Small Details that are interesting in the Cooper Harris case, #1

[tlcya]

In addition, an exclusive interview with Harris’ brother, Michael Baygents, and a review of the transcript of the three-hour hearing reveal an emerging counter-narrative to the damning story about Harris that swayed public opinion. For instance, a thorough reading of the transcript suggests that prosecutors may have created a false impression by claiming that he searched the Internet for information about children and pets dying in hot cars.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/defense-for-toddlers-dad-writes-its-own-story/ngh3p/

I question how this is being questioned. AJC may have been given access to the surveillance video from HD (although I'll be damned if I know how that came about as LE and DAs are not in teh habit of releasing such things to the press before trial IME) I refuse to believe that AJC or RH's brother have been given access to the computers or the exact searches that were done. So the BBM is hard for me to figure. You have LE - who has the evidence say one thing and this article suggesting that that is not what they have. Based on what? A thorough reading of the transcript?? I've read it fifty times if I have read it once. I also watched the hearing live. Nothing i that transcript suggests the veracity or lack thereof of Stoddard's testimony about the searches. The brother's say so ostensibly based on RH telling him that is NOT what I searched?

Yeah, think I will take everything in this article with a grain of salt.

 

[newone]

LOTS of stuff in this article peeps. Talking about the videos and what happens at HD.

More about his plans:

Harris suggested the two families vacation together, Baygents said. “He hounded and hounded me about it. I finally gave him a green light about a month and a half ago.”
Harris started communicating with a travel agent about the cruise weeks before Cooper died, Baygents said. They settled on Carnival Cruise Lines after going online and finding a Carnival ship that had water slides for children.
“This wasn’t a husband-and-wife thing,” Baygents said. “It was family – kids and all.”
Harris wanted Baygents’ wife’s sister to come too, because Cooper had enjoyed playing with her son during a beach vacation over Memorial Day weekend.



http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/defense-for-toddlers-dad-writes-its-own-story/ngh3p/

:beersign:

i'd need a couple of 2-4's to believe his brother the cop

what whacked out delusional would want to take a 2 yr old on a cruise??

 

[matou]

Baygents also said the Harrises were saving up for a four-bedroom house because they wanted to have a second child before Cooper turned 3. And they were targeting their search to areas with good schools, he said.
“What parent does that unless they are planning for their kids?” Baygents asked.
Weeks earlier, in an interview with the AJC, Harris’ landlord said the couple was preparing to go house-hunting in East Cobb in search of good schools and a big back yard for Cooper to run around in.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/defense-for-toddlers-dad-writes-its-own-story/ngh3p/

I thought Leanna stated to a friend that it wasn't time for a second child?

 

[Lovejac]

LOTS of stuff in this article peeps. Talking about the videos and what happens at HD.

More about his plans:

Harris suggested the two families vacation together, Baygents said. “He hounded and hounded me about it. I finally gave him a green light about a month and a half ago.”
Harris started communicating with a travel agent about the cruise weeks before Cooper died, Baygents said. They settled on Carnival Cruise Lines after going online and finding a Carnival ship that had water slides for children.
“This wasn’t a husband-and-wife thing,” Baygents said. “It was family – kids and all.”
Harris wanted Baygents’ wife’s sister to come too, because Cooper had enjoyed playing with her son during a beach vacation over Memorial Day weekend.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/defense-for-toddlers-dad-writes-its-own-story/ngh3p/

Very detailed article, matou! Thanks for posting.

I feel very sorry for Baygents. If RH were my sibling I would not want to believe that he was capable of something so heinous either.

I'm fairly certain that if Baygent were asked (long before that fateful day Cooper died) if he thought RH could
1) send pictures of his penis to many women, including a teenage girl
2) receive pictures of naked breasts from many women, including a teenage girl
3) meet a strange woman at a park for a sexual encounter

He would have expressed the EXACT same disbelief.

You know that saying, "When people show you who they are, believe them" RH has shown me who he is, in spite of the church going, family man persona that he was able to maintain for a while.

 

[tlcya]

“That probable cause hearing was nothing but a character assassination,” Baygents said. “It was slinging mud at Ross. It was to vilify him in the media and the public and turn the tide of public opinion away from him. The stuff that’s been insinuated just isn’t true. The facts are the facts. Let them stand for what they are.”

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/defense-for-toddlers-dad-writes-its-own-story/ngh3p/

fact: RH told LE he searched about hot car deaths and temps that happens
fact: LH told LE she also searched.
fact: both parents told LE they feared such a thing.
fact: RH spend his day while his child roasted starting in the morning and continuing off and on all day til 3 pm sexting

insinuation: RH is a

What is taken from those facts is not pretty, but they are indeed facts, not insinuations. The insinuation is that RH is a . The facts are what the facts are.

MO very strongly held Opinion.

I feel badly for RH loved ones but I will not be looking to them for the facts of this case. I will continue to look right where I am looking. The facts. The evidence.

 

[newone]

Baygents also said the Harrises were saving up for a four-bedroom house because they wanted to have a second child before Cooper turned 3. And they were targeting their search to areas with good schools, he said.
“What parent does that unless they are planning for their kids?” Baygents asked.
Weeks earlier, in an interview with the AJC, Harris’ landlord said the couple was preparing to go house-hunting in East Cobb in search of good schools and a big back yard for Cooper to run around in.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/defense-for-toddlers-dad-writes-its-own-story/ngh3p/

I thought Leanna stated to a friend that it wasn't time for a second child?

yes....she said that I believe in May or so IIRC

seems to me that JRH was orbiting his ''own planet'' clearly not earth.......who takes a 2 yr old on a cruise???

 

[matou]

yes....she said that I believe in May or so IIRC

seems to me that JRH was orbiting his ''own planet'' clearly not earth.......who takes a 2 yr old on a cruise???

Because it has water slides? LOL

 

[matou]

If anything, we know that it's the brother Ross contacted r.e. his insurance and finances.

 

[matou]

I'm not sure how this publication got hold of the videos, if they did. Are they available to all media?

 

[tlcya]

Baygents also addressed Stoddard’s testimony about what happened when Leanna and Ross were put together in the same room after his arrest. Police, listening in on the conversation, heard Leanna ask her husband, “Did you say too much?”
But this was not a marital conspiracy, Baygents said. “It was more along the line of, ‘What’s going on here? Are we in trouble or something?’ They were in a total state of shock. Their child was dead.”

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/defense-for-toddlers-dad-writes-its-own-story/ngh3p/

MOO this guy is a police officer and he knows exactly how damning that comment is. Even he is not able to really take the sting out of that with his weak possible explanation.

 

[newone]

More:

The video does show Harris pass a man walking toward the car. In fact, the man walks through the open space next to Harris’ parked SUV, passing within three or four feet of the vehicle and walking the full length of it. If he had turned his head and glanced inside, he almost certainly would have seen Cooper.
The video shows that Harris does stop briefly, but his eyes are on his cell phone, which he pokes at with his free hand. He never looks back at the man who walks past his car.
Harris also walks past another man who is headed in the direction of the car. Once again, Harris does not look back at this man. In both instances, he appears oblivious to the passersby.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/defense-for-toddlers-dad-writes-its-own-story/ngh3p/

how would this person get access to evidence???

 

[newone]

I'm not sure how this publication got hold of the videos, if they did. Are they available to all media?

yes............very strange

 

[newone]

Because it has water slides? LOL

my 2 yr olds didn't do water slides and I wouldn't have wasted my $$ on a cruise when kids were 2 yrs old

 

[Inthedetails]

When did RH learn that he didn't get the promotion? It's easy to plan a cruise or house hunt if you think your income will cover it. I think LH mentioned this wasn't a good time for a second child in May because the promotion fell through and/or she learning about the sextcapades of RH. I wonder if the cruise planning stalled in the days leading up to Cooper's death.

The conflicting analysis of the HD videos is confusing, but not surprising. We can't really assess until we can see them.

JMO.

 

[newone]

I think taking his brother's 4 kids on a cruise was an excuse for JRH to hang out with underage people KWIM

wonder what the age and sexes are of his half brothers kids would be (brother is older) MOO -- kids would be good excuse to hang out by the pool and ''ogle''

 

[matou]

my 2 yr olds didn't do water slides and I wouldn't have wasted my $$ on a cruise when kids were 2 yrs old

I know. I was kidding! The water slide detail was in the article. No 2 year old should be going on a water slide IMO. Also, cruises are expensive. If any money was deposited on this trip, I want to see evidence or else I call BS on this whole cruise thing. JMO

 

[newone]

When did RH learn that he didn't get the promotion? It's easy to plan a cruise or house hunt if you think your income will cover it. I think LH mentioned this wasn't a good time for a second child in May because the promotion fell through and/or she learning about the sextcapades of RH. I wonder if the cruise planning stalled in the days leading up to Cooper's death.

The conflicting analysis of the HD videos is confusing, but not surprising. We can't really assess until we can see them.

JMO.

April -- when he was overlooked for promotion and after that he was applying to ChikFilA and he didn't get that job either

 

[matou]

I think taking his brother's 4 kids on a cruise was an excuse for JRH to hang out with underage people KWIM

wonder what the age and sexes are of his half brothers kids would be (brother is older) MOO -- kids would be good excuse to hang out by the pool and ''ogle''

I saw one of his nephews on his twitter and wondered at first who it was. That's how I found Ross Harris' vine account. I understand your concern all too much. JMO

 

[newone]

sad part of this whole scenario is that it is clear that JRH fooled a lot of people

 

[matou]

I wonder if he called his brother right before he was arrested? At the police station, if the story is true, he was welcoming inmates in and asking them what they were in for, chatting, etc. This is right after the "but there was no malicious intent." I wonder if his brother told him that?