EnvoyDriver61
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As many have stated, it's difficult to wrap yourselve around this case, primarily, IMO, due to time, distance, witness/evidence.
First off is the timing.
Reports state the girls left around 5:00 p.m. Sunday to walk. Skyla's mother calls about 5:08. Grandmother takes this call and tells Grandfather to call the girls' cellphone and tell them to return. No answer and he takes off looking for them. LE believes deaths occurred around 5:20-5:25 (reports indicate that they don't think sexual assault is involved because girls are found clothed and indicate that there wasn't enough time for sexual assault to occur). Grandfather's 911 call is reported at either 5:40 p.m. or 5:41 p.m. Skyla's mother arrives at Taylor's house from either south (common assumption) or north and is flagged by grandfather so that she cannot see the bodies (why I think she came from the north).
So timing: all this occurs between 4:55 to 5:41.
4:55 - 5:00 Girls leave house. (assumed)
5:08 - 5:10 Skyla's mother calls (reported in interview)
5:13 - 5:25 Sometime in this time frame, Grandfather attempts to call girls to tell them to return (assumed)
5:10 - 5:25 Witnesses reported seeing girls walking and the suspicious person (don't know if they are the same witness or two different ones) assumed since girls are seen alive)
5:20 - 5:25 Assumed time of death (reports say sexual assault unlikely because whole event takes place in 20-25 minutes)
5:25 - 5:30 Grandfather leaves on foot to look for girls (assumption because he is going north toward the girls and doesn't see white pickup in the road (not reported at least,) so murder has already occurred)
5:38 - 5:39 Grandfather finds girls and
5:40 Grandfather calls 911
Next is the distance:
Reports are that they made it to the bridge and were returning. Bridge on Yahoo maps looks about 3/4 mile away and some reports say it is 3/4 mile away. Other reports are that it is 6/10 mile away. One early report says that the girls were found 1/4 mile (200-300 yds) from Taylors house on west side of County Line Rd. and the bridge was another 1/4 mile from that. So, you have 3/4 mile, 3/5 mile, 1/2 mile as to how far the bridge was from Taylor's house.
Round trip if they did make it to the bridge from Taylor's house to where they were found is 1.5 miles (3/4 there and 1/2 back), .95 miles (6/10 there and .35 back), or 3/4 mile (1/2 there and 1/4 back).
If they did make it to the bridge and back and LE seems to think they did, then the shorter distances are probably more accurate.
Finally, witness reports and evidence:
6 people say they either saw the truck and person, saw the girls walking (moments from being shot supposedly, so we assume they were walking back south), or heard the unusual gunshots. There is supposedly a U-turn track near where the girls were shot. They were shot at the spot where the bodies were found. They were shot from the front. But, where they facing east when shot, kind of in a drive-by fashion, or where they shot facing north (having been confronted from someone coming up from behind, or where they shot from the south, the U-turn being in front of the girls).
A boot print is reported to have been found. Truck is white with a chrome strip on the side either a Chevy or Ford with OK plates. (I think it is a Chevy/GMC since they use that chrome on the side to tell what kind of truck it is: 1500, 2500, or Silverado, etc.)
The POI was described as acting suspicious, outside of the truck, with the truck parked at almost a perpendicular angle to the road.
Questions I have:
From a time standpoint, how did the girls cover that distance to the bridge and back? They are only 1/4 mile from the house when they are shot. If Skyla's mother calls at 5:08, how long did grandfather try to reach the girls on the cell before walking out after them?
1/4 shouldn't take but 5 minutes to walk, even slowly. And he doesn't see anything suspicious in the distance while walking. If Skyla's mother calls and says she is coming for the girls and they call the girls to come back, and Skyla's mother takes about 30 minutes to get to the house (5:08 to past 5:41, time of 911 call) what does that say how far they bridge is and how fast they think the girls are travelling? Reports indicate grandfather was concerned when girls didn't answer cellphone and took out after them shortly thereafter. But, if Skyla's mother calls at 5:08, why does he wait at least 15-20 minutes to go find the girls?
How could the girls have made that distance if the bridge was indeed 3/4 mile away? If they did make the bridge and were returning, it had closer.
If the girls saw something suspicious, why didn't they call home? Seems the phone wasn't answered
closer to the beginning of the walk.
Were the girls shot from a car for all the shots, or did someone get out and finish them off
upclose?
First off is the timing.
Reports state the girls left around 5:00 p.m. Sunday to walk. Skyla's mother calls about 5:08. Grandmother takes this call and tells Grandfather to call the girls' cellphone and tell them to return. No answer and he takes off looking for them. LE believes deaths occurred around 5:20-5:25 (reports indicate that they don't think sexual assault is involved because girls are found clothed and indicate that there wasn't enough time for sexual assault to occur). Grandfather's 911 call is reported at either 5:40 p.m. or 5:41 p.m. Skyla's mother arrives at Taylor's house from either south (common assumption) or north and is flagged by grandfather so that she cannot see the bodies (why I think she came from the north).
So timing: all this occurs between 4:55 to 5:41.
4:55 - 5:00 Girls leave house. (assumed)
5:08 - 5:10 Skyla's mother calls (reported in interview)
5:13 - 5:25 Sometime in this time frame, Grandfather attempts to call girls to tell them to return (assumed)
5:10 - 5:25 Witnesses reported seeing girls walking and the suspicious person (don't know if they are the same witness or two different ones) assumed since girls are seen alive)
5:20 - 5:25 Assumed time of death (reports say sexual assault unlikely because whole event takes place in 20-25 minutes)
5:25 - 5:30 Grandfather leaves on foot to look for girls (assumption because he is going north toward the girls and doesn't see white pickup in the road (not reported at least,) so murder has already occurred)
5:38 - 5:39 Grandfather finds girls and
5:40 Grandfather calls 911
Next is the distance:
Reports are that they made it to the bridge and were returning. Bridge on Yahoo maps looks about 3/4 mile away and some reports say it is 3/4 mile away. Other reports are that it is 6/10 mile away. One early report says that the girls were found 1/4 mile (200-300 yds) from Taylors house on west side of County Line Rd. and the bridge was another 1/4 mile from that. So, you have 3/4 mile, 3/5 mile, 1/2 mile as to how far the bridge was from Taylor's house.
Round trip if they did make it to the bridge from Taylor's house to where they were found is 1.5 miles (3/4 there and 1/2 back), .95 miles (6/10 there and .35 back), or 3/4 mile (1/2 there and 1/4 back).
If they did make it to the bridge and back and LE seems to think they did, then the shorter distances are probably more accurate.
Finally, witness reports and evidence:
6 people say they either saw the truck and person, saw the girls walking (moments from being shot supposedly, so we assume they were walking back south), or heard the unusual gunshots. There is supposedly a U-turn track near where the girls were shot. They were shot at the spot where the bodies were found. They were shot from the front. But, where they facing east when shot, kind of in a drive-by fashion, or where they shot facing north (having been confronted from someone coming up from behind, or where they shot from the south, the U-turn being in front of the girls).
A boot print is reported to have been found. Truck is white with a chrome strip on the side either a Chevy or Ford with OK plates. (I think it is a Chevy/GMC since they use that chrome on the side to tell what kind of truck it is: 1500, 2500, or Silverado, etc.)
The POI was described as acting suspicious, outside of the truck, with the truck parked at almost a perpendicular angle to the road.
Questions I have:
From a time standpoint, how did the girls cover that distance to the bridge and back? They are only 1/4 mile from the house when they are shot. If Skyla's mother calls at 5:08, how long did grandfather try to reach the girls on the cell before walking out after them?
1/4 shouldn't take but 5 minutes to walk, even slowly. And he doesn't see anything suspicious in the distance while walking. If Skyla's mother calls and says she is coming for the girls and they call the girls to come back, and Skyla's mother takes about 30 minutes to get to the house (5:08 to past 5:41, time of 911 call) what does that say how far they bridge is and how fast they think the girls are travelling? Reports indicate grandfather was concerned when girls didn't answer cellphone and took out after them shortly thereafter. But, if Skyla's mother calls at 5:08, why does he wait at least 15-20 minutes to go find the girls?
How could the girls have made that distance if the bridge was indeed 3/4 mile away? If they did make the bridge and were returning, it had closer.
If the girls saw something suspicious, why didn't they call home? Seems the phone wasn't answered
closer to the beginning of the walk.
Were the girls shot from a car for all the shots, or did someone get out and finish them off
upclose?
