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[Cymbaline]

O/T
I'm at the Cheesecake Factory with my boyfriend and he is threatening to take my iPhone away.

:shame:

 

[Zuri]

O/T
I'm at the Cheesecake Factory with my boyfriend and he is threatening to take my iPhone away.

:shame:

Tell him we said "Hey"!!!!

 

[Cymbaline]

Verrrrry interesting....

 

[CoolJ]

Been gone for awhile. Is there a reason folks are now attacking the integrity of LS? Just don't like or believe in energy healing? What is it?

 

[Frigga]

Yep, great work! It's because of these connections:

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Flor...healing-from-the-inside-out-llc/67650434.aspx

and:

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Estero/mark-d-sievers-P2197663.aspx

-Nin

Would M P have had to agree to this or even know about it?

Why was there a going away party for her moving to Indiana not long after a recommitment ceremony? That was odd? There must be a good reason why her interview has been held back.

 

[Cymbaline]

Been gone for awhile. Is there a reason folks are now attacking the integrity of LS? Just don't like or believe in energy healing? What is it?

LS herself defines Energy Healing as a "reading" and "It is recommended to see a licensed physician or other licensed health care professionals for any physical or psychological ailments."

It is in the consent form.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Been gone for awhile. Is there a reason folks are now attacking the integrity of LS? Just don't like or believe in energy healing? What is it?

Listen to her interviews and see if you pick up on anything.

 

[mikeinmo]

Question: Does CWW have phone privileges with AW?

http://www.sheriffleefl.org/main/index.php?r=faqs/index&cat=2&id=7

apparently yes

 

[CoolJ]

Listen to her interviews and see if you pick up on anything.

I listened to her interviews. Didnt pick up on anything that would make me want to attack her character. I don't think people understand what she does.

 

[Frigga]

I don't think anyone is 'attacking' her. We have been discussing her, our feelings, suspicions and thoughts about her in this case. SMS has made it clear there are others involved- we are looking at all angles- especially the ones that are beginning to stand out. HTH!

 

[atthelake]

Verrrrry interesting....

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What were SMS words...? iirc something like.. " we are looking at folks ..or... our investigation has led us to look - from the inside out and outside in"

ETA found it ! September 1st Nancy Grace Interview was one instance http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1509/01/ng.01.html

SCOTT: Well, I`m not able to say that with certainty, no. You know, anybody, as you know, that`s within the general envelope, particularly in -- you work from the inside out. . And so when we start to talk about family members, close friends, business associates -- and I`m speaking generally now, but it could be applied to this case, as well -- sort of working from the inside out, that general envelope of initial suspicion is one that`s fairly broad.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I am getting to the point where I am seriously outraged that AW has not been arrested with being an accessory after the fact for her lies to law enforcement in an effort to help CWW avoid punishment or (initially) arrest. I think more than enough time has passed to charge her with this very serious crime. I don't care that she was his wife. I don't care that she lost children in the past. Listen to those interviews. All of them. She is lying and there are enough people willing to testify to that fact including her own family members. How disgusting that having lost children she would be willing to lie for someone who stripped children of their mother. How outrageous that she would put her mother and her family members in the terrible positions she has put them in because of her choice to cover for a man charged with a brutal, brutal murder. Where is the state attorney on this? Enough already. There are too many people currently walking free that played a VERY significant role in this murder.

I tend to disagree with you on this. It's clear AW lied up a storm in that interview and LE is on record telling her they know she is lying.

It's better to let her sit and stew, wondering what will happen to her. Given enough time, she may be convinced that the truth, given to the prosecution on the stand at trial would be better than doing a hefty stint in jail.

Let's remember, AW gave her statement to a Florida LE and it was a sworn statement in a murder trial.

For perjury occurring as part of an official proceeding, state laws permit the prosecutor to pursue a third degree felony charge. Upon conviction, the defendant may receive a sentence of imprisonment for up to five years, a fine in an amount up to $5,000, or both.l
If the defendant committed perjury during legal proceedings for a capital felony -- for which a conviction results in the death penalty or life imprisonment without parole -- Florida laws require prosecution of the offense as a second degree felony, which can result in a sentence of imprisonment for up to fifteen years, a fine in an amount up to $10,000, or both. - See more at: http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-perjury-laws.html#sthash.nN042qvh.dpuf

BBM

ETA: Couldn't she be prosecuted for obstruction?

 

[No it's not]

Would M P have had to agree to this or even know about it?

Why was there a going away party for her moving to Indiana not long after a recommitment ceremony? That was odd? There must be a good reason why her interview has been held back.

Since we are not allowed to sleuth anyone not named a suspect at this time outside their interviews, and since we have not been privy (yet) to any interview with MP, I do not feel comfortable posting information. There is however mentioning of MP in TS' website here, and that tidbit has been mentioned before. So I am just repeating it:

http://www.drteresasievers.com/apex.php#.VsCGnZUVGzk

-Nin

 

[KateB]

And when Restorative Health & Healing Center closed its doors it was a massage establishment.

It's so sad.

The license for RHHC was issued in 2014 as a massage establishment, as well. Was it unlicensed or inactive from 2009-2014?

 

[JolietJake]

Lenka was a big part of TS's inner circle, as were others. As we dig through, share information, personal experiences, theories and so on, we can't help but form opinions in this case like this that's so full of intricacies. The tentacles in this case reach out in many directions and as we digest all the information out there we are trying to understand the mind set of all the players to formulate reasons why this tragic event occurred and who was involved.

On another note, this may be a stretch but I used to get emailings from TS about her seminars. I never attended one but I did notice that in some of the invitations that, at times, she had financial speakers. I thought that was odd for a medical seminar but in her mind it was an important part of one's well being and I can't disagree. With all the theories thrown out there about the financial part of her business I wondered if by interacting with financial people she got advice and took stock in her own finances, perhaps discovering or at least suspecting some of MS's mismanagement, ineptness, and perhaps wrongdoings. Maybe she thought it was time to clean house of some of those around her, including MS, in order to get things in place for new ventures. Not being an insider this is a theory at best but being a business person all my life I can understand where she could have been coming from in this sense. Just a thought.

 

[beach]

Lenka was a big part of TS's inner circle, as were others. As we dig through, share information, personal experiences, theories and so on, we can't help but form opinions in this case like this that's so full of intricacies. The tentacles in this case reach out in many directions and as we digest all the information out there we are trying to understand the mind set of all the players to formulate reasons why this tragic event occurred and who was involved.

On another note, this may be a stretch but I used to get emailings from TS about her seminars. I never attended one but I did notice that in some of the invitations that, at times, she had financial speakers. I thought that was odd for a medical seminar but in her mind it was an important part of one's well being and I can't disagree. With all the theories thrown out there about the financial part of her business I wondered if by interacting with financial people she got advice and took stock in her own finances, perhaps discovering or at least suspecting some of MS's mismanagement, ineptness, and perhaps wrongdoings. Maybe she thought it was time to clean house of some of those around her, including MS, in order to get things in place for new ventures. Not being an insider this is a theory at best but being a business person all my life I can understand where she could have been coming from in this sense. Just a thought.

<respectfully bold by me for emphasis>

This is actually one of the most interesting angles to me.

Joyful Health & Wealth, LLC

This LLC is now dissolved. It has been a while since I sleuthed this angle but I recall the date it was dissolved was interesting for some reason.

https://www.facebook.com/PelicanWealthAdvisorsLLC/posts/674919672638622

http://myemail.constantcontact.com/R-I-P----Dr--Teresa-Sievers.html?soid=1111749662987&aid=gDyld4ZRdRo

Also, of note, Mark gave the insurance companies authority to communicate with Pelican Bay on his behalf when he was attempting to collect life insurance proceeds shortly after Teresa's death. (There is documentation in the first batch of discovery. I believe it was Batch 1) Mark obviously still trusts this man very much. That is probably why my hinky meter was blaring because his circle of confidants is very limited right now.

 

[CoolJ]

I think, for the most part, most posters here are keying in on the wrong groups of people as being dishonest and manipulative. I would heed the words of SMS and "don't rush to judgement" regarding the character of the folks being talked about here. Still a lot more to come. We haven't even scratched the surface of what this case is truly about. JMO

 

[KateB]

Here's a link to a "Power Trio" press release on Naples Daily News from Feb 2014 that is on many different websites.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/fina...oach-mary-lynn-ziemer-form--ep-341414851.html

 

[beach]

I don't think anyone is 'attacking' her. We have been discussing her, our feelings, suspicions and thoughts about her in this case. SMS has made it clear there are others involved- we are looking at all angles- especially the ones that are beginning to stand out. HTH!

This. I am keeping a very close watch on what is posted about Lenka. Since we now have access to her audio interviews, members are free to express their opinions/interpretations, etc... Considering her very close connections to TS, MS and others, as well as not just the info she discloses, but her tone, etc....I do understand why she is so polarizing and, therefore, evoke strong reactions.

I think, for the most part, most posters here are keying in on the wrong groups of people as being dishonest and manipulative. I would heed the words of SMS and "don't rush to judgement" regarding the character of the folks being talked about here. Still a lot more to come. We haven't even scratched the surface of what this case is truly about. JMO

All that said above, I used to be on the fence about Lenka. Now I'm on a big ol rocking seesaw. One day I feel she is in deep - thick as thieves with MS. The next day, I wake up feeling she may be yet another person who was manipulated by him.

That is why I have said almost nothing about her. I'm just compiling info and filing it away. One of the things that bothers me most is how she was too busy & wouldn't make time to come to LCSO to give a formal statement/interview but she was eager to accommodate ABC's Good Morning America's request. And she LOUDLY argues with AL when Annie relays to her LE advises them all to not accommodate the press. She even argues with the detective on the phone accusing him of "insulting her intelligence" regarding their request to refrain from giving the interviews. Her priorities disturb me greatly. Doesn't make her guilty of any conspiracy but it does shed light about the order of her priorities.

 

[Wow]

This. I am keeping a very close watch on what is posted about Lenka. Since we now have access to her audio interviews, members are free to express their opinions/interpretations, etc... Considering her very close connections to TS, MS and others, as well as not just the info she discloses, but her tone, etc....I do understand why she is so polarizing and, therefore, evoke strong reactions.



All that said above, I used to be on the fence about Lenka. Now I'm on a big ol rocking seesaw. One day I feel she is in deep - thick as thieves with MS. The next day, I wake up feeling she may be yet another person who was manipulated by him.

That is why I have said almost nothing about her. I'm just compiling info and filing it away. One of the things that bothers me most is how she was too busy & wouldn't make time to come to LCSO to give a formal statement/interview but she was eager to accommodate ABC's Good Morning America's request. And she LOUDLY argues with AL when Annie relays to her LE advises them all to not accommodate the press. She even argues with the detective on the phone accusing him of "insulting her intelligence" regarding their request to refrain from giving the interviews. Her priorities disturb me greatly. Doesn't make her guilty of any conspiracy but it does shed light about the order of her priorities.

I am right there with you on this!