Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #7

[ArizonaGiGi]

Is "Roy" supposed to be from the area? Too bad that he misspelled Weleetka as Waleetka.

LMAO !

 

[CarpeDiem]

I can not even imagine raising kids in this enviornment. If my 10 yr old had to carry a knife to protect themselves while out playing I would be long gone to another area.

Those statements in that article were so strange. I did one of these about the 10 year old and the knife thing - . I would never have my child carrying around a weapon to go play, and it wouldn't serve it's purpose anyway, a 10 year old kid is no match for a drugged out adult or teen.

 

[c2cd208]

Maybe I am crossing the line here, however I grew up in the "country" and @ 13 I would not have had to beg my parents to be alowed to take a walk down the road. For granted I grew up in a different generation as these two young ladies, however they had to have some secrets in order to be so protective of their 13 yo young woman. I think there is a lot that has been discovered in this forum that LE is aware of yet cant not quite finger. I feel the grandparents were where they were for a reason. But why only go such a little distance? I think the G-pa knows who is behind this, only he does not the exact person who carried out the "deed" He said "They" when he was speaking of the murders, I do feel that those words carry some revelance to this case.

 

[poco]

Maybe I am crossing the line here, however I grew up in the "country" and @ 13 I would not have had to beg my parents to be alowed to take a walk down the road. For granted I grew up in a different generation as these two young ladies, however they had to have some secrets in order to be so protective of their 13 yo young woman. I think there is a lot that has been discovered in this forum that LE is aware of yet cant not quite finger. I feel the grandparents were where they were for a reason. But why only go such a little distance? I think the G-pa knows who is behind this, only he does not the exact person who carried out the "deed" He said "They" when he was speaking of the murders, I do feel that those words carry some revelance to this case.

I have yet to see a link where he is actually quoted as saying "they" upon finding their bodies and who did he say this to? Isn't it just as possible that later, after it came up that there were possibly two shooters he was making reference to them at that point and saying "they shot them."

 

[c2cd208]

I have yet to see a link where he is actually quoted as saying "they" upon finding their bodies and who did he say this to? Isn't it just as possible that later, after it came up that there were possibly two shooters he was making reference to them at that point and saying "they shot them."

Quite possible, which would make him witness to the event or there-after which makes it possible that he was one of ther person(s) that helped come up with the sketch that was released to the puclic. But why only one sketch of a POI? Why not two? This entire case is strange.

Some people have made reference here to the Groan Case, however earlier I was thinking about Jeramy Jones, even though I know for a fact it could not have been him (he is on death row), he was mentioned when it come to another case in the general area of two missing girls that have never been found, Laura Bible, and Ashley Freemon. Their bodies have never been found and it was another "Best Friends" situation. They were missing from Welch, OK which is 144 miles apart, however given the time involved a person could have migrated.

So if it was not a "hit" maybe is was a serial killer.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have yet to see a link where he is actually quoted as saying "they" upon finding their bodies and who did he say this to? Isn't it just as possible that later, after it came up that there were possibly two shooters he was making reference to them at that point and saying "they shot them."

I agree, poco and I am not even sure he said it at all. When something is said to someone, then that someone tells another someone and that someone tells another it is a known fact that words can be added or omitted. Talk about hearsay! lol

But even if he did immediately I see nothing sinister about this at all. Everyday of my life I hear people use "they" when they are uncertain exactly on who did the crime or how many. I have found using "they" has a more generalized term even when without a shadow of a doubt I know they are talking about one person only.

The POI sketch has to be very close imo. I am sure all the other eye witnesses that saw this guy that day were ask to look at the composite as well.

I sure wish they would get a break in this case.

IMO

 

[Trino]

I have thought and thought about a motive in this case.

1. I don't believe the family (extended family) is involved.
2. This was not a sexual attack nor does it sound like an abduction attempt, and Creech seems focused on sexual attacks.
3. IMO it was not a senseless act of violence.
4. Just the fact that the POI(s) had major weapons suggests drugs or criminal activity.

Again, with drugs in the area, I think the bridge was a drop-off place, i.e. money for drugs, and I think the girls found something. They were walking and could easily have found a bag, etc. Suppose they found money... The POI could not possibly let them get away.

I also think the POI saw them with it, confronted them, then killed them because they could identify him.

Finally, I'm not so sure the POI(s) is local, meaning around the immediate area.

 

[cloudajo]

Does anyone think any of the leads on the POI have turned up something solid yet? Just reading on the OSBI website about another case where they had a press release issued when they were interviewing the POI and then another same day press release with arrest.

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Different case, press release made when OSBI was interviewing POI for a murder (and gives the person’s name): http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/2007_Press_Releases/PR-3-19-2007_OSBI_Investigates_Early_Morning_Lincoln_County_Shooting.html
Same day press release that the POI was then arrested: http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/2007_Press_Releases/PR-3-19-2007_OSBI_Makes_Arrest_in_Morning_Shooting.html

OSBI - Forensic Laboratory
Some Weleetka Videos for reference
http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Forensic_Laboratory/index.html

 

[GetSmart]

Trino I am agreeing with you. Unless something else comes into play to change my mind. The local quotes about drugs ect.. seem to play right into that line of thinking.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have thought and thought about a motive in this case.

1. I don't believe the family (extended family) is involved.
2. This was not a sexual attack nor does it sound like an abduction attempt, and Creech seems focused on sexual attacks.
3. IMO it was not a senseless act of violence.
4. Just the fact that the POI(s) had major weapons suggests drugs or criminal activity.

Again, with drugs in the area, I think the bridge was a drop-off place, i.e. money for drugs, and I think the girls found something. They were walking and could easily have found a bag, etc. Suppose they found money... The POI could not possibly let them get away.

I also think the POI saw them with it, confronted them, then killed them because they could identify him.

Finally, I'm not so sure the POI(s) is local, meaning around the immediate area.

But even OSBI has said it may have been a failed attempt at abduction.

Trying to contain two people is hard to do so they may not have cooperated with him and he became livid about their defiance and did this as retaliation for being rejected.

imoo

 

[Ruflossn]

According to the ADA Evening Newspaper:

http://www.adaeveningnews.com/local/local_story_172185516.html

Officials continue search for suspect in Weleetka murders
Randy Mitchell Staff Writer

"OSBI Public Information Officer Jessica Brown said the television show America’s Most Wanted aired a short synopsis about the crime Saturday. There will be another airing this Saturday if no suspect or suspects are found by then".


I hope that I am not breaking any rules at the Websleuths website by posting the quotes above. I did post the link. Is that allowed? Sorry for all the questions, I am still learning my way around Websleuths.

My point is posting the above is what I gather, AMW did not show anything about the Oklahoma murders. I did not watch the show last night, but others on this site did and none reported seeing anything on updates, follow ups, etc........ I hope that the above article is correct and the reason that they didn't show anything is that LE is close to an arrest.

If I broke any rules with the above info., please let me know.

 

[SuziQ]

Ruflossn, you did fine with the link and quote. I've been thinking quite often of your bolded quote since AMW didn't air anything on the girls.

 

[cloudajo]

According to the ADA Evening Newspaper:

http://www.adaeveningnews.com/local/local_story_172185516.html

Officials continue search for suspect in Weleetka murders
Randy Mitchell Staff Writer

"OSBI Public Information Officer Jessica Brown said the television show America’s Most Wanted aired a short synopsis about the crime Saturday. There will be another airing this Saturday if no suspect or suspects are found by then".


I hope that I am not breaking any rules at the Websleuths website by posting the quotes above. I did post the link. Is that allowed? Sorry for all the questions, I am still learning my way around Websleuths.

My point is posting the above is what I gather, AMW did not show anything about the Oklahoma murders. I did not watch the show last night, but others on this site did and none reported seeing anything on updates, follow ups, etc........ I hope that the above article is correct and the reason that they didn't show anything is that LE is close to an arrest.

If I broke any rules with the above info., please let me know.

Thanks, no you certainly didn't break any rules. I was wondering the same thing - does it mean they have something?

 

[Ruflossn]

Thanks for letting me know that I successfully accomplished my first link on Websleuths. YEA! Slowly but surely, I am learning the ropes.

:woohoo:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

http://newsok.com/help-with-case-comes-across-boundary-lines/article/3260415/?tm=1214085708

His office has been used for interviews and for lie detector tests, but Rice said most of the loose ends have been tied up and investigators may be close to a big break in the case.

"I believe they are on the right track, and that it's not too far away,” he said. "This is definitely not a dead end as some people think. I know that with something of this magnitude you want someone in jail this second, but there's so much to look at, and so many leads. They have a responsibility to do this right all the way.

 

[SuziQ]

Thanks for the link ocean. That's a positive article. It appears locating the POI is not an easy task.

http://newsok.com/help-with-case-comes-across-boundary-lines/article/3260415/?tm=1214085708

(snip)
"That sketch was in the paper and plastered all over the news,” Rice said. "Do you have any idea how many Indians we have in this county who have long hair and wear a baseball cap?”

Approximately two-thirds of the county has some sort of relation to the Creek tribe, Rice said, and that meant fielding and checking out dozens and dozens of calls saying that the sketch looked like someone. "And we have to check them all out,” he said. "We were overwhelmed, but everyone just wants to help, and we understand that.”

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks for the link ocean. That's a positive article. It appears locating the POI is not an easy task.

http://newsok.com/help-with-case-comes-across-boundary-lines/article/3260415/?tm=1214085708

(snip)
"That sketch was in the paper and plastered all over the news,” Rice said. "Do you have any idea how many Indians we have in this county who have long hair and wear a baseball cap?”

Approximately two-thirds of the county has some sort of relation to the Creek tribe, Rice said, and that meant fielding and checking out dozens and dozens of calls saying that the sketch looked like someone. "And we have to check them all out,” he said. "We were overwhelmed, but everyone just wants to help, and we understand that.”

YW, Suzi.

It sure looks like the POI is the key to this case though.

imoo

 

[Mysterylover]

No, the image I saw would not be old enough or mature enough to even begin producing a mustache. I would place him around 14 maybe if I had to give an actual age. Didn't get another boy with him with his image, just him.
He was very boyish but big for his age. Stocky. That's all I got on him.
Well no, a striped shirt. Boots.

Thanks for responding to me, everybody.

I don't feel like the spurned love theory fits this. It's a good theory, but doesn't feel right.

I enjoy reading everyone's theories and PI work.

This made me remember of something I read after this horrible massacre happened.
Please don't ask me to remember where I read it, I've done a lot of reading a lot of different places.
Someone said, " Two boys ages 18 and 19 yrs. had threatened to kill Taylor, because she had told on them/got them in trouble for DRUGS".....jmo

 

[evelyn24]

http://newsok.com/help-with-case-comes-across-boundary-lines/article/3260415/?tm=1214085708

His office has been used for interviews and for lie detector tests, but Rice said most of the loose ends have been tied up and investigators may be close to a big break in the case.

"I believe they are on the right track, and that it's not too far away,” he said. "This is definitely not a dead end as some people think. I know that with something of this magnitude you want someone in jail this second, but there's so much to look at, and so many leads. They have a responsibility to do this right all the way.

Oh Ocean, thank you.
This could be the reason for AMW not airing an update with the sketch last night.
This coming week could bring us some breaking news.

 

[Mysterylover]

http://newsok.com/help-with-case-comes-across-boundary-lines/article/3260415/?tm=1214085708

His office has been used for interviews and for lie detector tests, but Rice said most of the loose ends have been tied up and investigators may be close to a big break in the case.

"I believe they are on the right track, and that it's not too far away,” he said. "This is definitely not a dead end as some people think. I know that with something of this magnitude you want someone in jail this second, but there's so much to look at, and so many leads. They have a responsibility to do this right all the way.

I had the previous understanding the girls were laying, face up...this article says face down....which would make a big difference in this crime picture.

Quote: Taylor and Skyla were found lying face down in a ditch on the west side of the road.
It became Choate's crime scene, but because the nearest cell phone tower was to the east, it was Rice's office that got the emergency call that sent his deputies scrambling.....imo