Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #12

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  • #381
Well hell, I really thought this would go somewhere ... :mad:
 
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  • #383
I really don't care about SM's personal webpage, he's an adult, the people posting on his webpage are adults, and none of that has anything to do with his information about the arrest of WB, or this case. Sorry, that's just my opinion.
I don't think it's necessary for the poster's on that forum to try and trash the man, because IMO it appears he was giving facts.
 
  • #384
Well hell, I really thought this would go somewhere ... :mad:

Me too! I have been reading forever trying to get caught up. WOW! Sounds like a lot of sleuthing for nothing?????

So disappointing.

:mad:
 
  • #385
Me too! I have been reading forever trying to get caught up. WOW! Sounds like a lot of sleuthing for nothing?????

So disappointing.

:mad:

Yeah! Sigh!
 
  • #386
Me too! I have been reading forever trying to get caught up. WOW! Sounds like a lot of sleuthing for nothing?????

So disappointing.

:mad:

It still could be something.
I really hope the tribal police guy SM comes back to Topix, and gives details of the hearing and the bond release.

I too was hoping for some justice, but it looks like that won't happen....yet.
 
  • #387
I really don't care about SM's personal webpage, he's an adult, the people posting on his webpage are adults, and none of that has anything to do with his information about the arrest of WB, or this case. Sorry, that's just my opinion.
I don't think it's necessary for the poster's on that forum to try and trash the man, because IMO it appears he was giving facts.

Well policeman have never been known for their softness anyway. He is probably is a tough cop. I saw it said he was in Swat Team Training so he is no Barney Fife type that is for sure.

All I know he was very honest about everything he shared.

imoo
 
  • #388
I'm going to pray that there was a reason they let him go, like an alibi or something, whether it be true or false; and that they will be keeping an eye on him. This cop was certainly interested or he wouldnt have shared it with Topix. Ya think?
 
  • #389
I'm going to pray that there was a reason they let him go, like an alibi or something, whether it be true or false; and that they will be keeping an eye on him. This cop was certainly interested or he wouldnt have shared it with Topix. Ya think?

I hope they are watching him; I'm sorry but the resemblance to the POI was just way too close for me to believe he isn't that person. I really need for something to start making sense. I have not slept well since this happened, just sickened by this crime and wanting this SOB caught so the family can have some peace. I've never been so affected by a crime in my life. Soooo sad and sooooo senseless.
 
  • #390
I hope they are watching him; I'm sorry but the resemblance to the POI was just way too close for me to believe he isn't that person. I really need for something to start making sense. I have not slept well since this happened, just sickened by this crime and wanting this SOB caught so the family can have some peace. I've never been so affected by a crime in my life. Soooo sad and sooooo senseless.
I do know how you feel CM. I have shed my own share of tears over this and I am sure I'm not through.
We need to remember that the poi is not necessarily the killer. Maybe this is why they let Mr Byrd go. Maybe he has information and is going to cooperate with LE. Maybe he had been sneaking because he was afraid to give this information, but now that they have found him to question, maybe he is cooperating.
All we have is maybe's.
I'm going to remember what Ms Brown said, "this IS solvable" or something very near to that.
We are just on the edge of our seats, wishing this horrible nightmare will be over, so we jump when we hear anything. I believe LE has to keep a lot to themselves so that they CAN solve this. We must just be patient.
And as for me, I'm going to continue praying.:)
 
  • #391
I don't see Byrd's "European" half in any of those mugshots. Are we supposed to overlook that statement from the witnesses and from LE? I don't think he looks anything like the sketch, imo. He is NA and has long hair...but where is the rest of it? His face isn't long and rather slender. His eyebrows are much different than the sketches. His eyes are decidedly dark brown.

I saw the artist sketch of one of the perps they caught and it was right on the money almost. On that one, the only difference was the sketch made him look older and the hair was a tiny bit off. The facial features were excellent tho.

This may not be about the same guy...but I have it on good authority that LE from several areas converged in that same area (Fairfax) recently because they had a tip of a meth lab...which turned out to be only one man and not the large one with lots of people they had been told about. Maybe they ran across this guy thinking he was part of the other situation.
 
  • #392
Byrd bonded out - that means a bail bond was given and his bail bondsman will keep him on a short leash. There is no way of knowing whether he has been questioned by OSBI or not - the JUDGE allowed him to post bail - has nothing to do with OSBI. OSBI didn't arrest him on their warrant and they have no way of forcing the county to keep him in jail on the failure to register unless they can show proof he is a suspect in the Weleetka case. Byrd can refuse to be questioned, polygraphed etc and once the Judge sets a bond in the OTHER matter, he is free to leave. Basically, it's all on a voluntary basis only without an arrest warrant being issued in the Weleetka case. The cops can't hold Byrd without something more than "he looks like the POI". OSBI can now go to Byrd and ask to question him - but without more, they cannot force him to undergo questioning - or make him do anything else - they would have to have grounds to make Byrd a SUSPECT in the Weleetka case and obviously at the moment there are no grounds.

OSBI now knows where Byrd is and they may even know IF he has a solid alibi for June 8th or not. He does look like the sketch, but as someone in the OK NA community has already said, there may be 10,000 men in OK who match the POI sketch - it could take a while to get thru them all unless somebody drops a dime on the right one. We all should continue to look for the POI everywhere.

My Opinion
 
  • #393
Good night all. Try to have sweet dreams.
 
  • #394
I'm back & what GREAT evening. I just love Glenn Beck live. He is great when he does his show.

back to the case at hand....what a let down. We just have to keep the faith.
 
  • #395
it's difficult for me to understand how some members do not see a resemblance...the sketch of the POI was constructed from the collective memory of passers-by on a rural dirt road. there has been no mention of witnesses having had any more than an observation as they drove by the truck & man stopped on the roadside. one would not expect it to be a guaranteed photo-perfect representation..... therefore, i believe byrd, the man detained today by the combined OK law enforcement "round-up", looks enough like the police sketch that he will be surveilled at least for the time being & possibly picked up to be questioned about the girls' murders....... i pray that answers will come soon to their families, friends & all those whose lives have been touched by their lives & deaths.... including my fellow sleuthers following this tragedy.
 
  • #396
Flower...where is the half "European" showing in that mugshot of Byrd? He does not match the sketch or the description, imo!

Sorry, No...but embossing doesn't make him "match". They did not allude in the description to the very dark skin which Byrd has or the eyes. If this were the case, they would have said so. The "European" comment would not have even come into play as they would have only said he was NA.
 
  • #397
Flower...where is the half "European" showing in that mugshot of Byrd? He does not match the sketch or the description, imo!

Sorry, No...but embossing doesn't make him "match". They did not allude in the description to the very dark skin which Byrd has or the eyes. If this were the case, they would have said so. The "European" comment would not have even come into play as they would have only said he was NA.
I guess I missed this "half European" that you are mentioning. Could you please enlighten me?:confused:
 
  • #398
Sure!

Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation

A. DeWade Langley
Director

Jessica Brown
Public Information Director

06/16/08 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Sketch Released in Weleetka Double Murder

The man is described as a Native American, possibly part Caucasian male, approximately 35 years old with a slender build and a long pony tail. He was seen standing next to a white pickup truck either a Ford or Chevy. The truck was a single cab with a narrow strip of chrome down the side. The truck had an Oklahoma license tag. This person was seen outside this truck parked in the middle of the dirt road near where the two girls were found. Witnesses say he was there only minutes before the gun shots were heard. OSBI hopes to find him to determine if he saw or heard anything in the area. If someone recognizes this person, have them call 1-800-635-8477.

http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/2008_Press_Releases/PR-2008-06-16_Sketch.html (Bolded by me)

Let me look up the descriptions which were changed to "European" tomorrow when I have more time as it is really late. The description changed from Caucasion to European tho.
 
  • #399
I don't see Byrd's "European" half in any of those mugshots. Are we supposed to overlook that statement from the witnesses and from LE? I don't think he looks anything like the sketch, imo. He is NA and has long hair...but where is the rest of it? His face isn't long and rather slender. His eyebrows are much different than the sketches. His eyes are decidedly dark brown.

I saw the artist sketch of one of the perps they caught and it was right on the money almost. On that one, the only difference was the sketch made him look older and the hair was a tiny bit off. The facial features were excellent tho.

This may not be about the same guy...but I have it on good authority that LE from several areas converged in that same area (Fairfax) recently because they had a tip of a meth lab...which turned out to be only one man and not the large one with lots of people they had been told about. Maybe they ran across this guy thinking he was part of the other situation.

I agree with he doesn't look that much like the sketch. His face is not long enough, chin is different, lips are not the same.
 
  • #400
I agree with he doesn't look that much like the sketch. His face is not long enough, chin is different, lips are not the same.
The sketch was drawn from the memory of someone who just drove past him, not by looking at a picture. I agree with most the other posters, I think it is an uncanny likeness, but then again, alot of people who are NA or part NA could fit that description, including my grandpa when he was young. Still, I feel like it is a close likeness.

Im gonna try again to go to bed. Sweet dreams.

PS SS IF you find that info about european, go ahead and post it. I would like to see it as I havent heard this before
 
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