Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #4

[Claycat]

I was out of town when this happened and didn't have access to a computer or TV, so this may have already be posted somewhere. This is a memorial to Taylor. It is beautiful. In two of the pictures she looks so much like one of my granddaughters at that age. It brought tears to my eyes to think that someone could harm this beautiful little girl like this, much less two beautiful little girls.

http://www.shurdenfuneralhome.com/TaylorPlackerVideo.html

Thanks, Annie! I watched about half of it and began to sob!

 

[Claycat]

Could the grand daughter be the daughter of Joe Jr?

She looks like him, doesn't she!

 

[PoorPaulaNNJ]

I think you are totally on to something here! You are a good sleuth!

Thanks

 

[Busylady]

This is a picture of Smith Justin Beal from 2000

http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/s...=PORTAL30&doc_num=94817&offender_book_id=6304

 

[Claycat]

Paula, they must know we are accessing the photo. I went back to look again, and it said no offender found by that name!



Never mind, it must have been a glitch. Here is a link to the photo. He looks like Taylor, doesn't he!


http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/s...RTAL30&doc_num=530544&offender_book_id=315025

 

[PoorPaulaNNJ]

No. FD-1999-1012
(Family and Domestic:
Case Filing: CIVIL PATERNITY - STATE (D.H.S.))

Filed: 02/18/1999
Closed: 09/20/1999

Paternity against Joe Jr.

 

[PoorPaulaNNJ]

Paula, they must know we are accessing the photo. I went back to look again, and it said no offender found by that name!

Really?
I've still got it open, so I'll grab screenshots.

 

[SuziQ]

Paula, I know we aren't supposed to swear on here. However...Holy ****!

 

[Claycat]

Really?
I've still got it open, so I'll grab screenshots.

It was a glitch. I accessed it again.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Yes I think they look alike that's why I thought maybe Joe Jr was her Dad, but she lives with her grandparents who have probably raised her.

Joe Jr has quite the rap sheet under civil cases as well as the selling guns charges. It looks like he has been busy.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Well imo if they were hunting them down they thought he was a snitch and that he had either agreed to testify for the Feds. That is why they would retaliate.

Joe had to be screaming his head off to the police immediately that these ba*tards had found them and had murdered Taylor and Skyla to send a message. It is so hard to infiltrate these gangs though or to get them to talk. I now believe if this guy is a gang member sent to do the dirty work then they are hiding him out.

Oh my goodness this is just so ruthless. To kill anyone is just horrible but to know they will even do that to innocent children is just unfathomable to me.

They may have been placed in the witness protection plan. Now I understand why their home was in such a remote area and very hard to find.

imoo

 

[Claycat]

No. FD-1999-1012
(Family and Domestic:
Case Filing: CIVIL PATERNITY - STATE (D.H.S.))

Filed: 02/18/1999
Closed: 09/20/1999

Paternity against Joe Jr.

This may have been filed to get child support for Taylor!

 

[Claycat]

I agree, Oceanblueeyes, but I think they would have changed their name if they had been under protection.

This is so sad! Poor kids! Taylor could have been targeted, and Skyla was just there because she was her friend.

 

[Busylady]

This is a great find but I can't figure out how we tie Joe Placker Sr to Taylor Plackers grandfather Peter Steven Placker? We have no way of knowing of Joe Placker is any relationship to Peter Placker unless I am missing something.

 

[SuziQ]

Witness retaliation is a big problem and some DA's are admitting that it's out of control. There was recently a case in GA. where two kids were shot in their own bedroom because their mother was set to testify in a case. A few weeks ago in Colorado a man was convicted for gunning down witnesses in their car on a busy street. A man in Los Angeles was burned alive at a convenience store for being a witness. The hitmen poured gas on him and lit him up. I could go on and on. Witness protection is not offered and not an option for most witnesses.

IMO, the Placker family has some scary connections that can no longer be ignored. I'm sure LE knows all about this and is working this angle. They just need to figure out who's responsible.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

This is a great find but I can't figure out how we tie Joe Placker Sr to Taylor Plackers grandfather Peter Steven Placker? We have no way of knowing of Joe Placker is any relationship to Peter Placker unless I am missing something.

Maybe I need to slow down to read and think more clearly. Thanks for bringing that to our attention.


Didnt it give the age of Joe Placker as 54 in the article about the gun charges?

How old is Taylor's grandfather? Do we know his DOB?

imoo

 

[Claycat]

Look at the docket search for OK under Joe Placker.
There's info showing spouse, Ann Marie, who has same addy in OKC as....Peter and Vicky/Vickie, and Linda Kaye/Kay
Very interesting.
Looks like protective order for spouse and minor children too. I'm reading all right now.

BusyLady, PoorPaula posted this earlier. The address is the same. That is probably the connection.

 

[FlowerChild]

As I said earlier, I never thought this was a hit on Taylor specifically, she was just convenient - and alone. IMO, It was intended to hurt her GRANDPARENTS or someone in the family - and the WAY it was done was to send a message to them. I still do not think the girls were the intended target, they were just "handy" - and I do not think the perp knew specifically WHICH girl was Taylor or even that there was a Taylor - all he knew was that the girls he was killing came out of the Placker house.

IF the Placker family was involved with the Bandidos, and then somehow betrayed them (at least in the eyes of the Bandidos) THAT is the key to this crime. IF this was a hit by them or an associate the POI was probably NOT from the area and LE will have to look long and far (nationally) to find him. And the truck is not his either - probably stolen and was in a chop shop in pieces by Monday or is now a different color and looks totally different and is in Kansas or Texas or even further and the POI is now on a bike and is in AZ or NM or somewhere where he is NOT standing out. It has now been a week and if the POI was "hired" or a part of the Bandidos he is in deep hiding or is far away from OK. And being supported by the gang. Unless one of the insiders talks, the POI is not gonna get found or ID'd without a national effort - and a MUCH bigger reward. A bigger reward because crossing those guys is obviously pretty dangerous and this precise crime PROVES it. All they have to say now is, "we never forget, if you betray us we'll make you pay - you see what happens to people who cross us".

IMO, This was a "hit" and innocent children paid. Those "kill shots" give it away - the person who killed them is a cold, calculating "pro" and could care less if people saw him. He isn't connected in any way to ANY of them and knew within hours he would be far away. And THAT is why the Placker family was shielded by a biker group when they left the funeral so as not to be on video and why the OSBI waited until the funerals were over to release the sketch and why the familes have NOT been on TV. They are HIDING and I betcha the Placker family either has a cop living with them or they are GONE. I think within a week the Plackers will all be somewhere else - hopefully with a new name. As soon as they are, there will be "more developments" and more info from OSBI.

My Opinion

 

[Busylady]

Thank you, I guess thats what I am missing I went through all the addresses and could not come up with a match. Paula could you post the link that shows the same address. Thank you so much.

BusyLady, PoorPaula posted this earlier. The address is the same. That is probably the connection.

 

[Busylady]

Also another name to look at is Jessie Carl Paschal as being Taylors father. It would explain the Paschal-Placker combination name. Jessie is listed as a brother on the obit. DOB is 1/23/1977
http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/getpartyrecord.asp?partynamesid=10193006