Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #13

[oceanblueeyes]

Has anyone considered, this POI possibly meet or came to see P. and they had a very heated argument and the POI shot the girls when leaving due to what was said in the argument?....thus the 20 minute delay....jmo

If the Plackers just had someone at their home that was threatening I just cant fathom them not telling LE about that right away.

And in this neighborhood it seems a lot of people notices the going ons on that road. No one has mentioned that the Plackers had anyone at their home before or even when the girls left for their walk.

I think that the call was not made right away because Mr. Placker had two very important things happening almost simultaneously, to deal with. He had to deal with the horrible reality of who lay in that ditch murdered and almost immediately he had to try to comfort Skyla's mother and try to protect her from what he had seen, that he knew he would never forget.

imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Would ALL these casings be considered "high power"?
What is considered LOW power? other than a .22?

The 410 is a low power.

Althoough any of them can be lethal especially if fired at close range.

 

[Beyond Belief]

Wondering: if more description of the crime scene was given in the 911 phone call than LE wants known to the public.

 

[RoseRed]

Has anyone considered, this POI possibly meet or came to see P. and they had a very heated argument and the POI shot the girls when leaving due to what was said in the argument?....thus the 20 minute delay....jmo

I am not sure there was a 20 minute time delay. That has not been stated by LE.

 

[Claycat]

Look at the post of Elizabeth at the top of this page. She is talking about the Keloughs and the Plackers. It is very interesting info. I am providing the link, because you all said not to post the comments.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/weleetka-ok/TOJFJV92HAR4RS395/p326#lastPost

 

[little726]

"I can't describe coming up on it," Peter Placker said, sobbing uncontrollably, as he tried to remember walking up on the scene, only about one-quarter mile from his house. "I done it once and I can't do it again."

I don't know about anyone else, but this statement by P. Placker, has stuck in my head since day "1". I realize it must have been an awful thing for him to see, but you don't forget something like this.

And WHY dosen't he want to do it again, even though he said he couldn't? A few nights later he was talking to Greta, on; ON THE RECORD.

I still have my suspicions about P.Placker.

 

[athy]

the press conference could be for giving the new info...the giving out the excert of the 911 call could just sorta be thrown in there at same time because near the beginning so many were complaining, speculating, curious, suspicous because they WEREN'T playing the 911 call. and it seems others are now doing the same thing because they are going to play an excert.

 

[evelyn24]

There really isn't much to say about the presser, SS.
We discussed it some on the previous thread before you came on board last night.
However, until the actual presser happens, what's to say about it?

The media said the press conference was being held in order for the OSBI to give more details/information about the case, and to me that means what it says. I doubt there will be breaking news taking place on Monday.
The OSBI is not getting anywhere in finding the POI, and maybe new information will smoke him out...or at least have someone around him come foreword.
The 911 tape is a good way to get sympathy for the families and quilt someone into turning in the poi, and it's also a good way of getting a lot of national and local media attention back on the case.

 

[legallee]

"I can't describe coming up on it," Peter Placker said, sobbing uncontrollably, as he tried to remember walking up on the scene, only about one-quarter mile from his house. "I done it once and I can't do it again."

I don't know about anyone else, but this statement by P. Placker, has stuck in my head since day "1". I realize it must have been an awful thing for him to see, but you don't forget something like this.

And WHY dosen't he want to do it again, even though he said he couldn't? A few nights later he was talking to Greta, on; ON THE RECORD.

I still have my suspicions about P.Placker.

If you came upon your daughter dead from multiple gunshots would you wanna describe the scene over and over!? I'm sure he has told it many times to the Police. That has got to be one of the most painful things to ever see.. I'd be damned if I'd wanna tell the media over and over about it.

 

[legallee]

Look at the post of Elizabeth at the top of this page. She is talking about the Keloughs and the Plackers. It is very interesting info. I am providing the link, because you all said not to post the comments.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/weleetka-ok/TOJFJV92HAR4RS395/p326#lastPost

read Elizabeth Drumrins comments as well: Oh wow this is kinda scary!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/weleetka-ok/TOJFJV92HAR4RS395/p325#c7037

 

[Claycat]

Legallee, thanks for posting this one also! I think it is the same poster. I'm hoping she will come back!

read Elizabeth Drumrins comments as well: Oh wow this is kinda scary!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/weleetka-ok/TOJFJV92HAR4RS395/p325#c7037

 

[philamena]

"I can't describe coming up on it," Peter Placker said, sobbing uncontrollably, as he tried to remember walking up on the scene, only about one-quarter mile from his house. "I done it once and I can't do it again."
SNIP.

I still have my suspicions about P.Placker.

little,
I said the same thing when the girls were murdered.
I think there is a change a family member killed the girls. IMO, a stranger caught doing 'something' by the girls would have shot them once and ran or drove off.
These girls were shot numerous times, with vengeance.

 

[Albert18]

...These girls were shot numerous times, with vengeance.

I think over time the crime becomes too familiar to us and we tend to forget the intial shock.

This was an audacious crime. In fact it probably requires a word stronger than audacious. That has to mean something. But it apparently hasn't for 6 weeks now.

 

[little726]

If you came upon your daughter dead from multiple gunshots would you wanna describe the scene over and over!? I'm sure he has told it many times to the Police. That has got to be one of the most painful things to ever see.. I'd be damned if I'd wanna tell the media over and over about it.

This is only MY opinion......which we ALL have.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Monday can't come soon enough. (Can't believe I said that!) While you guys could be right and it is just from the pressure being put on OSBI to give the public "something" to show they are working on it, I guess I am hoping it is much more.

I have seen in several other cases, when they schedule a presser so far in advance...it is usually to allow the media (including national media) to be able to get people in place to report it. If they were just asking for help, I think they would simply issue a press release instead of doing it this way...but that is just me. I still think we are going to learn a lot from the presser.

 

[LifeSaver]

Yeah, We'll all see Jessica Brown show just how desperate the OSBI are releasing the 911 call, playing on familes, and communites emotions, pretty pathetic.

 

[Mysterylover]

I think over time the crime becomes too familiar to us and we tend to forget the intial shock.

This was an audacious crime.
In fact it probably requires a word stronger than audacious.

That has to mean something. But it apparently hasn't for 6 weeks now......

Albert...I like all your good, common sense posts, and usually agree.

YES, the over-kill does mean something and should be a clue to the "experts"..
imo a stranger would not have emptied one gun on the girls and then took the time to get the other gun and shoot them some more....that alone should narrow the direction of the killer....imo

 

[Mysterylover]

little,
I said the same thing when the girls were murdered.

I think there is a chance a family member killed the girls.

IMO, a stranger caught doing 'something' by the girls would have shot them once and ran or drove off.

These girls were shot numerous times, with vengeance...

What IF the 1 person who saw the girls that Sunday, is mistaken, and saw them on Saturday instead?

How would that change this whole case?...just thinking outside the box

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If you came upon your daughter dead from multiple gunshots would you wanna describe the scene over and over!? I'm sure he has told it many times to the Police. That has got to be one of the most painful things to ever see.. I'd be damned if I'd wanna tell the media over and over about it.

I guess it is one's perceptions and how they decipher the things they hear.

These words of Peter Placker were some of the most haunting words I have ever heard said.

I could feel his pain, knowing he had to go into great detail with LE on what he saw, that he never, ever in a million years wanted to see and how that was so difficult for him yet he knew he must do so.

But to go through that horrible nightmare again and go to that horrible place in his mind just to appease the media's curiosity he just couldn't go back there to that time and place.

I think we will be able to tell some of the evidence they may have just by the testing technology done if Brown describes some of the techniques used.

I don't think the PC is big news but it does let people in OK at least know that OSBI is still working diligently on this case.

imoo

 

[FlowerChild]

I got this from my contact in Weleetka - he says it is 2nd hand info but that he got it directly from a close friend of Rose Whitaker (Skyla's Mom)

Rose spoke to SKYLA shortly before she was killed on SKYLA's CELL PHONE. She told Skyla to get her things ready, she was on her way to get her.

This brings up more questions

What time was the call when Rose spoke with Skyla? (we know they were still alive at that time)

Did Rose tell Skyla a TIME when she would arrive? Like 5:30PM

Where was Skyla when Rose called her? At the Plackers or walking?

Was this call at around 4:30 when Skyla and Taylor went for their walk - because they knew they had some "free time" before Rose arrived? Did the girls plan to walk to where Rose was (up the road past the bridge) or hope to meet Rose on the road - because we know Rose was at the Farm past the bridge where the Farrows worked when she called the Plackers.

Did Rose then call the Plackers at around 5PM when she couldn't reach Skyla to tell her she was leaving in a few minutes and make sure was she ready to go? Is that when Peter called Taylor's cell phone at about 5:10 and couldn't reach her either and then went to find the girls? Was it Rose who first sounded the alarm that the girls weren't answering their phones? Did Peter Placker THINK something was wrong when he left the house...two girls not answering their phones = problem (accident, hurt, fell, drowning)?

Did Rose actually arrive at the crime scene (from the other direction) about the same time as Peter? Did she see the POI on the road? Was she also "looking" for the girls on the road?

Was Claudia Farrow with Rose when she arrived? Did she arrive BEFORE Rose? Did Jimmy Farrow arrive later and Claudia says she arrived with him, when in fact, she was there earlier? Did Claudia actually SEE the bodies BEFORE LE and EMT's arrived? She said she saw the bodies, but LE says she was NOT allowed inside the "tape" - all I can think is that she was there BEFORE LE arrived on scene and saw the bodies - and then left or pretended to arrive later after LE was there. Her story about seeing Skyla's body does not match what LE is saying about the crime scene and that only Peter Placker saw the girl's bodies up close because he found them - and that he kept Rose away from the bodies. According to her story Claudia did not arrive until after Rose called her from the scene, and LE was already there.

So now we know that both Skyla and Taylor had cell phones - and both probably had those phones with them when they were killed. And yet they sounded no alarm, or called to say they "saw something" etc. It sure sounds to me like the girls were NOT afraid and were just walking along when they were killed. I am still bothered by the fact that they were FACING the killer(s) and didn't even turn away. Not even a 1/4 turn in reaction to seeing the gun? Not even a pivot away to move away? No hesitation to approach a person with a gun standing outside his/her vehicle? Either the killer drove up with guns blazing, (which I doubt because Skyla was NOT on the road when she fell, she was back into the brush at least 5 feet) or the killer(s) didn't frighten the girls when walking/driving toward them. Taylor especially must have been just a couple of feet away....and at that point they girls were trapped into the ditch along the road by the killer(s) vehicle - and yet they didn't run or even turn away from the killer(s). They were boxed in and yet they were still facing this person? WHY?

Just more to think about...

My Opinion