Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #3

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  • #401
IOU :)
Yes, it also may explain the "hit" theory.
Actually, it could. There are some among the tribes that are very resistant to "new" members especially the ones that go beyond 1/16th. *could be wrong about the exact number.

I must stop and say I have NEVER known of a hit among ANY tribes. However, it doesn't mean that a person didn't get pissed off and decide to act. They have to consider it.

I must add that I think this killing has probably nothing to do with the tribe, but we should explore every possibility. As long as we do not know about the real parents...we have to speculate.
 
  • #402
Something is going on with Taylor's biologocal parents. Because even if you did not have custody of your child, you would still acknowledge them in their death. It says to me that there is possibly bad blood between Taylor's parents and her grandparents...maybe why it turns out she was killed. It's not normal when your child is brutally murdered that the woman that gave her life does not come out and attend the funeral. Something very creepy is going on here. I still lean on the killings being more premeditated. Someone knew these girls were going to the bridge that day. Someone knew the time they were going too.
Or someone was watching the house waiting for Taylor (or even any family member) to leave - or to catch Taylor (or any family member) alone at home.

They either wanted to kill one of the girls (Taylor seems most logical since it was her home), or punish/hurt Taylor's "family" (in which case any one of those living in the house could have been the victim). That both girls died could have been a "collateral damage" thing - perhaps only Taylor (or her family) were the intended targets?

It just seems to me to it could be a "hit" on Taylor's Family or someone who wanted Taylor dead. I think it has key points that point to one or both as motives.

If it was Taylor the person was after and it's her father, we may not find the POI alive - it screams "last act" - if I can't have her no-one will and I will take her with me and have her in death. Or it could be someone who was angry at Taylor's Bio-Mom and decided to kill Taylor in revenge. Or either bio-parent - killing her to hurt/punish the GP's - again, if I can't have her, you won't have her either?

I have a feeling there is SOME link to Taylor's family somewhere here. Maybe not as the perp, but done by someone else to punish them or take Taylor from them.

In fact, perhaps the perp didn't know WHICH child was Taylor and just killed them both "in case"?

My Opinion
 
  • #403
Wouldn't Taylor have to be considered more Native American than what the aunts were asking about in finding the roll number? I know Cherokee requires a person to have both parents be Cherokee. At least that's what I was told some years back.
 
  • #404
Hello Again FlowerChild, I have to agree with you. The fact thta the police do not even mention her bio parents is odd. The fact that it was not listed in her obit is even odder in my opinion. And because NO information has come out about Taylor's bio parents, naturally it makes people more suspicious....and come to think of it, I don't think her grandparents have ever mentioned the bio parents, have thye? That is strange too. Did they give up their parental rights somewhere along the way? and if so, why?
 
  • #405
If you are a product from a full blood and say an Irish person...makes their children a half. Their children's children are then a quarter unless they are mated to another Indian. This is where it gets very complicated.
 
  • #406
FlowerChild, I was thinking earlier about what you were saying about the man in the sketch. He might be dead, too.

In fact, he may have been the hit and the girls were collateral damage. ???
 
  • #407
If you are a product from a full blood and say an Irish person...makes their children a half. Their children's children are then a quarter unless they are mated to another Indian. This is where it gets very complicated.

Is the name Paschal Indian?
 
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Other possible reasons Taylor's bio-parents might not be around:

Maybe one or both are in prison.

Maybe one or both are dead.

We don't know if Taylor was taken from her bio-mom, or if she was given for adoption at birth by a young teenager who selflessly chose not to abort her. If a baby was given up at birth, the bio-mom may not know that the child she gave birth to is dead.

Bio-mom could be mentally or emotionally handicapped in some way...she could have gotten pregnant as the result of rape.

Susan
 
  • #410
We don't know if this man is local, we presume that, but we don't know. We have several witnesses who saw the man and we have several witnesses who heard gunshots. Witnesses say he acted suspiciously, but we don't know what he was doing there." Brown has described the man as American Indian, 6-feet-tall with brown eyes and a long black ponytail. Witnesses said the man was seen standing outside his truck on the county road where the girls were later found dead. Brown said witnesses told investigators that truck was blocking the road around the time of the shooting and the man was standing outside the truck. About six witnesses have given the same account, Brown said

http://newsok.com/investigators-widen-search-for-killers-of-girls-near-weleetka/article/3256954

Seen by SIX people.
Didn't run, hide show any indication of "fear" and has his truck parked BLOCKING the road.
Let people see him closely - close enough to determine the length of his hair, ethnicity and eye color.

That screams "hit" or "revenge" or "cleaning up loose ends" to me. He went to kill and he did. No emotion, no fear, no reaction - nothing to indicate he was high, angry or excited. He killed two girls and left the area - job done.

It's just not a crime of passion behavior - he wasn't out of control in any way - in fact, coldly in control and calm.

My feeling right now is that either it was a stranger doing a "job", or it was cold, calculated and well thought-out revenge (the perp may consider it "justice") or it was a "last act" and they will find him dead by suicide.

My Opinion

Actually, FC I have to say this could possibilty be a reasonable angle.

This person is a psycho path, the fact there were witnesses didn't seem to faze him.
 
  • #411
I don't know. Not that I am familar with, but doesn't mean it is not.
 
  • #412
Other possible reasons Taylor's bio-parents might not be around:

Maybe one or both are in prison.

Maybe one or both are dead.

We don't know if Taylor was taken from her bio-mom, or if she was given for adoption at birth by a young teenager who selflessly chose not to abort her. If a baby was given up at birth, the bio-mom may not know that the child she gave birth to is dead.

Bio-mom could be mentally or emotionally handicapped in some way...she could have gotten pregnant as the result of rape.

Susan
Yes, there are many. I find it odd especially in this state that it has not come out by now. As many reporters as I have heard are on the scene and none have come up with it? They are asking themselves the same questions we are. They want the answers, too.

(I would be willing to put a piece in their ear during interviews so they know what to ask.)
 
  • #413
Other possible reasons Taylor's bio-parents might not be around:

Maybe one or both are in prison.

Maybe one or both are dead.

We don't know if Taylor was taken from her bio-mom, or if she was given for adoption at birth by a young teenager who selflessly chose not to abort her. If a baby was given up at birth, the bio-mom may not know that the child she gave birth to is dead.

Bio-mom could be mentally or emotionally handicapped in some way...she could have gotten pregnant as the result of rape.

Susan

All you have wrote is true but doesn't it seem likley that someone along the way would have made mention of her bio parents..especially since it is the grandparents that are raising her and they would know the circumstances her bio parents.
 
  • #414
Never mind, SS, I know it is an Indian name. Brain relapse tonight.

Isn't it a Pakistan name? I had a freind years ago with a name similiar to Paschal and she was from Pakistan.
 
  • #415
Other possible reasons Taylor's bio-parents might not be around:

Maybe one or both are in prison.

Maybe one or both are dead.

We don't know if Taylor was taken from her bio-mom, or if she was given for adoption at birth by a young teenager who selflessly chose not to abort her. If a baby was given up at birth, the bio-mom may not know that the child she gave birth to is dead.

Bio-mom could be mentally or emotionally handicapped in some way...she could have gotten pregnant as the result of rape.

Susan

Good points. I was thinking prison myself.
 
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The parents most likely lost custody due to drug use, which is why so many grandparents are raising grandkids. Maybe after a year of non support their rights were terminated. If the grandparents are poor, they probably had help with CPS to do a special needs adoption, or If one of the grandparents is disabled or a disabled veteran they have to adopt to get any benefits on a grandchild they're raising.
 
  • #418
Good points. I was thinking prison myself.

True but her grandparents would know the circumstances of why they are raising their grandchild. So adoption is not likely. They are raising their granddaughter as their daughter as she calls them mom and dad.
 
  • #419
All you have wrote is true but doesn't it seem likley that someone along the way would have made mention of her bio parents..especially since it is the grandparents that are raising her and they would know the circumstances her bio parents.

I think the explanation is probably that one of her "brothers" or "sisters" is her mom and/or dad, but she was raised in the family as the child of her grandparents. The other parent is who knows who or where. I have a friend whose son was raised as her brother because she had him when she was so young. She does not treat him as or consider him her child; she thinks of him as a younger brother, and would definitely be listed as his sister in an obituary.
 
  • #420
The parents most likely lost custody due to drug use, which is why so many grandparents are raising grandkids. Maybe after a year of non support their rights were terminated. If the grandparents are poor, they probably had help with CPS to do a special needs adoption, or If one of the grandparents is disabled or a disabled veteran they have to adopt to get any benefits on a grandchild they're raising.

You are so right. Drugs and gangs are the downfall of our society.
 
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