Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #13

[DeltaDawn]

6-10-08 VIDEO of presser says PP took one of the girls cell phones and called 911
http://www.koco.com/video/16562436/?taf=okl

Thank you TG..I also found an article that quotes Rosser of OSBI saying the same thing..perhaps two calls were placed to 911?

 

[evelyn24]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/06/oklahoma-invest.html

Skyla and Taylor's bodies were discovered Sunday evening in a ditch along County Line Road in Weleetka, Oklahoma. According to the Okfuskee County Sheriff's Office, Skyla had been spending the night at Taylor's house, and the two had decided to take a walk along the dirt road to the bridge over Bad Creek. It was something both girls had done many times before, and the bridge was only about a quarter of a mile from Taylor's house, where she lived with her grandfather and legal guardian, Peter Placker. When the girls failed to return home in a timely manner, Placker called Taylor's cell phone but got no answer. Mildly concerned by the lack of response, Placker set out on foot to locate the two girls.
"He got 200 to 300 yards north of the home and found the girls on the side of the road," OSBI special agent Ben Rosser told Adaeveningnews.com. "Both girls had been shot multiple times. Both girls were dead at the scene. At that time, he (Placker) took a cell phone from one of the girls and made a 9-1-1 telephone call to notify the authorities."

This is what the media was reporting per Rosser of OSBI in the beginning of the case.

So were their two calls placed, one from Peter and one from Vicki?

Maybe there is more than one call, or maybe Vicki was with him and she called?
Didn't Brown say today that nobody used the girl's cell phone to call 911?

 

[YellowDog]

Than you TG..I also found an article that quotes Rosser of OSBI saying the same thing..perhaps two calls were placed to 911?

Perhaps Rosser was confused or Placker was not coherent. Think about it, if the girls phones were in their hands, they would have probably dropped them when shot. If they weren't, he would have had to disturb the bodies to retreive a cell phone from a pocket.

 

[FlowerChild]

If it was Vickie Placker on the call then my Contact is correct and Claudia did NOT see the wounds and was NOT allowed inside the tape at the scene and only arrived after Rose was at the scene and LE had arrived.

Without going into long details, my contact does know who was at the scene and what they were allowed (or not allowed) to do once LE arrived. He does NOT know what happened BEFORE the 911 call(s) came in - I can wager that nobody except Rose, Peter and maybe Vicky knows the truth about those moments.

If Claudia Farrow saw Skyla's wounds, she saw them before LE arrived on the scene - and I would imagine that if Peter stopped ROSE from going near the bodies, he would have stopped Claudia too (or tried to). Unless Claudia saw the bodies before Peter Placker did and before LE arrived she would not have gotten close enough to see specific wounds until AFTER the autopsy. And if the girls were obviously dead at the scene (which all the calls indicate they were), EMS would not have been allowed to touch the bodies either. The "gauze" seems to me to be something done to spare the family AFTER the autopsies.

We need a "guide" to the case for sure. It's confusing and almost impossible to follow in a progressive straight line. So basically we're back where we were except that we now know Vickie Paschal-Placker was at home when the girls were found by Peter and she did make a call to 911. What we don't know (And it probably isn't important) is whether Vickie was at the scene before LE and Rose arrived. All I know is that the story was that Peter was 1st (from the S), followed by Rose (from the N) , followed by "1st Responders" LE/EMT (from the S - went to the Placker HOUSE 1st) , followed by Claudia (from the N). At that point County Line Rd was blocked off at the cross-roads N and S of the scene. - which would have been just N of the Placker Home and about 1/2 mile S of the Bridge.

My Opinion

 

[Albert18]

Perhaps Rosser was confused or Placker was not coherent.

Or, Rosser should be fixing the flat on my car, not leading a double homicide investigation.

 

[YellowDog]

Or, Rosser should be fixing the flat on my car, not leading a double homicide investigation.

LOL. That was good Albert.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I don't think that Rosser was confused. I do think this is new info. Peter made an initial 911 call and then Rose arrived. At that point it could be Vicky had already been called by Peter so she placed a second call because no responders were there yet and they were all distraught. So..I think we found out today two calls were placed..and that very possibly there was other info in those calls that LE does not want to reveal.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I really can't understand LEs reluctance to divulge more information on this case. If they want help from the public, they need to give out a little information. Just a tip or two might be all it would take for someone to come forward. No one wants to point the finger at someone and then realize they had nothing to do with it.

So they've interviewed 100 people now. How many does that average out to per day for the number of days since the murders? Not very many. How many people in Weleetka? 1000 or so? If that's the case, they'll still be interviewing 9 months down the road.

What a big letdown!

How could there even be 100 suspects in Weleetka??? I thought it was a remote area?

I heard the 911 tape on the news, and I am confused. Why are they just now releasing this? Was it to spare the families?

The senselessness of this crime gives me a headache. Who is the town sociopath? Or was it kids shooting in the woods and they didn't see the girls till it was too late? Baffling.

This may have been covered already (I'm not up on the case) but why didn't they hear any gunshots, if the girls had multiple wounds? Gunshots are loud, and it was only 1/4 mile away??? :waitasec:

 

[FlowerChild]

How could there even be 100 suspects in Weleetka??? I thought it was a remote area?

I heard the 911 tape on the news, and I am confused. Why are they just now releasing this? Was it to spare the families?

The senselessness of this crime gives me a headache. Who is the town sociopath? Or was it kids shooting in the woods and they didn't see the girls till it was too late? Baffling.

This may have been covered already (I'm not up on the case) but why didn't they hear any gunshots, if the girls had multiple wounds? Gunshots are loud, and it was only 1/4 mile away??? :waitasec:

It appears the Plackers weren't home until a few minutes before Peter Placker found the bodies. You can't hear gunshots at your door if you aren't home at the time.

My Opinion

 

[T-Rex]

I think the spokeswoman at today's press conference was asked if there was more than one call to 911, and she said no, just this one call.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Claudia? I assumed it was Taylor's mom / grandma, since she is the one who would alternately say my daughter / my granddaughter...?

That is exactly what I thought. That Vicky made the call.

"My daughter. my granddaughter........my baby" etc.

imo

 

[SeriouslySearching]

OK I will concede that it would have to be Vicky since she does fluctuate between granddaughter and daughter in the call. Claudia or Rose would not.

You can hear a man's voice screaming in the background at the beginning of the call who I would assume to be Peter. You can also hear the roar of either a vehicle, a motorcycle, or some type of machinery very clearly. Maybe we need to concentrate on that.

If Peter walked to find the girls...he was not in a vehicle. Would Vicky have driven to the scene? Peter could have called her and told her to bring the car/truck in an effort to save the girls. Maybe somewhere in his mind he thought they could take them to the hospital instead of waiting on the EMTs. However, it doesn't make sense...because it sounds like he knew they were already dead.

Was the vehicle then Rose's driving up on the scene? Where was Vicky when she made the call since you could hear Peter? She is the one giving directions and making the call. If this was the second call to 911...they would have had the directions from Peter. I also think that the operator wouldn't have questioned if the dog was killed or if it was the girls. Makes me wonder about the account of Peter calling from Taylor's phone.

 

[T-Rex]

One other thing I noticed is she kept referring to suspects in a way that made it sound like more than one.

If they're talking about it being a local, using emotions to appeal to locals to stop shielding someone, referring to more than one suspect, and talking about the difficulty in questioning kids, that sort of points where they're looking.

 

[Pandabear]

If Taylor took this walk every day as stated by the grandfather, he probably wouldn't have been concerned about her wherabouts until after Rose called to say she was coming to pick up Skyla and maybe told him Skyla wasn't answering her phone. Rose may not have been as liberal as the grandfather about letting Skyla wander about in the country and sounded very upset on the telephone so grandfather took off to go look for them.

I've read that the Plackers said that when Taylor asked them if she and Skyla could walk down to the bridge that they initially told them no but the girls kept asking so they gave in. I didn't know that GP stated that Taylor took this walk every day. Or, had they asked permission in the past and GP finally gave in?

I just took for granted that it was Vickie P on the 911 tape since she kept going back and forth saying daughter/granddaughter.

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

Or, Rosser should be fixing the flat on my car, not leading a double homicide investigation.

:clap:
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Fox reporter Harris Faulker (sp) said "the authorities have hit a wall" in the case.

 

[ThoughtFox]

It appears the Plackers weren't home until a few minutes before Peter Placker found the bodies. You can't hear gunshots at your door if you aren't home at the time.

My Opinion

Thank you for explaining that! :blowkiss: I need to read up on this case, obviously!

I think the spokeswoman at today's press conference was asked if there was more than one call to 911, and she said no, just this one call.

Thanks for that info also!

 

[DeltaDawn]

Is there a video of the entire presser? Because then we could relisten to hear if this was the only call made to 911.

 

[Claycat]

I just heard the 911 call. I have been sobbing!

 

[Annie]

I think the spokeswoman at today's press conference was asked if there was more than one call to 911, and she said no, just this one call.

That is what I heard too.

 

[evelyn24]

OK I will concede that it would have to be Vicky since she does fluctuate between granddaughter and daughter in the call. Claudia or Rose would not.

You can hear a man's voice screaming in the background at the beginning of the call who I would assume to be Peter. You can also hear the roar of either a vehicle, a motorcycle, or some type of machinery very clearly. Maybe we need to concentrate on that.

If Peter walked to find the girls...he was not in a vehicle. Would Vicky have driven to the scene? Peter could have called her and told her to bring the car/truck in an effort to save the girls. Maybe somewhere in his mind he thought they could take them to the hospital instead of waiting on the EMTs. However, it doesn't make sense...because it sounds like he knew they were already dead.

Was the vehicle then Rose's driving up on the scene? Where was Vicky when she made the call since you could hear Peter? She is the one giving directions and making the call. If this was the second call to 911...they would have had the directions from Peter. I also think that the operator wouldn't have questioned if the dog was killed or if it was the girls. Makes me wonder about the account of Peter calling from Taylor's phone.

I think Vicki made the call to 911 and Rosser didn't have all the information when he initially said that PP called.
They were still pulling together all the facts at the beginning of this case when Rosser made the comment about PP being the one who called using one of the girl's cell phone.
That's all I think it is...confusion.
Unless who made the 911 call helps solves this case, I'm not sure it matters.
Do you agree, or do you think there could be some importance to who called 911 first?

I think the sole purpose of today's presser was to get to someone's heart strings and have them turn in someone, or give some vital information.
Also, it lets the public know that OSBI is still diligently investigating the case. Other than that, I'm not sure we got much information.