Small Details that are interesting in the Cooper Harris case, #1

[blue22]

Thanks for this. They are also saying the internet searches were misrepresented and that Harris was "oblivious to the other man" who passed him in the parking lot.

Oopsy.

I would consider fake fiddling with your phone and stopping, a clear indication that he knew someone was there as was quite uncomfortable with it. This will be a demeanor thing. It will be up to the jury to decide if they feel his demeanor showed he was nervous about this person. Of course, the defense will say it does not. OF COURSE, they will say that the searches were misrepresented. If they didn't, they would be a terrible defense team.

None of these things are proof that LE did a single thing wrong. They are proof that a defense attorney is acting like one, and desperately trying to spin any tine thing they can.

I can't understand why anyone is at all surprised by this, or thinks it reflects on LE's investigation. This is how it works. LE saying something and the defense says nope.

 

[blue22]

I call BS on the whole cruise thing unless it was booked.

He allegedly hounded his brother for months, didn't have dates and details or at a minimum a deposit down? Please!

IMO


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He hounded him for months, and the brother came to him a month and a half ago saying let's go. I really think he considered the cruise thing, but could never hope to afford it. Cooper is dead just a short time after the brother says let's go.

 

[blue22]

I didnt know Cooper. I doubt very much it would have been appropriate for Cooper. However, I've known many children very capable of thoroughly enjoying the kiddie water park. My own could swim like a fish underwater and he could float at that age. He grew up in and around our pool though and took baby classes too.


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But the specific cruise does not allow kids who aren't potty trained in ANY pool.

 

[Linda7NJ]

He hounded him for months, and the brother came to him a month and a half ago saying let's go. I really think he considered the cruise thing, but could never hope to afford it. Cooper is dead just a short time after the brother says let's go.

He took over the finances, cruises are cheap and super easy to book. RH would have had no problem using his credit card. IMO



Pool Rules

· No lifeguards are on duty

· Use pool at your own risk

· Use ladders to enter and exit the pool

· Watch your step on wet surfaces

· Showers are required prior to use and recommended after use



The Following are Strictly Prohibited:

· Children who are not toilet trained (and those in diapers or swim diapers) are not allowed in any of the water facilities onboard, as per United States Public Health Services. Toilet trained children should be taken on frequent bathroom breaks. Note: This includes the Kiddies Pools.
Diving or jumping in the pool. All pools are too shallow for safe diving
Alcohol and glass containers
No smoking
Horseplay – Act responsibly at all times




IMO maybe he found out children not yet potty trained can not use the ANY of the facilities.


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[blue22]

He took over the finances, cruises are cheap and super easy to book. RH would have had no problem using his credit card. IMO



Pool Rules

· No lifeguards are on duty

· Use pool at your own risk

· Use ladders to enter and exit the pool

· Watch your step on wet surfaces

· Showers are required prior to use and recommended after use



The Following are Strictly Prohibited:

· Children who are not toilet trained (and those in diapers or swim diapers) are not allowed in any of the water facilities onboard, as per United States Public Health Services. Toilet trained children should be taken on frequent bathroom breaks. Note: This includes the Kiddies Pools.
Diving or jumping in the pool. All pools are too shallow for safe diving
Alcohol and glass containers
No smoking
Horseplay – Act responsibly at all times




IMO maybe he found out children not yet potty trained can not use the ANY of the facilities.


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Wait, he took over the finances after Cooper's death right? I was talking about before.

If his card(s) were to their limit, he can't book anything anyway. (Not saying I know they are, but I would not be surprised.)

 

[Linda7NJ]

But the specific cruise does not allow kids who aren't potty trained in ANY pool.

Ya beat me to it...I was reading & looking up the rules! Lmao!


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[Linda7NJ]

Wait, he took over the finances after Cooper's death right? I was talking about before.

I was talking about before too.
RH had taken over the family finances.


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[AuburnTxTiger]

When Leanna was filmed arriving at that house in Alabama, wasn't it said that she and her mother were staying in a room over the garage of the house that was owned by a doctor and his wife? If so, then it sounds as if Leanna's parents (or just mom, not sure that dad is in the picture) are not well off themselves.
I also thought it was reported that LH's mom lives for free above the doctor's garage.

 

[matou]

I call BS on the whole cruise thing unless it was booked.

He allegedly hounded his brother for months, didn't have dates and details or at a minimum a deposit down? Please!

IMO


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Yep and that also means everyone who works had to book off time at work to coordinate this cruise. Did Leanna book time off work? Did Ross?

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

Or fallen overboard.

In the arms of his mother.

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

Agreed MyBelle. Not seeing the discrepancy in what Stoddard described seeing in the surveillance tape and what the reporter describes seeing. You don't have to look up and watch someone pass in order to be aware of their presence in you peripheral vision. What is disputed is not the actions on the video which are basically described the same by both camps viewing. What is disputed is the motive behind the actions.

ETA only RH can say what his motivations would be in those moments and I can't exactly take his word because well, he is a liar liar pants on fire IMO

Great. Now we'll be hearing that he has no peripheral vision either.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

If you get insurance and can put down 10% you can qualify in some places. I just bought a vacation cabin and did this. I totally agree about NOT running up credit cards. I also know that you generally need to put up an "earnest money deposit" when you submit a contract, which in the case of my recent purchase of a $70K home was a minimum of $1,000. The cruise, credit card, and deposit would have tapped them out with no money left for a home inspector, downpayment, escrow, and other settlement costs.

Personally, it seems to me that they barely had the necessary money to get a new RENTAL contract. You know, first and last month security plus this months rent, and start-up costs for utilities. And that is to try and rent a new place.

Where the H's lived, they would be close to the $300,000 range for a home purchase. They would need much more that a few thousand saved in order to get a mortgage. Let's see the "pre-qual" letter from a bank, Mr. Realtor - Friend guy.

I don't think there is one. Moo.

RH was all smoke and mirrors. Double life & burning the candles at all ends. Eventually it all goes up in flames.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Great. Now we'll be hearing that he has no peripheral vision either.

Bahhhh haaaaaa haaaaaa!!!!

Thud!

Good one!!!!


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[Evie Ivy Over]

Hiya, eileenhawkeye! While I am not affiliated with LEOs nor their protocols, surely there was little doubt in the minds of those trained LEOs present who witnessed that this devious man had:

1) his 22mo child strapped into an infant seat that he was too small to legally ride in safely. Shows child abuse and neglect.

***SNIPPED

Those are the facts as we know them to be. When the AR is released, I expect to fall to my knees because of the forensic evidence that will be found there including but not limited to marks across Cooper's shoulders and upper legs where the straps were too tightly buckled on him. This evil father committed the greatest sin against his precious baby boy by wielding his power to create and to destroy.

"3 out of 4 Car Seats are Not Used Correctly"

http://blog.usa.gov/post/91059214885/three-out-of-four-car-seats-are-not-used-correctly

While I don't agree with parents who are not fastidious in the use of car seats for their children, I don't know if we're prepared to slap child abuse and neglect charges on all of these people....

I don't consider the car seat as a tool in a murder plot in this case.

 

[Linda7NJ]

http://blog.usa.gov/post/91059214885/three-out-of-four-car-seats-are-not-used-correctly

While I don't agree with parents who are not fastidious in the use of car seats for their children, I don't know if we're prepared to slap child abuse and neglect charges on all of these people....

I don't consider the car seat as a tool in a murder plot in this case.

Pity, because IMO it certainly was an instrument


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[ATasteOfHoney]

"3 out of 4 Car Seats are Not Used Correctly"

http://blog.usa.gov/post/91059214885/three-out-of-four-car-seats-are-not-used-correctly

While I don't agree with parents who are not fastidious in the use of car seats for their children, I don't know if we're prepared to slap child abuse and neglect charges on all of these people....

I don't consider the car seat as a tool in a murder plot in this case.

RE: BBM----Really? I'm thinking that since CH was a toddler (22 mos old), he certainly could've climbed/crawled/walked over to the car's window and cried to get attention while in the hot, rolled-up car if he wasn't bound by the belted carseat. Passerbys would've been more likely to have spotted him if he had some level of mobility. If only CH had some wiggle room---but he had none. Even a Houdini couldn't have survived it.

Poor CH was literally chained and bound in the backseat by that carseat. The carseat acted as a restraint and a weapon/instrument in this child's death.

Just terrible......

 

[Evie Ivy Over]

Hiya, eileenhawkeye! While I am not affiliated with LEOs nor their protocols, surely there was little doubt in the minds of those trained LEOs present who witnessed that this devious man had:

***SNIPPED

4) disobeyed police officer's request to drop the ph call. Stoddard stated it was a 6m call. Shows disrespect. He was a victim, doncha kno?
5) cursed at at the scene. Shows contempt similar to the video freezeframe of his disdainful smirk during the PCH.

I'm not putting a lot of stock in the fact that RH cursed the cops when they told him to get off the phone. Once, my car was hit from behind, and I was in the middle of a phone conversation with my son at the time the cops arrived at the scene. They literally screamed at me to get off the phone--vein popping, spitting, screaming at me to hang up the phone. All I was doing was letting my son know I was going to be late coming home from work because of the accident. If I were in a situation where my son was dead, I would probably have screamed obscenities at them, too...I still tell the story of how disrespectfully the cops talked to me that day, and that was at least 15 years ago.

 

[matou]

@atasteofhoney: I know. If Cooper wasn't so tightly strapped into his seat, he would have been able to move an arm out and possible move his upper body forward and back enough for someone to see movement in the car. So sad. He was stuck sweating in that seat not able to move. I always passed my fingers under the front chest buckle to test for slack but always left room to move a bit. My daughter hated her baby seat so much.

 

[Evie Ivy Over]

RE: BBM----Really? I'm thinking that since CH was a toddler (22 mos old), he certainly could've climbed/crawled/walked over to the car's window and cried to get attention while in the hot, rolled-up car if he wasn't bound by the belted carseat. Passerbys would've been more likely to have spotted him if he had some level of mobility. If only CH had some wiggle room---but he had none. Even a Houdini couldn't have survived it.

Poor CH was literally chained and bound in the backseat by that carseat. The carseat acted as a restraint and a weapon/instrument in this child's death.

Just terrible......

How does anyone know whether CH was actually strapped all the way in? Has that information been reported?

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

How does anyone know whether CH was actually strapped all the way in? Has that information been reported?

All the way, mostly the way, or partially strapped in is a mute point 'cause he was found in the car seat and when taken out of the car was in full rigor mortis. He could not get out of the car seat.