Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #11

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  • #201
Woah! From everything I have heard about these two girls from their Principal to their friends...NO ONE has EVER said they were anything like that!! Just the opposite actually!

Do not put all girls in that age frame into one basket!! My DD certainly did no such thing either!! (I know this to be a fact.) Just because some people do not raise their children with the decorum to associate properly in public or private does not mean all children act like heathens due to their age group or peers!

You have nothing to base it on that either girl would go into "flirt mode" or "cussing, ranting, flipping off mode"!!
And you have nothing to prove they didn't
And I never said they DID, I just said THEY MIGHT HAVE started screaming or told someone to go flip off if some creep approached them and demanded something from them!
Innocent flirting (hair flipping etc) only applies to things they might do with boys that are their peers and I see girls Taylor's age doing it EVERY DAY - they also scream like banshees and go EWWWWW if a boy so much as gets close - its cute and sweet and harmless
Pure speculation based on my own observation - your mileage may vary - which I clearly said.

And aren't children taught to be wary of strangers and be loud and rude and uncooperative to strangers approaching them? Should kids then be quiet and polite if some strange person approaches and just do what he/she says??

My Opinion
 
  • #202
The people at the bridge should have heard them as the wind was blowing fiercely towards them. This was the reason the grandparents didn't hear the shots.

However, I believe it was neighbors down the road who said the heard the shots.

No, I don't think that anyone saw the actual shooting take place unless LE is protecting the witness by not releasing that information. Under the circumstances, it would make perfect sense for LE to do that tho. There is a cold blooded killer/killers still out there and would think nothing of taking out a witness or two...again.
 
  • #203
Or maybe they had silencers on them which would muffle the sound.
Again, they have at least two witnesses who state they DID hear the shots being fired.
 
  • #204
Christine2448 gave us this link
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/ominous-warning.html

This is the bottom part of article...
In regard to the current status of the investigation, Brown said:
"We are still running leads, interviewing people, polygraphing people [and] doing everything humanly possible. We have had more than 450 leads since the beginning of the investigation and we are in the process of running those down. We have more than half of that finished; it just takes time so we are going to continue doing that until it takes us to the killers."
Since the beginning of the investigation, there has been speculation about whether the two girls had been sexually assaulted prior to their death. Brown said that the OSBI has information pertaining to that but was unable to release it.
According to Brown, the case is solvable; investigators just need the right leads to come in and the right people to come forward with information.
"There are a lot of people that are scared to talk to law enforcement down there so they have to start doing that," Brown said. "It is going to be solved by law enforcement but law enforcement is going to have to have help from the public. Because it was such a remote area, everyone knows each other in that area. A person who would drive on this particular road would have to know how to get there. You or I wouldn't be able to get there. I have been there once but I guarantee you I couldn't get there again. Someone knows something [and] it is a matter of them coming forward and then we can build our case."
 
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...According to Brown, the case is solvable; investigators just need the right leads to come in and the right people to come forward with information....

100% of all cases would be solved if this always happened.
 
  • #207
The Kelough woman and her son heard the shots that were fired. Wind was blowing strongely that day, out of the south. Kelough was little over a mile NW
 
  • #208
FlowerChild, I don't think you are to far off.
 
  • #209
Good Evening, I didn't realize these are all old posts from eariler in the day. I'm ready to call it a night myself.
 
  • #210
Good Evening, I didn't realize these are all old posts from eariler in the day. I'm ready to call it a night myself.
Would you happen to be another poster from Topix by any chance?
 
  • #211
Lifesaver!! Before you go to bed...could you explain what you meant in your first post about investigating the Freelance person?!
 
  • #212
The kids 12-15 in my neighborhood are all good kids with educated, well-off parents but....

They all go thru a phase where they delight in telling everyone (including adults) to f-off and yell the f-word (and other really nasty things) so loud I can hear every word inside my house with the AC on and the windows closed and where they flip off drivers who have the audacity to drive down the street and interrupt their skateboarding, hanging out - whatever they are doing in the middle of the street.

When I see the girls I think of sweet Skyla and Taylor with their clubhouse and posters - being in that age between child and adult where one minute they seem 10 years old and the next 20. Where they play Barbie one minute and flip their hair and flirt with boys the next. They are so cute and yet so infuriatingly unpredictable. They want the boys to pay attention and then don't have a clue what to do when they DO pay attention, so they RUN like rabbits screaming like they are starring in a horror movie. And oh my the language they use - if a boy manages to get within 5 feet, sailors would blush at the language that pours out of these sweet little girls...with a rapid fire response from the boys, once they reach a safe distance - often accompanied with the rude "gang-cool" hand gestures. Ahh, as bad as it is, "turn around and they're 16" - once they hit 16 and get the car they are gone and the neighborhood seems too quiet for a while.

I still have to do a double take sometimes at the language - and their parents just shrug as if they can't stop their kids (who are right there) from telling their neighbor to f-off --- loudly, if he asks them to refrain from hitting tennis balls into his garage door.

NOTHING a girl (or boy) can do or say warrants A violent response, (like SHOOTING them) but I can see a scenario where a disturbed, wound-too tight, 🤬🤬🤬 "adult" might get angry at a sweet looking young girl when she starts the high pitch screaming or using foul language or rude gestures.

My Opinion

Oh my goodness, Flower! If the children in my neighborhood acted like that, I'd move!

My girls are 11 and 13. They don't cuss and flirt and hang out in the street. They like boys of course, and giggle about them with their other little girl friends. They get after me for my language if I say the word "crap". They have been in the car with me when we've seen older kids loitering in the street, refusing to move for vehicles, and they've remarked at how rude those kids' behavior is.

I think my girls are pretty normal for their age. If someone approached them when they were alone on a country road ( which they wouldn't be) they would head the other way fast and probably be on the phone to me in a split second. Kids are quick on the draw with those phones!

Susan
 
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Oh my goodness, Flower! If the children in my neighborhood acted like that, I'd move!

My girls are 11 and 13. They don't cuss and flirt and hang out in the street. They like boys of course, and giggle about them with their other little girl friends. They get after me for my language if I say the word "crap". They have been in the car with me when we've seen older kids loitering in the street, refusing to move for vehicles, and they've remarked at how rude those kids' behavior is.

I think my girls are pretty normal for their age. If someone approached them when they were alone on a country road ( which they wouldn't be) they would head the other way fast and probably be on the phone to me in a split second. Kids are quick on the draw with those phones!

Susan

I live where there are many young female teens in my neighborhood. I have never seen even one of them act crass and inappropriate. In fact the young teenage boys act the same. They always smile, wave, speak or stop to talk when they see any of the neighbors out.

I just don't see Skyla and Taylor as one of those bold and tough, vulgar talking girls. I think they were busy being the best of friends and were very happy well adjusted children who have been taught to have respect and manners.

imoo
 
  • #215
I live where there are many young female teens in my neighborhood. I have never seen even one of them act crass and inappropriate. In fact the young teenage boys act the same. They always smile, wave, speak or stop to talk when they see any of the neighbors out.

I just don't see Skyla and Taylor as one of those bold and tough, vulgar talking girls. I think they were busy being the best of friends and were very happy well adjusted children who have been taught to have respect and manners.

imoo

ITA OBE! I have seen plenty of skeezy girls at my son's high school. But here in our "hood," no such thing. I don't think it's fair to generalize about teens in any way here. And I definitely do not want this thread to take a turn that will villianize these girls. They were 11 and 13 - IMO - anything they saw or did didn't warrant what happened to them.
 
  • #216
Oh my goodness, Flower! If the children in my neighborhood acted like that, I'd move!

My girls are 11 and 13. They don't cuss and flirt and hang out in the street. They like boys of course, and giggle about them with their other little girl friends. They get after me for my language if I say the word "crap". They have been in the car with me when we've seen older kids loitering in the street, refusing to move for vehicles, and they've remarked at how rude those kids' behavior is.

I think my girls are pretty normal for their age. If someone approached them when they were alone on a country road ( which they wouldn't be) they would head the other way fast and probably be on the phone to me in a split second. Kids are quick on the draw with those phones!

Susan
Well, Thank Goodness...people experience children at appropriate ages still! I believe that these girls were among those children.
 
  • #217
Please read my post, I never said Taylor or Skyla was crass, rude, flirting or anything of the sort! I said that if some creep thought the girls took something of his and he approached them on the road and trapped them with his vehicle and got out and approached them they MIGHT have told him to f-off or screamed or pulled out their phone - which MAY have caused the 🤬🤬🤬 to over-react and SHOOT THEM.

Taylor was a wonderful, loving, outgoing, smart, sweet child. I am also pretty sure, based on her family, that she was around some "adult language" at times. I think it is quite possible that IF they were confronted Taylor (the oldest and biggest of the two) might have stepped forward, pulled out her phone and been loud and assertive to try to get away or get help - or at least protect Skyla. Why is that a "bad" thing? Sweet and polite is wonderful in Sunday School, but not so much when a crazy man or a pervert confronts you and there is no adult nearby.

I live in a very very nice neighborhood, no crime, no drugs, one of the best schools in the US, income way above average. I don't use the language some of the kids use in front of MY parents, elders or authority figures to this day, but I do (and did at their age) use it with my peers - at least those I know won't be offended. The kids all begin to mature and grow up eventually - usually beginning at about age 16. I am not worried that they will "go bad" - even if I do find them annoying at say 14 - I miss them when they go off to college - by then, they are polite, well spoken, respectful and great young people. The f-words and smart aleck shenanigans don't seem to permanently mar them, any more than they did me, LOL.

Anyway, I was one of those 11 - and 13 year old girls once and I KNOW they can be smart aleck, full of themselves, and take crazy chances one minute and shy, sweet, and afraid of the dark the next. 11 and 13 year olds are always gonna be caught on the cusp of womanhood - with all the confusion and turmoil that entails. The best, most ideal, most perfect parents on the planet cannot stop an 11 year old from being 11, or a 13 year old from being 13. Nothing can stop biology or puberty - it's a force beyond our control, we just have to be the best parents we can be and guide our kids the best we can - which Taylor and Skyla's parents were doing. NOTHING they or the girls did caused the girls to be murdered...NOTHING!

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  • #218
I guess that is where we differ, I cannot imagine those two resorting to such tactics. I think they did exactly as they were told when someone held a gun to them. I think also that it was a surprise. I do not have a doubt they were shot at close range, like OSBI intimated they were. I will believe the grandmother's recollection of the bullets since she saw them right after they happened. This would preclude anything we might come up with or what LE says. Everyone keeps trying to tell me that she didn't see what she saw...and I think that is rubbish. She saw what she reported to the media.
 
  • #219
I guess that is where you differ, I cannot imagine those two resulting to such tactics. I think they did exactly as they were told when someone held a gun to them. I think also that it was a surprise. I do not have a doubt they were shot at close range, like OSBI intimated they were. I will believe the grandmother's recollection of the bullets since she saw them right after they happened. This would preclude anything we might come up with or what LE says. Everyone keeps trying to tell me that she didn't see what she saw...and I think that is rubbish. She saw what she reported to the media.

Good post. It seems the more posters speculate, the more rumors this case gets.
 
  • #220
Good post. It seems the more posters speculate, the more rumors this case gets.
I think that the crime scene is that matter of fact...I do not think solving this case is.
 
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