SL Tribune Article with Steven P. and Susan website created by Josh

  • #521
SUSAN M. POWELL
CRD# 4840292

Currently employed by and registered with the following FINRA Firms:
WELLS FARGO INVESTMENTS, LLC
5201 AMELIA EARHART DR
3RD FLOOR
SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84116
CRD# 10582
Registered with this firm since: 2/5/2008

Josh Powell filed for bankruptcy: 4/5/2007

Registration and Employment History
This broker was previously registered with the following FINRA member firms:

FIDELITY BROKERAGE SERVICES LLC
CRD# 7784
SMITHFIELD, RI
11/2005 - 05/2006

FIDELITY BROKERAGE SERVICES LLC
CRD# 7784
SMITHFIELD, RI
09/2004 - 05/2005

http://brokercheck.finra.org/Indivi...ual&FirmKey=-1&BrokerKey=4840292&IndvlCtgry=1
 
  • #522
Josh Powell's real estate and broker's license verification:

Principal Broker's license:
https://secure.utah.gov/rer/relv?page=page.search.details&id=4066144

Name JOSH POWELL
City, State, Zip SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84128
Profession Real Estate Agents/Companies
License Type Principal Broker
License # 5655486-PB00
License Status Active
Status Change Reason License Issuance
Original Issue Date 11/12/2008
Expiration Date 09/30/2010
Disciplinary Action None
Phone 8019946751/CELL
Company Name JOSH POWELL
Real Estate Company license:
https://secure.utah.gov/rer/relv?page=page.search.details&id=4136836

Name JOSH POWELL
City, State, Zip SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84128
Profession Real Estate Agents/Companies
License Type Real Estate Company
License # 7186104-CN00
License Status Active
Status Change Reason License Issuance
Original Issue Date 11/12/2008
Expiration Date N/A
Disciplinary Action None
Phone *(801) 967-6900
Company Name JOSH POWELL

This is absolutely him. I recognize the *phone number. I wonder if he picked that number himself!? I'll bet he did!

It appears he was running this real estate company business while he was employed at the place he got fired from! Note the Original Issue Dates. Or, are these records of renewals of previously issued licenses?

Search yourself: https://secure.utah.gov/rer/relv

He probably got his "RE Agent" license before he got the "RE Broker" license.

I think he had to sell under a Broker as an agent. The Broker receives a cut of the Agent's commission.

By obtaining his Broker's License he was his own boss and could have employed other RE Agents.

Apparently it didn't much matter which type of license he had. He failed miserably as a Real Estate Salesman like he failed at everything else -- or QUIT at everything else. :loser:
 
  • #523
I don't know anything about bankruptcies. Can anyone explain to me how a person can filed as a single person when he is married? I can see how one person can have debt that is solely their own, but aren't assets jointly own when you are married, unless there was a prenuptial signed? (I highly doubt they had a prenuptial agreement).

I would think it is like the IRS, even when only one person earns the income - both people have to sign the tax papers. They are both ultimately responsible what is in the report is accurate.

There is one thing that many married people want to know as they file for bankruptcy. This is whether their spouse will be affected. The answer that has been given to this question is in the affirmative. However, note that your spouse will only get affected if there is any loan that they co-signed with you the debtor. Another thing that may affect them is any property which may have to be sold off and which you own jointly.

If your spouse is seen to be doing well financially, they may be forced to pay up for your debts. But this is only if they had co-signed the loan with you. One more thing concerning spouses that you might need to know is, whether you must file for bankruptcy together. While this might not be necessary, it would be advisable to file a joint case.
http://articles.directorym.com/Myths_About_Bankruptcy_Utah-r1154797-Utah.html
 
  • #524
Yup, that's what I read too. And guess when they moved to Utah?

2004.

Susan started working as soon as they moved to Utah. I wonder if "Mr. Magna 🤬🤬🤬 Laude" was working at all? I bet he wasn't.

He was probably going to RE school so he could earn $4,800 per month by selling a total of two or three houses in what? _ three - four years ?

I guess he must have been selling $950,000 homes to average $4,800 per month from a $57,000, 6% commission divided by 12. Yeah right! :rolleyes: _ West Valley City and West Jordan are just LOADED with $950,000 houses that Josh was selling.

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE! :liar: _ :furious:
Josh doesn't need a campfire to roast those marshmallows.
moo

Wouldn't Josh have had to provide proof of his income as attachments? I'd like to see his JOINT tax return for that same time period to see if the numbers jive! Is there any way we can get hold of that document?
 
  • #525
The more of this that comes out, the more I wonder what on earth Susan expected to have changed by a month from now. All he had to do was sit down shut up and tithe regularly for her to again see a glimmer of the shining armor of the man she married? She might have not agreed to the bankruptcy, and so he went ahead with it on his own since he had that option? That would be a splinter that would surely fester.
 
  • #526
The more of this that comes out, the more I wonder what on earth Susan expected to have changed by a month from now. All he had to do was sit down shut up and tithe regularly for her to again see a glimmer of the shining armor of the man she married? She might have not agreed to the bankruptcy, and so he went ahead with it on his own since he had that option? That would be a splinter that would surely fester.

Maybe that deadline was really set for herself. Maybe she set a time frame for her to save enough money to start over on her own? I remember reading Jovanna's comments how Josh was cooking dinner (which she stated was unusual for him) and that Susan felt chilly, and Josh brought her a blanket. Jovanna stated that Susan commented how it was nice for Josh to do that (again sounds like it was not like him - why comment on something that was a normal occurrence?) Maybe Josh thought he was doing enough to convince Susan to forget about a divorce, but he later discovered that it was still on her mind.
 
  • #527
The more of this that comes out, the more I wonder what on earth Susan expected to have changed by a month from now. All he had to do was sit down shut up and tithe regularly for her to again see a glimmer of the shining armor of the man she married? She might have not agreed to the bankruptcy, and so he went ahead with it on his own since he had that option? That would be a splinter that would surely fester.

Susan, I believe, wanted out of the marriage for a long time but was raised to believe she should stay in her marriage and follow whatever avenue seemed appropriate to make it work.

Susan, I believe, knew full well Josh Powell would never change but felt she had to follow a particular path to arrive at a point where she would not feel guilty about ending her marriage.

Josh totally resented Susan for setting goals (laying down ultimatums) because he was accustomed to being in charge and did not like being told what to do.

Susan knew Josh would not like the fact she set goals for him but felt she must follow the advice of her church appointed counselor so did in fact do just that.

Because Susan feared for her life, she wrote the note at work stating if she were ever found dead, that it wouldn't be by suicide.

Knowing her life was in danger, Susan still felt the need to follow church protocol, something which lead to her demise.

Susan was afraid to stay and afraid to leave. Josh had her in a tough spot. Because of the past history regarding her father-in-law taking the children away from Josh's mother, and the fact Steve Powell's father tricked his wife into going away for a weekend visit during which he and his parents left town and moved to Weed, California without telling Steve's mother where they were going, Susan had every right to fear what would happen if she tried to divorce Josh.

The night of December 6, 2009, I believe Josh totally lost his temper and struck or shoved Susan, causing a severe enough injury that she either attempted or threatened to call the police. When Josh realized he would be charged with assault and battery and that Susan could file for a domestic violence restraining order which would include a move out order, he decided that he would not allow her to get away with that and killed her!

Tim Peterson reported Josh Powell allegedly said to his (Tim's) wife, "It isn't like I stabbed her or anything." To me, Josh was saying, "When I killed her, I used my bare hands. It wasn't like I went into the kitchen, got a butcher knife and stabbed her. There wasn't blood everywhere."

There is no doubt in my mind Josh Powell killed Susan and I believe it had everything to do with the fact that he knew she was going to divorce him because he had not been meeting any of the goals she had set for him. With the Powell's wedding anniversary, the date Susan had set for Josh to accomplish the goals, rapidly approaching, and knowing full well he had no intention or desire to make the required changes, Josh was becoming more and more resentful as each day passed until he finally lost it.

I believe Susan was embarrassed of her husband's peculiar behavior and the fact that none of her friends liked him. Telling her friends more bad things about Josh than they already knew from hearing stories from others or witnessing his peculiar behavior first hand would make Susan feel even less confident about herself for doing so would make her look like a fool for marrying the guy to begin with. Because of this, I think she kept a lot of what was really going on to herself.

Considering all she was going through, and we only have bits and pieces, I am surprised Susan managed to maintain her job. Surely there had to be signs of her unhappiness. Yet, we see "tons" of photos of her smiling looking as though she was on top of the world, something which has me totally confused.
 
  • #528
The more of this that comes out, the more I wonder what on earth Susan expected to have changed by a month from now. All he had to do was sit down shut up and tithe regularly for her to again see a glimmer of the shining armor of the man she married? She might have not agreed to the bankruptcy, and so he went ahead with it on his own since he had that option? That would be a splinter that would surely fester.

There is also a STRONG possibility that Susan was denying Josh sex and that the Sunday afternoon meal, blanket covering and all the sweetness was really foreplay because Josh wanted SEX! It could be that when he made his advances, Susan rejected him once again causing him to become totally enraged!

This sounds far fetched, but, there is also the possibility that Josh put a date rape type drug in Susan's beverage and that she died of an overdose. Could the stains on the living room carpet have been from a drug induced, high volume, female climax called a gusher?
 
  • #529
Susan, I believe, wanted out of the marriage for a long time but was raised to believe she should stay in her marriage and follow whatever avenue seemed appropriate to make it work.

Susan, I believe, knew full well Josh Powell would never change but felt she had to follow a particular path to arrive at a point where she would not feel guilty about ending her marriage.

Josh totally resented Susan for setting goals (laying down ultimatums) because he was accustomed to being in charge and did not like being told what to do.

Susan knew Josh would not like the fact she set goals for him but felt she must follow the advice of her church appointed counselor so did in fact do just that.

Because Susan feared for her life, she wrote the note at work stating if she were ever found dead, that it wouldn't be by suicide.

Knowing her life was in danger, Susan still felt the need to follow church protocol, something which lead to her demise.

Susan was afraid to stay and afraid to leave. Josh had her in a tough spot. Because of the past history regarding her father-in-law taking the children away from Josh's mother, and the fact Steve Powell's father tricked his wife into going away for a weekend visit during which he and his parents left town and moved to Weed, California without telling Steve's mother where they were going, Susan had every right to fear what would happen if she tried to divorce Josh.

The night of December 6, 2009, I believe Josh totally lost his temper and struck or shoved Susan, causing a severe enough injury that she either attempted or threatened to call the police. When Josh realized he would be charged with assault and battery and that Susan could file for a domestic violence restraining order which would include a move out order, he decided that he would not allow her to get away with that and killed her!

Tim Peterson reported Josh Powell allegedly said to his (Tim's) wife, "It isn't like I stabbed her or anything." To me, Josh was saying, "When I killed her, I used my bare hands. It wasn't like I went into the kitchen, got a butcher knife and stabbed her. There wasn't blood everywhere."

There is no doubt in my mind Josh Powell killed Susan and I believe it had everything to do with the fact that he knew she was going to divorce him because he had not been meeting any of the goals she had set for him. With the Powell's wedding anniversary, the date Susan had set for Josh to accomplish the goals, rapidly approaching, and knowing full well he had no intention or desire to make the required changes, Josh was becoming more and more resentful as each day passed until he finally lost it.

I believe Susan was embarrassed of her husband's peculiar behavior and the fact that none of her friends liked him. Telling her friends more bad things about Josh than they already knew from hearing stories from others or witnessing his peculiar behavior first hand would make Susan feel even less confident about herself for doing so would make her look like a fool for marrying the guy to begin with. Because of this, I think she kept a lot of what was really going on to herself.

Considering all she was going through, and we only have bits and pieces, I am surprised Susan managed to maintain her job. Surely there had to be signs of her unhappiness. Yet, we see "tons" of photos of her smiling looking as though she was on top of the world, something which has me totally confused.

Excellent - Perfect - Concise - Synopsis, PickieChickie!

I agree with every single word you wrote. It's sooo tragically sad - and sooo tragically needless - for sooo many different and tragic reasons. :mad:
 
  • #530
Some people at the Puyallup vigil were surprised Josh Powell didn't show up. He now lives nearby in Puyallup with their two kids, moving there from Utah a few weeks ago.

"I think it's odd. I think he should be here," says Cox. "I wish he was. I wish he would come forward and talk to police."
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/86753862.html

When Josh showed up at the first Puyallup candlelight vigil, Mr. Cox was puzzled as to why he came:
"Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, wrote on a Facebook page for friends and family that he didn't understand why Josh was at the vigil."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580882,00.html
 
  • #531
Wouldn't Josh have had to provide proof of his income as attachments? I'd like to see his JOINT tax return for that same time period to see if the numbers jive! Is there any way we can get hold of that document?

(bbm)
I have no idea. I don't know about bankruptcies at all -- have fortunately never been there and don't personally know anyone who has.

However, if the bankruptcy forms are aimed to have thousands and thousands of unpaid bills wiped off the books and totally forgiven, I would think that all assets and income would have to be honestly and legally verified.

We don't fill in our Federal and State Income Tax forms haphazardly and arbitrarily. We darn well better tell the truth and be able to PROVE our figures or we could end up in jail.

Are bankruptcy forms so different? If they are, they sure shouldn't be! After all, in the end it's really us - Jane and Joe Blow who get shafted!

As far as I know, Income Tax Returns are totally private. I don't think they're available to the public anywhere. Darn!
 
  • #532
There is also a STRONG possibility that Susan was denying Josh sex and that the Sunday afternoon meal, blanket covering and all the sweetness was really foreplay because Josh wanted SEX! It could be that when he made his advances, Susan rejected him once again causing him to become totally enraged!

This sounds far fetched, but, there is also the possibility that Josh put a date rape type drug in Susan's beverage and that she died of an overdose. Could the stains on the living room carpet have been from a drug induced, high volume, female climax called a gusher?

(bbm)
I bet you're sending a bunch of us a googlin' on this one Pickie! :waitasec: _ :D
 
  • #533
Susan worked at Wells Fargo, not Fidelity. The only thing I can remember dating her employment there was 2008, she told friends about keeping a notebook at her office which detailed threats made against her.

She started at Fidelity before moving to Wells Fargo.

"Susan gave up her goal of working as a hairstylist shortly after relocating to Utah to help Joshua with his real estate business. She later worked with Fidelity and got a job at Wells Fargo, working as an assistant stockbroker, where she helped people with transactions over the phone."

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_14035282?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com
 
  • #534
(bbm)
I bet you're sending a bunch of us a googlin' on this one Pickie! :waitasec: _ :D
Because of the research I've done, I am familiar with this which often happens when women are under the influence of methamphetamine:
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation[/ame]
 
  • #535
I don't know anything about bankruptcies. Can anyone explain to me how a person can filed as a single person when he is married? I can see how one person can have debt that is solely their own, but aren't assets jointly own when you are married, unless there was a prenuptial signed? (I highly doubt they had a prenuptial agreement).

I would think it is like the IRS, even when only one person earns the income - both people have to sign the tax papers. They are both ultimately responsible what is in the report is accurate.

I know a little bit about bankruptcies from my work and education (no, I have not filed myself!). But I am no expert.

A married person can file bankruptcy without including their spouse. Happens all the time. It can be dangerous for the spouse, however, because creditors can find ways to go after the spouse for certain kinds of debt. If the debts Josh is listing were only for his stuff--like the magnets--I doubt they could go after Susan. If the credit card debt, like the Home Depot account was used for purchases that benefited them both--like home improvements--then Susan could be held liable and could have her income garnished. I suspect they wanted to keep a good credit name for one of them, so only Josh filed bankruptcy. I am sure his lawyer advised him properly.

Since only Josh filed, Susan would not have signed any papers. She may not have ever even seen them!

Also, bankruptcy is done through federal court, not state court, so the local DA would have no jurisdiction re: perjury. A federal court would be the one to look into it. I would think it would be worth the local DA's time and effort to see if the feds couldn't find a perjury charge so they could at least pick him up and make him sweat.
 
  • #536
Did Josh go on an LDS mission? I know that Josh and Susan were married in a LDS temple. I was just thinking that 25 years old is a little "old" for an LDS man to get married, they are generally encouraged to marry within a year of serving an LDS mission (which would be around age 21 or 22). An LDS bishop I know says if a Mormon male is still single after age 25, there is usually something wrong with them.

Most LDS returned missionaries do tend to marry within a couple years of returning home. I doubt Josh served a mission. He would not have had the support needed at home to do so, plus he is an extremely selfish person.

On a side note, your comment about 25 being "old" tickled my funny bone. My husband, a returned missionary, was 33 before we married (I was 19). I think his family had all but given up on him. Guess he was just waiting for the right gal! <wink> It's been 27 years this May since we married.
 
  • #537
SUSAN M. POWELL
CRD# 4840292

Currently employed by and registered with:
WELLS FARGO INVESTMENTS, LLC
Registered with this firm since: 2/5/2008

Josh Powell filed for bankruptcy: 4/5/2007

This broker was previously registered with
FIDELITY BROKERAGE SERVICES LLC
11/2005 - 05/2006
09/2004 - 05/2005
(snipped)
Thanks, Picky-- From this we can assume that Susan was working as a broker since at least September, 2004
 
  • #538
(snipped)
Thanks, Picky-- From this we can assume that Susan was working as a broker since at least September, 2004

This broker was previously registered with
FIDELITY BROKERAGE SERVICES LLC
11/2005 - 05/2006
09/2004 - 05/2005

Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC is located in Rhode Island. I believe she studied online or through a correspondence course. She didn't actually hold an official job as a stockbroker until she started working at Wells Fargo, if I'm not mistaken.

Source: http://brokercheck.finra.org/Indivi...ual&FirmKey=-1&BrokerKey=4840292&IndvlCtgry=1
 
  • #539
(snipped)
Thanks, Picky-- From this we can assume that Susan was working as a broker since at least September, 2004

So Josh was totally LYING on his Bankruptcy papers. Now, did he lie to his attorney as well? Or did his attorney aid and abet his big lie.

Also, I thought that at the very end of a bankruptcy case, the debtor has to appear before a Judge and swear that everything is true. The judge is free to ask questions of the debtor. The judge might ask about current income, current job status. Might ask why the spouse is not working if money is so tight. I wonder if Josh appeared? Or if the Judge asked any questions?

It seems to me this huge lie would be worth something!
 
  • #540
Because of the research I've done, I am familiar with this which often happens when women are under the influence of methamphetamine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation

Sheesh, I thought I was gonna be reading about "Old Faithful."

They're talking about average *gushes* of 1-5 ml.

5 ml equals one teaspoon.


Even if the *gusher* was 10 times larger it would still be a pretty tiny amount -- 3.3 Tablespoons.

I don't think that kind of *gusher* would have caused a wet spot on the living room carpeting that would have required two big box fans to dry.

Sorry Pickie, No congratulatory cigar this time. :D
 

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