Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #12

[sweetheart29]

On this site you posted, it says, COMMENTS by Rose at Glenpool PD. Glenpool is a little town just south of Tulsa on hwy 75, which goes to Henryetta, and through Weleetka

Yes, old highway 75 goes straight thru weleetka, then wetumka. But in Henryetta, they built the Indian Nations Turnpike when I was very young, and this is a newer route for 75.

I see now. Some reason I always thought the turnpike was hwy 75.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yeah, true ocean, sometimes 'chest pounders' say a little toooooo much

How fortunate for us sometimes, huh?

I sure hope he does know what he is talking about. Imo this is not the typical absconded SO arrested ......this man is a dead ringer for the POI in this case.

imoo

 

[hannahsnana]

Maybe he's just as eager to see this crime solved as we are, and maybe he doesn't know about Websleuths, only Topix. And yes, tribal police are an entity of their own, and don't have a relationship to local LE other than what they offer.

 

[FlowerChild]

Lycy's mom, that makes a little more sense. They were probably assisting because of it being on tribally owned land.

They HAVE to assist on tribal lands - even if OSBI is the agency in charge, on tribal lands they MUST coordinate with Tribal LE. Tribal LE is not the same as OSBI and they have different "rules". Since this suspect is a RSO who is unregistered nothing is "private" - including the details of his arrest. All public record. The Officer giving this info has not revealed anything that is not available in PUBLIC records - NOTHING is private in the case of a level 3 sex offender.

Nothing germaine to the case has been leaked except that OSBI wishes to question this person in relation to the Weleetka case. OSBI has questioned and polygraphed 100's of people so far. Obviously NONE of those people have been arrested in association with the case - Byrd hasn't been arrested in relation to the case either, they just wanna talk to him.

Details of an arrest will not damage a case so long ast there were grounds - and in the case of an currently unregistered level 3 SO - they already have all the grounds they need.

My Opinion

 

[hannahsnana]

FlowerChild, you are right, tribal police have jurisdiction on tribally owned land, not local LE. You made me feel a little better about him giving out information.

 

[YellowDog]

Here ya go!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=244&pictureid=2740

You must be a Photoshop expert!. That does look much more like the drawing.

 

[evelyn24]

http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/Operation-FALCON-Targets-Oklahomas-Violent-Offenders/1$42341

This story is about a sweep that happened last month, and this operation is four years old and seems to target violent fugitives.
I'm not sure William Byrd would be on their list when you look at who they are targeting. The man we are talking about isn't what I would consider a dangerous fugitive, at least not yet.
And considering he just recently failed to update his address on the SO registry when he moved to his mom's place (according to the poster on Topix), I doubt he was a target of 'Operation Falcon.'

 

[LifeSaver]

I'm not sure about all tribes, but Weleetka and surrounding areas are Creek Indian, and their tribal police are referred to as LightHorseman

 

[LifeSaver]

What adjustments do I need to make to stop getting mail from here

 

[evelyn24]

What adjustments do I need to make to stop getting mail from here

Go to your "USER CP" at the top left of your page, then on the left column and you'll see a link to "EDIT OPTIONS"

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

I don't have a link for it, but her grandfather stated in an interview that she slept in a sleeping bag and I believe he said "in front of the TV". I was just wondering if this was a temporary arrangement or if she slept there all the time. For some reason, it just struck me as strange.

YD, I agree with YOU that it is strange. I think everything detail could be important. I am not trying to belittle the family; that perhaps they are poor and couldn't afford a bed for Taylor. I feel that this could be important because if she did have a bed and chose to sleep on the floor, WHY. Did she not want to be "disturbed" in her bed. Was she afraid to sleep in her bed for some reason? I am trying to think outside the box and to me this could be very important and telling information. Could also be nothing.

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

I do know that Native Americans are allowed to keep their hair long while they are in prison, although there has been some controversy over this recently. His hair is tucked in. If he put it over his ears with the cap on to further hide his features, it looks like him.

To my way of thinking, if mugshot #1 is the first one you see while searching, it's no wonder that nobody picked him out earlier. Click back to photo #1 to see what I'm saying.

http://docapp8.doc.state.ok.us/serv...0&offender_id=28318&county=osage&imageindex=1

I think his hair could be long in these photos because in the orange jumpsuit with the collar his hair is obviously tucked in but if you look at #7 where he is facing right, his hair is kind of bubbling out a little and if you look closely at his back it looks like there is a bump going down his back. A ponytail??? I think both of the mugshots have his hair tucked into his shirt, so we have no idea how long his hair really is.
never mind, still catching up on the posts and I see Tomsgirl already pointed the "bulge" out.

 

[christine2448]

NOTE. I noticed while catching up in the previous thread posts there have been posts brought in their ENTIRETY from TOPIX. This is NOT allowed UNLESS you have permission from poster whom you are copying. What you CAN do is bring a snip then link to post, that we will allow. (good stuff found and brought over btw )

 

[Lucy's mom]

NOTE. I noticed while catching up in the previous thread posts there have been posts brought in their ENTIRETY from TOPIX. This is NOT allowed UNLESS you have permission from poster whom you are copying. What you CAN do is bring a snip then link to post, that we will allow. (good stuff found and brought over btw )

That would be me. I'm so sorry! I had no idea!
:bang:

I must say, you mods are on it!!! :blowkiss:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

YD, I agree with YOU that it is strange. I think everything detail could be important. I am not trying to belittle the family; that perhaps they are poor and couldn't afford a bed for Taylor. I feel that this could be important because if she did have a bed and chose to sleep on the floor, WHY. Did she not want to be "disturbed" in her bed. Was she afraid to sleep in her bed for some reason? I am trying to think outside the box and to me this could be very important and telling information. Could also be nothing.

:waitasec:It wasn't Taylor.

It was Skyla's father William that said that.


"William says the most painful part is at home, "I get up in the morning. I'll look over where she slept. All curled up in a sleeping bag part of the time where she would watch TV all night. She's not there, she's not there," says William."

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ddb1b5c5-7321-4363-b24b-258807374579

It sounds like at times she fell asleep while watching tv like a lot of kids do.



imoo

 

[FlowerChild]

Native American History in Oklahoma - A Quick Review

The 5 Civilized Tribes brought to Oklahoma Territory on the Trail Of Tears are Choctaw, Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw and Seminole

Unlike AZ and NM (home of the Navajo Nation and other Pueblo and Cliff Dwellers) Ok does not have closed reservations - OK has "Tribal Lands". Official Tribal lands, 1st given to the tribes after the Trail OF Tears (and reduced and divided many times by the Govt since) MUST remain in the hands of only tribal members. The land or property cannot be sold or even given to a person who is not a tribal member. The land stays with Tribal members forever. Law Enforcement on official tribal lands is usually left to Tribal LE with assistance from Federal, State and Local LE.

Now there are MANY tribes in Oklahoma - and one of the largest is the Osage Tribe - who are the Southern branch of the Sioux Tribe.

Current NA Tribes in Oklahoma (Official List)
Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town
Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Caddo Nation of Oklahoma
Cherokee Nation
Cheyenne-Arapaho Tribes of Oklahoma
Chickamauga Cherokee Nation White River Band
Chickasaw Nation of Oklahoma
Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma
Potawatomi Nation
Comanche Tribe of Oklahoma
Delaware Tribe of Oklahoma
Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma
Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma
Kaw Tribe of Oklahoma
Kialegee Tribal Town
Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma
Kiowa Tribe
Miami Tribe of Oklahoma
Modoc Tribe of Oklahoma
Muscogee - (Creek) Nation
Natchez Nation
Osage Nation of Oklahoma
Otoe-Missouri Tribe
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma
Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma
Peoria Indian Tribe of Oklahoma
Ponca Tribe of Oklahoma
Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma
Sac & Fox Nation
Seminole Tribe of Oklahoma
Seneca-Cayuga Tribes of Oklahoma
Shawnee Tribe
Thlopthlocco Tribal Town
Tonkawa Tribe of Oklahoma
United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes
Wyandotte Nation of Oklahoma
Yuchi (Euchee) Tribe

Obviously it can become confusing and it is hard for people who did not grow up in OK to understand - but this is one reason why it may be extremely difficult to locate a POI who is NA - most of the state's natives (me included) have some NA blood and in some areas of OK 100% of the population is NA Tribal Members. Tribal lands usually are strikingly poor appearing areas - in part because homes must be built with cash because no Mortgage company will loan money to build a home on land they cannot repossess (NA Tribal Land cannot have a lien attached to it). I looked at the figures for the Graham School Skyla and Taylor Attended and over 60% of the students are classified as Native American.

Hope this gives a little insight....

My Opinion

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

:waitasec:It wasn't Taylor.

It was Skyla's father William that said that.


"William says the most painful part is at home, "I get up in the morning. I'll look over where she slept. All curled up in a sleeping bag part of the time where she would watch TV all night. She's not there, she's not there," says William."

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ddb1b5c5-7321-4363-b24b-258807374579

It sounds like at times she fell asleep while watching tv like a lot of kids do.



imoo

Thank you OBE Thank you :blowkiss:
I am no longer concerned. The father says she "part of the time". Crushing up theory and filing in "trash" .

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thank you OBE Thank you :blowkiss:
I am no longer concerned. The father says she "part of the time". Crushing up theory and filing in "trash" .

You're welcome.

It does get confusing sometimes.

I have to go back at times and re-read articles to make sure I have it right.

Well it seems they may have run off the Osage policeman over there. I hate when that happens when all we have to do is wait a day or two and see what happens concerning the absconded sex offender.

imoo

 

[Lucy's mom]

You're welcome.

It does get confusing sometimes.

I have to go back at times and re-read articles to make sure I have it right.

Well it seems they may have run off the Osage policeman over there. I hate when that happens when all we have to do is wait a day or two and see what happens concerning the absconded sex offender.

imoo

That website is something else! I see so many people on there trying to do good and help share questions and concerns over the killer of these two beautiful girls. And then you have a couple of rotten eggs who have to come in and spoil the whole thing. I just saw another post from someone blasting Sam. If it's not Roy their blasting it's Mary or Sam or W2C. I'm sure there's more but I can't keep up. So sad that they have to stoop so low when two girls were viciously murdered and most are trying to help. MHOO.

 

[evelyn24]

You're welcome.

It does get confusing sometimes.

I have to go back at times and re-read articles to make sure I have it right.

Well it seems they may have run off the Osage policeman over there. I hate when that happens when all we have to do is wait a day or two and see what happens concerning the absconded sex offender.

imoo

I know...errr.
Hopefully, we'll hear something soon.
Didn't he say (before he left), that Byrd was to meet with a judge today at
3pm CDT??