Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #6

[SuziQ]

What really got me was that she said...

"They had not checked in for over an hour so the 13 year old, Taylor Placker's grandfather went to go check on them.

Over an hour????
Haven't they said like 30 minutes all this time?

That all changed a few nights ago when Rosser made a statement on a Greta Video that indicated it was 4:30ish when they left the house. I don't remember the exact wording or time. One thing is for certain. We don't have a true timeline.

 

[Fairy1]

That all changed a few nights ago when Rosser made a statement on a Greta Video that indicated it was 4:30ish when they left the house. I don't remember the exact wording or time. One thing is for certain. We don't have a true timeline.

We do have a basic timeline and it is short. I do not find it odd at all that GP went looking for the girls on foot after Skyla's mom called. It seems he was expecting them to return soon. I think the Taylor's grandparents were very much on top of it in terms of caring for her. What I do find odd is is comment that "they killed the girls." That speaks volumes to me and I'm quite sure LE is on top of that. Whatever the outcome of this case, those liitle girls DID NOT deserve what happened to them. I take comfort in the fact that it does seem to have happened so fast they really never knew what hit them.

 

[noZme]

claycat was at topix a little while ago ... said something about what her meditations had revealed then she & another poster were signing in another site where they could message each other.

 

[Leila]

Has this been found/posted already? I didn't see it, if it has.

This guy's age matches articles, and these records are from Oklahoma.

http://www.odcr.com/results.php?Page=0&PHPSESSID=gskdqr0goh0efpmh78nc5nn891

Person Details
Most current address and contact information.
Name:GORDON, EDWARD LEE
Date of Birth:03/20/1987

Address:202 E. 20TH
BAXTER SPRINGS KS 66713
Phone:Description:

County:McIntosh - County Last Updated: 06/19/2008 09:00Case:CM-05-00223STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. GORDON, EDWARD Date Filed:06/20/2005Amount Owed:$0.00 (as of 06/19/2008 09:00)
Offense: POSSESSION OF PARAPHERNALIA



PartiesAttorneyDAWSON, CINDY M. - EUFAULA OK
DefendantGORDON, EDWARD - BAXTER SPRINGS KS
JudgeMOWERY, GENE F.
- EUFAULA OKDAVOLZ, KAREN A.D.A. WEEKS, SHARON
- CHECOTAH OK

Thanks PoorPaula! Great info!

 

[LillyRush]

And who are these witnesses? Do they have any connection to the boys? Are the boys included in those witnesses?

I'm not saying this is necessarily what I believe happened. I don't really have a strong theory, but it's something I've been thinking about.

It seems the boys were cleared almost immediately.

You're not alone-I was thinking about that too. I hope le is still leaving themselves open to the possibility that the 'witnesses' could be giving them a false suspect description.

 

[KR2tonenow]

claycat was at topix a little while ago ... said something about what her meditations had revealed then she & another poster were signing in another site where they could message each other.

TY, I PM'd her.

 

[FlowerChild]

YW.

Hey, I also found a blog mentioning where Skyla's mom works, but what's weird is it says both the girls' moms work there. I wasn't sure if I should post that. And I don't think it's Granny and Mom, it said both moms.

Taylor called Vicky and Peter Mom and Dad, even tho they were actually her Grandparents. I am sure Vicky refers to herself locally as Taylor's Mom and Peter refers to himself as her Dad. Even within the family, Vicky and Peter (nicknamed Bud and Drag) are called Taylor's Mom and Dad.

Since they didn't name a MOM in the Obit I am assuming this is referring to Vicky Placker as Taylor's Mom.

My Opinion

 

[Leila]

more from same link:


A few days ago two young girls ages 11 and 13 who were best friends and played together all the time on their rural country roads. They had not checked in for over an hour so the 13 year old, Taylor Placker's grandfather went to go check on them. He found both girls shot to death down the road from the house. They had multiple shots to the head and chest. I have more information but since it has not been released in the news yet I probably better not let it out right now.
Both the girls mothers work at our Henryetta McDonalds and had moved to the area from Oklahoma City for a quieter, safer place for their girls to grow up together. All of us are helping to raise money for the funerals and help these ladies with their unimaginable losses.

Thanks Poor Paula..............the part I put in bold is what jumped out at me. It would appear that the families are being updated by LE with information that hasn't been made public.

 

[Leila]

Found it in thread 4

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2300679&postcount=261

06-16-2008, 03:37 PM
Claycat

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Location: Texas
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This afternoon I was trying to meditate on this horrible crime. I was also drifting in and out of sleep. This is a very hard thing to concentrate on. (I had previously gotten the golden arches, as in McDonald's. A big M.)

Today I got this. "Vehicle idling close by. I can smell the fumes. Just pay, pay for me. Poptarts. They froze. It was sudden. They passed so fast, they didn't realize they were dead at first. He pretended to be asking directions so they had stopped where they were. EternalFlame.com"

What a hodge-podge!

I did look up eternalflame.com. It is a funeral services company. That makes sense. There is also the song Eternal Flame (first by the Bangles and then by Atomic Doll).

Yesterday, I saw a vision of the angel that came down to get them. She was huge and beautiful. She swooped down and wrapped her arms and her wings around them in a gesture of extreme protection (like a swan protecting her offspring) and took them home.

Wow.............that is incredible!

 

[FlowerChild]

It appears that BOTH sets of "parents" moved to Weleetka with their families sort of "together" from OKC in 2005. If that is the case, do both sets of parents have connections to the Bandidos? Do they run in the same crowd and know and socialize with the same people (generally)?

What if the Whitakers and Plackers are somehow connected to to the same "criminal elements"? What if killing Skyla AND Taylor was "killing two birds with one stone" by sending a message to TWO families? If these families are connected (other than the children being BFF's) then GPa's "They killed them" to Skyla's Mom has a whole new meaning. It means Skyla's Mom knew exactly who "they" was and WHY the children had been killed. It also might explain why Taylor (and maybe Skyla too?) was homeschooled since moving to Weleetka until this school year.

If this murder is linked to "something ugly" in OKC that involved both families (and bound them together) it makes total sense that the killer would have looked for or welcomed an opportunity to kill BOTH girls because the killer may have known both girls and had a beef with both families.

Eventually something has got to break here...there is obviously a LOT of the investigation being hidden from the public - perhaps because there is another element that LE knows about but doesn't want made public. And I must say that it's odd that not a single "parent" is in the media begging for help in finding the POI or being interviewed on TV. I don't think it's grief keeping them silent, I think it's a connection and a motive that LE is not yet ready to reveal.

My Opinion

 

[SuziQ]

FC, re your post 350,

I want answers to all of the above!

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

If the family just moved recently to be "safer" and then these girls are murdered in cold blood...it just doesn't seem like coincidence to me. It wouldn't surprise me if the family (or someone in the family) had received a threat of some kind or felt some kind of danger, enough to move. I just don't see this as a random killing. What could be worse to do to somebody than kill their child? Although I can't imagine them being in something so deep as to bring it to that level, I guess it doesn't take much these days. I really am leaning toward this being planned out.

I agree.

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

Good Morning Guy's :blowkiss:

This is a little off track from the sleuthing that is going on in these threads but I thought a little something to lighten your hearts as it did mine might be in order this morning.

This tragedy has weighed heavily on my mind and heart since the beginning my therapy is my flower garden so to the garden I went. As I was pulling weeds I stepped back and noticed that two of my daisy plants had come back strong this year and very large the front on being a Black-eyed Susan and the back one being a very large very bright yellow both getting ready for full bloom. Then all of the sudden into my mind popped the diagram of the angels and how they fell on the side of the road (sorry I don't know who posted it to give credit) and I realized my daisy's were in almost the exact same position in my garden, a wave of sadness took over. I shook my head and decided I had to get away so to the garden shop I went, there I found the cutest large ceramic turtle with two girl angels sitting on his back. Well for one I began to cry then I picked it up and payed and made my way back home. I put it in my garden in between the two daisy's. I said a prayer for the angels and their families and vowed I would never forget EVER. I went back to pulling weeds as I stood up I looked to the turtle and two very large and very beautiful butterflies one was blue and gold the other bright yellow were sitting on the tops of the angels on the turtle. I stood and stared and the feeling came over me that those two angels are with us and will stay with us till the end and their murderous animals are brought to justice. The feeling of joy and happiness filled me in a time were I have felt alot of sadness. Ever since that day whenever I come and go from my home I say good morning and good night to the memory of those little angels that live on in my garden.

I hope that I could give you all a little smile this morning maybe lighten your hearts a little as it did mine.

 

[Ruflossn]

I couldn't sleep so I figured I would log on to read the latest updates. If I understand the latest:

-Both families moved from OKC. (in essence they moved together)
-The Moms worked together at McDonalds.

These are two very telling developments. It definitely ties in why both girls would have been murdered and why the Grandfather stated: 'they killed them'. Emphasis on: they. I have always thought the Grandfather saying "they" was a primary clue that the police probably wish had not been released. Which may be another reason the family is not speaking publicly. Why risk a family member inadvertently releasing more info......... I also think that the 290 arrests made by the Feds in various Oklahoma counties is a great avenue that LE is hoping will turn up more clues. Those that were arrested were the "worst of the worst". From what I can deduce from the news articles.

This case has so many hidden innuendos. It is mind boggling!

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

I just cannot buy the American Indian deal. Possible I just do not want to lower my idea of the "Eagle" and all the honorable stuff. Also possible he was driving by, saw something-pulled over and said "oh sh-t" and boogied. And if it WAS him why did he not take the driver out? I wondered WHY the driver did not pull over to offer help? This was just too weird. Mutually odd either perspective.

I have thought all along that witness was of "convenience." They had time to get a story together. If I felt my "son" or whoever was close to me-may have been involved--I would clear the WHOLE DAMN community by saying it was an Oriental dude. Then cops won't be hanging out day after day in my back yard.

I do not believe the Indian sighting and I NEVER did-except he may have happened upon, heard something and drove up to look, at best. I would polygraph whomever. There is so MUCH illegal crap going on in that area-it may not even be an actual killer they are hiding. It could be a big field of reefer-who knows.

Drug crazed people, would make us feel better to believe. Drug crazed people want money and their goal is their next fix. Killing two girls does not play in at all-as well as druggies are sloppy and this was not sloppy. Also they are unstable and someone would have folded by now. They do not want to attract attention, and are going to care less about to girls-seeing what? A brown paper bag exchanged. It would mean nothing. Last but not least-of a druggie had a gun-they would have sold the gun for drugs.

I am with whoever here feels it was a "message" but I feel it was a show of power and retaliation for something that already happened. Heck, it could have even been an upset dude from eBay.

The only reason that I do believe the NA sighting is real is because of the loooong ponytail. If the witness was going to make up a POI, they would have used someone more generic ie; a NA with shoulder length hair or ponytail. The long long hair is much more unusual. JMHO

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

I already started it.

http://whitakertree.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=whitakertree&view=9&rand=736360617

Same password.

u rock ! :woohoo:

 

[evelyn24]

I couldn't sleep so I figured I would log on to read the latest updates. If I understand the latest:

-Both families moved from OKC. (in essence they moved together)
-The Moms worked together at McDonalds.

These are two very telling developments. It definitely ties in why both girls would have been murdered and why the Grandfather stated: 'they killed them'. Emphasis on: they. I have always thought the Grandfather saying "they" was a primary clue that the police probably wish had not been released. Which may be another reason the family is not speaking publicly. Why risk a family member inadvertently releasing more info......... I also think that the 290 arrests made by the Feds in various Oklahoma counties is a great avenue that LE is hoping will turn up more clues. Those that were arrested were the "worst of the worst". From what I can deduce from the news articles.

This case has so many hidden innuendos. It is mind boggling!

I need to repeat this...we don't know if that is exactly what Taylor's dad said to Skyla's mom. We are getting that from hand me down sources.

As far as the McDonald thing, it's possible CC read that somewhere too. Sorry, but not putting a lot into visions..etc.

 

[cloudajo]

Is anyone following the Topix Weleetka forum? (I guess we can't post a link to another forum?)

Page 64, exchange between Roy and Ruby Gasaway?

Roy and Ruby Gasaway are listed in USA People Search as being in their 70's and located in Weleetka. "Roy" on the Topix board lists himself as located in Elizabeth, AR.

Not sure if they are still together - either they are and possibly posting this stuff for their own amusement, or they aren't together and maybe just angry with each other?

His one post to Ruby says "It been awhile hell. he's been watching you and your butch b****** for the last 5 years. why dont you tell all these good folks about your old friend laz. Tell how you took care of him when everyone else wanted him out of town. tell what you know about these poor little girls and god will forgive you for your sins. last post. get it done."

Thoughts?

 

[cloudajo]

Do we have any posters from the Weleetka area?

I wish we had more/better pictures of Bad Creek Bridge, County Line Rd from Taylor's house all the way to the bridge, crime scene ditch, what's back through the woods behind the crime scene, etc.

 

[Trino]

I've been mildly following Topix. They sure don't like outsiders, and I'm not certain they like each other either (LOL). There are a few statements indicating people might know, but I really don't get a sense that anyone knows more than posters on Websleuths.

One thing that struck me was that locals feel OSBI isn't exactly doing their job and should call in the FBI. Another thing was a statement that the entire town could have been interviewed several times in a few hours.

Ruby also tells Roy to come clean (page 64).

Did you notice this (page 65)? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THIS SIGN SAYS!!!
"There is i big sign right in the middle of weleetka with blood all over it that tell everything about this case and why it happen. No one has even notices it. The know not how to read."