Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #9

[DeltaDawn]

This is what I was trying to get at yesterday. Maybe there is some truth to the 18 year olds accusation about having seen the POI on their property prior to and after the murders. May be the part of the lie detector test she failed was just about IDing him that day. If she were home alone or with younger brothers and sister, and she heard noises..maybe she became afraid and called police assuming it was this guy back on their property. She failed the lie detector test..but we don't know which questions..maybe just the ones about that day.

 

[tulsa]

Is there supposed to be a connection between this incident and "the girl"? Both are mentioned in the topix post from last night and I dont' know what to make of it. Maybe I need more coffee.

http://www.kjrh.com/content/news/2viewgc/story.aspx?content_id=3522da7e-2be9-4406-a3ae-3a5ece48beeb

 

[Trino]

Why would anyone hang around after killing two young girls? IMO they've most likely ditched the truck, too.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why would anyone hang around after killing two young girls? IMO they've most likely ditched the truck, too.

I don't think so. I think they have been long gone and most likely the truck is now at the bottom of some river or deep lake by now.

I also believe that most likely the weapons have been fully dismantled and destroyed by now and tossed somewhere much further away from the scene.

imoo

 

[DeltaDawn]

If that is a good likeness then I would figure they are gone...but if it is generic and does not resemble them enough for someone to have ID'd them yet..then they still maybe in the general area. They maybe from Henryetta or some other town and live on the outskirts of the farms.

 

[christine2448]

Sooner Fan,
Why don't you spill what you obviously know?
tia

Or doesn't

 

[Claycat]

Evidently a trooper was attacked in the area last night. I don't know whether it has anything to do with this case or not.

http://newsok.com/man-arrested-in-assault-on-ohp-trooper/article/3262912

 

[DeltaDawn]

Evidently a trooper was attacked in the area last night. I don't know whether it has anything to do with this case or not.

http://newsok.com/man-arrested-in-assault-on-ohp-trooper/article/3262912

They were talking about this on Topix last night. Never gave all the details. It would be interesting to see a pic of this man they arrested on a routine traffic stop.

 

[tulsa]

They were talking about this on Topix last night. Never gave all the details. It would be interesting to see a pic of this man they arrested on a routine traffic stop.

Okmulgee county jail inmate Joe Dean Smith

http://okokmulgee.jailsoftware.com/PressArrestRelease.asp?itbSiteID=6&ArrestNo=2008001437

 

[christine2448]

I wonder if that is his real name? Joe Smith Ya think?

Thanks tulsa...I was just searching for the same.

Fresh hair cut?

 

[tulsa]

Looks like he's had short haircuts before

http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/s...um=198168&offender_book_id=90784&imageindex=2

 

[Annie]

I think he looks a lot like the picture of the POI if you cover up the top part of his head. But again there are probably hundreds of men in OK who do. He doesn't have a pony tail, but I have been wondering about that. How did the witness get such a good look at both his front and back to get such details. Did the man turn around for him and how long did he actually see him?

 

[FlowerChild]

He isn't the POI, if the sketch and description of the POI are accurate. He's got naturally redish/auburn hair, blue eyes, is very fair and is 5'9". He appears to be a dope dealer - probably had a bale of marijuana in the car when he was stopped.

While he might be involved in the murders he isn't someone LE is publicly looking for in relation to the case. This guy appears to be just another dope head criminal.

My Opinion

 

[Annie]

He isn't the POI, if the sketch and description of the POI are accurate. He's got naturally redish/auburn hair, blue eyes, is very fair and is 5'9". He appears to be a dope dealer - probably had a bale of marijuana in the car when he was stopped.

While he might be involved in the murders he isn't someone LE is publicly looking for in relation to the case. This guy appears to be just another dope head criminal.

My Opinion

Reddish/auburn? Look at picture 4.

http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/s...um=198168&offender_book_id=90784&imageindex=4

 

[Garnan]

Garnan:

First let me apologize. Didn't mean to use the word "point" to come out harshly.

A scenario, I am walking with my dog, a person comes up to me in a threatening manner, my dog would be on high alert, maybe even growl. If that person would take a step closer to me and I said something in a scared voice or screamed, he would probably have lunged toward that person to protect me.

So I was wondering why this dog didn't? Is it not in a that type of breed to react that way?

You had mentioned that Chihuahua's are fast, are they also protective?

Am I making any sense here?

Gosh, Littledeer, no apology necessary. I currently have two chihuahuas and had another one prior, that passed away. I can't see them ever chasing after someone who they would perceive as a threat. If I am holding them on my lap, they will snap at someone and bite them if the reach for me, but they wouldn't go after someone. Deep down, they know they are little, they just project that they are big, LOL. Mine act real tough, as long as they are within about 6 inches of me. They would NEVER go after someone. Maybe other chihuahua's are different, but that's been my experience. Maybe other people don't baby theirs as much as I do, but I doubt it. Especially little girls.

 

[strach304]

This interview is wonderful. Finally, someone has profiled the killers. Furhman believes there were two/three involved, that it was drug related, and one person is local. (Local might mean extended local.) He believes the girls witnessed something, or the killers thought they witnessed something, or that one of the killers (local?) would be recognized. Furhman also stated he thought the killers had training of some sort: two hits to the chest, one to the head. This, to Furhman, indicated possible police or military training, although Furhman seemed to emphasize more the police training aspect.

IMO these killings fit with drug running. These people have no morals and would "take out " anyone, including children, who got in their way. The interviewer referenced the drug related familing killing in Port Lucie, FL, where the very young children were shot along with the mother and father.[/QUOTE

A local dirty cop that both girls would recognize would certainly explain the manner and reason behind this whole thing.

 

[Garnan]

I have to agree with you, I saw that post. That poor woman!!

I just heard that they arrested the husband. I have not seen any of the articles yet, but it does restore some of my faith in TPD.

 

[FlowerChild]

I think he looks a lot like the picture of the POI if you cover up the top part of his head. But again there are probably hundreds of men in OK who do. He doesn't have a pony tail, but I have been wondering about that. How did the witness get such a good look at both his front and back to get such details. Did the man turn around for him and how long did he actually see him?

The sketch artist said he worked with more than one witness - perhaps one saw his face, and one saw him from the side or back?

Anyone else note that the sketch artist (Harvey Pratt) is Native American with a long pony tail past his shoulder? The sketch artist himself is an example of what a Native American might look like - complexion, hair color and texture, sparse facial hair, bone structure etc.

Native Americans sometimes do not look their actual age - I know the description says 35 - but I am thinking an age range could be from 30-50.

My Opinion

 

[FlowerChild]

Reddish/auburn? Look at picture 4.

http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/s...um=198168&offender_book_id=90784&imageindex=4

Picture # 1 is most recent (Jan 06) and his hair is dark red as it is in several of the older ones. The description says hair is brown - assume at times it's darker - but it sure appears reddish to me - and it goes with his very fair, ruddy complexion.

The point being that without significant makeup, contacts and a wig no one who is from Oklahoma or has lived there for more than a few months is going to describe this person as even part Native American. As I said, he might be involved, but he doesn't seem to match the sketch or the description of the POI.

My Opinion

 

[christine2448]

Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation

A. DeWade Langley
Director

Jessica Brown
Public Information Director

06/24/08 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE​

Weleetka Murders Investigation Continues​

Wednesday morning, a dog trained by the ATF and its handler will search the area where the two Okfuskee girls were killed looking for any clues left behind by the killer(s). The dog is specially trained to detect anything using gunpowder, i.e. bullet casings. The ATF volunteered the dog.
The dog, its handler and OSBI agents will meet at 9 a.m. at the Cowpokes restaurant parking lot on Highway 75 off of 1-40. All media present will pick one representative from each outlet (tv, radio, newspaper) to be the pool.
As this search is happening, other OSBI agents will be running on a mountain of leads gathered so far in this case. An OSBI representative will be available at the scene to speak with media.​