Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #9

[GetSmart]

Well now that they are taking the next step (National) does this mean Nancy Grace, Greta, Geraldo...(The 3 G's) will give it more coverage? I hope someone does for goodness sake.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I was born and raised in NE Oklahoma. My family still lives there. I have several relatives in law enforcement however none in Weleetka. Actually my dad and uncle are both retired now. I called my dad to get some insight on the case and he was very quiet. My mom lives 20 minutes from Weleetka. I talked to her earlier today and this is what she told me a couple of days after -so it is just what I heard-That a threat was called in the evening of the crime, to shoot any LEO out in the area. Could be a prank I don't know. She said gossip at first, was about the girls witnessing a drug deal. But now she said the feeling is they have run out of leads. One of the first responders asked her to pray for them. If I hear any thing else that is helpful I will let you know.

Very interesting Fl..I think that it seems plausible whoever did this would not find it unusual to make a threat to LE.

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

I wonder if the dog's behavior might indicate that the girls were shot from the front/south, and it retreated to the only safety available to the north. Then, there were ambulances and crime scene specialists late in the night on that road. I can see the dog retreating to the bridge until the next day since his means to go home was blocked for the next 18 hours or so.

Ya I have a big question about why the dog didn't hightail it home for so long. It was definitely with the girls and was terrified. Too bad it can't talk!

 

[kahskye]

Then I think he/they would've shot the dog and not the girls, no?

He may have shot at the dog and missed. In his vengful state, he opened fired on the girls making sure not to miss again.

Edited to add: due to the activity on that road and the rain, the dog might have seeked shelter under the bridge.

 

[murdershewrote]

Glad they are going national, but I certainly hope they had sent this sketch to all other LE agencies before this...

Have any lab tests come back on the girls...DNA under their fingernails, hair on their clothing, rape kit, anything at all??? What's taking so long. LE needs to start releasing all of what they know...everything they found in the area. I'm sure the same people hang out at this bridge all the time...I find it hard to believe that nobody knows anything. I think somebody is hiding information. In this case, we have two bodies, tire tracks, sketch, description of vehicle, bullet casings, timeline, witness...crimes have been solved with alot less.

 

[Littledeer]

WOW, great job sleuthers!! :clap:

So it's been confirmed that there was a dog with the girls. It was found the NEXT DAY by the bridge.

I really am having a hard time wrapping my head around this scenario. First, I would think the killer or killers would have shot the dog to prevent any interference it might create to protect the girls (lunging at the feet, etc.). So, maybe the dog wasn't right with the girls at that time (maybe it had moved off into the woods a little to do it's thing?) and the girls were just standing there waiting for him to come back?

Then when the shots rang out, I can understand a dog running away from the sound, but I would think after the sound is gone, it would return to the spot where the girls were at??

Does anyone know what type of personality a chichaua (sp?) has??

 

[Garnan]

Then I think he/they would've shot the dog and not the girls, no?

Chihuahua's are fast. I'm not kidding, also a very, very small target. If he was trying to shoot the dog, the girls would have been on him like white on rice.

 

[murdershewrote]

sorry, I missing something...how do we know for sure that this dog was with the girls?

 

[Littledeer]

That's what I mean Garnan.

They are fast. So if he sensed the girls were in danger, why didn't he react to it?

 

[philamena]

they would be crying and screaming. there would also be a dead dog or its blood on the road.

btw where is the dog?

Excellent points BB. :clap:

 

[DeltaDawn]

On one of the first news videos it talks about the little dog going along with the girls for the walk. Then we heard nothing more about the little dog. Kahskye emailed a reporter and he emailed back that the little dog was found alive the next day at the bridge.

 

[Littledeer]

I noticed where some posters have seen the video of Peter Placker, did you also see the video of the other grandfather Tony Paschal-Placker that I posted this morning under Videos?

Maybe, I should have put it in the Media Thead..............

 

[philamena]

Just got another email from Johnny. osbi is now going nationwide in their search. not sure exactly what that means except for it doesn't sound like they are finding what they are looking for.


http://www.crimeweb.net:80/details.asp?id=12544

Nationwide? hummm does that mean OSBI knows the killer isn't in town?
Isn't even in the state?

 

[Garnan]

That's what I mean Garnan.

They are fast. So if he sensed the girls were in danger, why didn't he react to it?

I don't understand your point, the dog did re-act, he ran and hid. That's so typical of a little dog. If I have a plumber or somebody like that at my house, mine immediately get under something, coffee table or whatever. That little dog ran and got under the bridge.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I noticed where some posters have seen the video of Peter Placker, did you also see the video of the other grandfather Tony Paschal-Placker that I posted this morning under Videos?

Maybe, I should have put it in the Media Thead..............

When I clicked on the one that you have linked in the video thread it is the one of Peter Placker.

Do you have the link Littledeer. I hadn't heard the one by Tony.

thanks

 

[murdershewrote]

so this dog was not one of the girls' dogs...just another dog that happened to be tagging along with them both going to the bridge and back? I mean, if it was her dog, then I would think the grandfather (father) would have mentioned that her dog came back that night, or didn't come back that night, after their bodies were found. I think that would have been an important bit of information. Was this a stray or does it belong to someone? Oh, how I wish doggies could talk.

 

[athy]

the dog could have been chasing the truck also. these dogs are small and skittish but they're also loyal. it might have only been able to chase the killer/killers so far before losing it which could explain why it wasn't found until next day. especially considering i'm sure the LE was up by the bridge that night.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

so this dog was not one of the girls' dogs...just another dog that happened to be tagging along with them both going to the bridge and back? I mean, if it was her dog, then I would think the grandfather (father) would have mentioned that her dog came back that night, or didn't come back that night, after their bodies were found. I think that would have been an important bit of information. Was this a stray or does it belong to someone? Oh, how I wish doggies could talk.

From what the reporter said it was one of Taylor's dogs. They had several dogs the reporter said.

imoo

 

[Littledeer]

Garnan:

First let me apologize. Didn't mean to use the word "point" to come out harshly.

A scenario, I am walking with my dog, a person comes up to me in a threatening manner, my dog would be on high alert, maybe even growl. If that person would take a step closer to me and I said something in a scared voice or screamed, he would probably have lunged toward that person to protect me.

So I was wondering why this dog didn't? Is it not in a that type of breed to react that way?

You had mentioned that Chihuahua's are fast, are they also protective?

Am I making any sense here?

 

[murdershewrote]

I find it fascinating that LE could track this little dog's prints to the bridge and back (if I'm reading the posts correctly), yet they don't have any footprints of the perp(s) right at the scene. That seems very odd to me.