want to say thank you to my parents for all they have provided me in life.

 

[No it's not]

There are several pages within this doc dump that show everything that was in CWW's wallet. There are 4 or 5 l credit cards among the items. Some in the name of Curtis Wright and others in the name of Wayne Wright.

Sorry but I don't know where in the batch I saw these.

That's one of those things, where the docs are in no chronological order. These CWW cards appear in the very end of DR P's photos of his car and himself:

 

[Matlacha]

I don't think I could deal with that smug jerk riding his Schwin through the neighborhood. What a loser.

No worries. Car drivers injure and kill cyclists quite frequently, but are seldom found guilty of a crime, even when their defense is that they fell asleep at the wheel.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I don't think I could deal with that smug jerk riding his Schwin through the neighborhood. What a loser.

I wonder how visible MS has been since these last crime scene photos were released? Personally, I couldn't deal with seeing this you know what in person!

Where are the girls when MS is out joyriding on his bike? Alone in the murder house?

I wish every single day that this whole investigation will come to an end and we see MS hauled away in handcuffs!

MOO

 

[DexterMorgan]

I was wondering, with so many senseless murders daily, what was it about this one that had me so upset?
Tonight it came to me.

Three men (IMO) got together to plot and plan this murder in a most horrific way, a young, loving, hard working, Mother and wife in her own home.

Many of these plans being done and prepared and discussed with her being nearby. No stranger danger here. Right up close and personal.

Ultimately stealing her life, from her children, patients and many loved ones. With reason being money.

The betrayal here is beyond imagination.

I sure do hope that our legal system prevails with justice for ALL involved.

What a horrible, horrible crime this is.

Let's add some more to this list if you don't mind.

1)MS having Cww staying with TS family during the funeral

2) MS allowing Cww to kiss and hug his kids at the funeral

3) MS blames mom for forgetting to reset the alarm

4) MS being willing to send mom to discover the body before opting to send the trusty doc friend

5) MS allowing the million dollar fund me the next day

6) MS stating the swinging style relationship while being the only one cheating and sending pics

7) MS using her money to do his cheating

8) MS using her money to have her killed

9) MS hiring the 2 dumbest killers in history

10) The 2 killers advertising to the whole state that they were going to be in Florida to do a job for MS.

 

[mikeinmo]

That's one of those things, where the docs are in no chronological order. These CWW cards appear in the very end of DR P's photos of his car and himself:

strange he has a Darden card is not one within 20 miles of his trailer

 

[MsArk]

I'm still not convinced there wasn't something hinky about the cards CWW had in his wallet. I suppose we will just have to wait on see if my hunch has any merit.

 

[human]

Why doesn't Mark move with the girls to MO where he has his condo and lots and lots of friends? Why does he stay in that house in Florida?

It appears friends are not in Florida.