Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #2

[Littledeer]

MissieMT:

Nice to see you again! Thanks for your answers to my questions.

SS: I take it you live in Oklahoma? The timing of the killings was around 5:00 to 5:30 p.m. That would still be in BROAD DAYLIGHT. I have read this was a rural area, but yet the road was well traveled.

So far I would think LE has the shell casings, (so they know exactly what type of guns were used), tire threads (so they know roughly what type of vehicle was in the area), and any other evidence.

But from what they have been saying, it doesn't appear that the killers were local. ?????

 

[SeriouslySearching]

SS, this is very disturbing to me. I really think they should be checking into that creek. IMO, it would make perfect sense-in a sick murderous sort of way

I agree. They need to look for signs or a body of another person being murdered. At least, search for the weapons in the creek/river.

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

It might be wrong to surmise, but originally, I had thought the walk was more of a leisurely stroll that two young girls might make. If she were used to brisk walking for exercise, then maybe they could have made it to the bridge and back.

I know I have kind of been hung up on this, but my logic was that if they didn't make it to the bridge, just strolling onto an illegal act in the middle of the road, didn't make sense to me, thus, I'd go for the thrill kill scenario.

However, if they made it to the bridge, which to me, gives more real estate to do something covert or be a landmark where a drug drop might be, etc. then the gang or drug runner scenario is more likely.

 

[Littledeer]

Can anyone put up a map of the area??

 

[STEADFAST]

Can anyone put up a map of the area??

There's already one on this thread. It should be easy to find since it will look so much different than the other posts.

 

[murdershewrote]

yes, I'm sure they'd want to ditch the weapons somewhere.

I seem to recall Greta reported that LE does believe the girls made it to the bridge...that they were seen there. by whom I don't know...maybe the witness they have interviewed?

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

I hope this works.

Here's the maps.yahoo.com site

http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=h&lat=35.383868&lon=-96.086355&zoom=16&q1=weleetka, OK

Taylor's house is in the clearing in the lower middle of the map, near 1130.

N3890 Rd is the County Line Road

You can see Bad Creek about 3/4 of the way to 1120

 

[Littledeer]

Thanks Steadfast.

Will go look now. Came here late. Knew better, as I am just sick to my stomach right now!!!

I want these ba*******s caught!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[STEADFAST]

I hope this works.

Here's the maps.yahoo.com site

http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=h&lat=35.383868&lon=-96.086355&zoom=16&q1=weleetka, OK

Taylor's house is in the clearing in the lower middle of the map, near 1130.

N3890 Rd is the County Line Road

You can see Bad Creek about 3/4 of the way to 1120

That worked great! That diagonal line is the cleared swath through the woods. It intersects practically right at the murder scene.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Mark Fuhrman was interviewed the other night and agrees with you that whoever did this, has killed before. In his opinion this isn't something that one does first time out. He also believes the shots to the head were what police call "insurance", to make absolutely sure the girls were dead. They wanted to make sure no one would live to tell.

Hard to say, we've been fooled many times before in cases...look at the Groehne case, those kids were watched for a few days beforehand. But I do think it is locals though and I do think they will be arrested very soon.

Is there any gang activity in that area?

Not the immediate area as this is very rural, but the known drug routes are only a mile and 5 miles away. I think it has everything to do with gangs and drugs. Unless the local is deeply tied with them...I think the shooters are from outside.

Mark F. said many things I had mentioned before. I think it is the right track to say this was someone experienced with violence of this type. Everything screams to me that this was gangland style and there was an immediate reason to kill the girls. It happened too quickly for a sexual assault scenario. They wouldn't shoot them there if they were trying to abduct them. So it was a sudden circumstance which would leave it to be planned or they saw something, imo.

 

[Beyond Belief]

§21-1123.

A. Any person who shall knowingly and intentionally:

1. Make any oral or written lewd or indecent proposal to any child
under sixteen (16) years of age for the child to have unlawful sexual
relations or sexual intercourse with any person; or

2. Look upon, touch, maul, or feel the body or private parts of any
child under sixteen (16) years of age in any lewd or lascivious manner
by any acts against public decency and morality, as defined by law; or

3. Ask, invite, entice, or persuade any child under sixteen (16) years
of age to go alone with any person to a secluded, remote, or secret
place, with the unlawful and willful intent and purpose then and there
to commit any crime against public decency and morality, as defined by
law, with the child; or

4. In any manner lewdly or lasciviously look upon, touch, maul, or
feel the body or private parts of any child under sixteen (16) years
of age in any indecent manner or in any manner relating to sexual
matters or sexual interest; or

5. In a lewd and lascivious manner and for the purpose of sexual
gratification, urinate or defecate upon a child under sixteen (16)
years of age or ejaculate upon or in the presence of a child, or force
or require a child to look upon the body or private parts of another
person or upon sexual acts performed in the presence of the child or
force or require a child to touch or feel the body or private parts of
said child or another person,

upon conviction, shall be deemed guilty of a felony and shall be
punished by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary for not less than
one (1) year nor more than twenty (20) years. The provisions of this
section shall not apply unless the accused is at least three (3) years
older than the victim. Any person convicted of a second or subsequent
violation of subsection A of this section shall be guilty of a felony
and shall not be eligible for probation, suspended or deferred
sentence. Any person convicted of a third or subsequent violation of
subsection A of this section shall be guilty of a felony and shall be
punished by imprisonment in the State Penitentiary for a term of life
or life without parole, in the discretion of the jury, or in case the
jury fails or refuses to fix punishment then the same shall be
pronounced by the court.

B. No person shall commit sexual battery on any other person. "Sexual
battery" shall mean the intentional touching, mauling or feeling of
the body or private parts of any person sixteen (16) years of age or
older, in a lewd and lascivious manner and without the consent of that
person. Any person convicted of any violation of this subsection shall
be deemed guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in
the State Penitentiary for not more than five (5) years.

 

[Littledeer]

Envoy:

THANKS!!!!!!!!! Just caught your post as I was leaving to find the map!!

:blowkiss:

 

[STEADFAST]

Thanks Steadfast.

Will go look now. Came here late. Knew better, as I am just sick to my stomach right now!!!

I want these ba*******s caught!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, it's on thread #1. I think it was posted today.

 

[MissieMt]

The killers could have been doing anything at that bridge-not just a drug deal. Am I remembering correctly that the road was not travelled often?

 

[STEADFAST]

The killers could have been doing anything at that bridge-not just a drug deal. Am I remembering correctly that the road was not travelled often?

LE said it was travelled pretty often by locals and that the bridge was a popular hang out.

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

I believe the other map is near the bottom of page 14 in the first thread.

 

[MissieMt]

Thank you Steadfast. I just couldn't remember, I just crammed all this in today and the talk about the dirt road just led me to think it wasn't a well travelled road.

 

[murdershewrote]

it could have been more of a gang initiation type killing...go out and find somebody to kill, the bolder the better (those sick XXXXXXX). It happens here in SoCal all the time. It would be hard for me to believe in a rural town like that, but I know no place is Mayberry anymore.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Map: http://newsok.com/article/3255986 (I wish they would fix it so we could drag and drop pics here! So much easier than photobucket.)

Thanks for the other map, Envoy. I don't see a house in that clearing and I can't make out water or the bridge. I wonder if Google Earth is any better?

 

[1000Sparks]

that's like just making up some chit...


People don't have meth labs in the middle of the road, especially a busy one...and who lays waiting for two little girls?

they saw something? while they are walking down the road...give me a break.

This was a thrill killing...and I don't believe there were two people....one person with 2 guns...different calibers...trying t mess with LE.

Betting they have a suspect.