Small Details that are interesting in the Cooper Harris case, #1

[blue22]

Wouldn't they need a warrant before they could start going through his cell phone?

Yes, of course. (Unless he offered it, but I doubt he did.) They got warrants for his office that night, I wouldn't assume they couldn't also get the warrant for his phone.

 

[blue22]

It makes perfect sense to me that RH was taken into custody at the scene. Look at the situation dispassionately for a moment.

There is a small child victim in full rigor mortis, with obvious skin discoloration, open eyes with protruding tongue, visible injuries to the child's face, and a strong scent of decomposition, and the fact that RH had been DRIVING the car moments before with such a gruesome victim situation inside. To any LEO, they would immediately know that the time of death was anywhere from a few hours ago, up to 24 hours-- definitely not immediately recent (as in the last few minutes or hours).

Even before they knew about RH's "double life", bystanders and LEOs report how very strange RH's behavior was at the scene. The officers definitely could have been thinking that the child was dead from abuse or foul play, or even staged post mortem into the too-small carseat to make it look like a heat death. (And yes, I think the LEOs at the scene probably immediately recognized that the bucket style carseat was for an infant, and the victim was clearly a toddler.) RH being on his phone while others tended to his child, as well as him cursing at the LEO when she asked him to get off the phone only adds to the big picture. I can definitely see why they took him into custody at the scene. Just nothing about that scenario looks like an accident, IMO. I'm actually surprised it took LE until 10 pm or so to officially arrest RH and read him his rights.

I mean, really. A kid dies, a parent is questioned. Every time. Accident or not. EVERY time.

 

[PaperDoll]

There is a small part of me that wonders whether LE arrested him b/c of what he said to the officer, and is now trying to get all the evidence to fit. It just seems odd that they arrested him before any evidence was in. Maybe they had a hunch, and it turned out to be right. Were they prepared to lessen the charges or drop them if it turned out it was an accident?

IMO, and I could be wrong, but a child died while in the custody of his father and the father (JRH) was acting suspicious and not cooperating with LE so I guess LE has a obligation or right to arrest JRH until further notice.

 

[Lovejac]

It makes perfect sense to me that RH was taken into custody at the scene. Look at the situation dispassionately for a moment.

There is a small child victim in full rigor mortis, with obvious skin discoloration, open eyes with protruding tongue, visible injuries to the child's face, and a strong scent of decomposition, and the fact that RH had been DRIVING the car moments before with such a gruesome victim situation inside. To any LEO, they would immediately know that the time of death was anywhere from a few hours ago, up to 24 hours-- definitely not immediately recent (as in the last few minutes or hours).

Even before they knew about RH's "double life", bystanders and LEOs report how very strange RH's behavior was at the scene. The officers definitely could have been thinking that the child was dead from abuse or foul play, or even staged post mortem into the too-small carseat to make it look like a heat death. (And yes, I think the LEOs at the scene probably immediately recognized that the bucket style carseat was for an infant, and the victim was clearly a toddler.) RH being on his phone while others tended to his child, as well as him cursing at the LEO when she asked him to get off the phone only adds to the big picture. I can definitely see why they took him into custody at the scene. Just nothing about that scenario looks like an accident, IMO. I'm actually surprised it took LE until 10 pm or so to officially arrest RH and read him his rights.

:tyou: This ^ ^ ^ ^ It really is just that simple

 

[blue22]

The warrants for the phone were taken the day of Cooper's death.

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news/documents/2014/06/28/merged_document.pdf

 

[atthelake]

He was not arrested at the scene.

IMO he was cuffed and removed from the scene because he was belligerent and non compliant.



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I hope we don't have to listen through another trial about the cuff and then and uncuffed implications is as we heard in the casey anthony trial

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[Baznme]

So much for that child advocacy safety course he took. To always turn around. He overdid his coverup. It's just too much to all be coincidence.

 

[matou]

o/t Did anyone ever see Ross' facebook before it went down?

 

[blue22]

So much for that child advocacy safety course he took. To always turn around. He overdid his coverup. It's just too much to all be coincidence.

Exactly. This is your biggest fear and instead of putting something in the backseat and always looking for your child, you forget them in 40 seconds. After breakfast. During the routine of something you do all the time.

Nope.

 

[CCmakes3]

What's going to be next? The car seat was 7 inches away from Ross' head instead of around 6 inches? Ridiculous.

Probably, but I think the one-inch discrepancy could be explained by the thickness of Ross's hair, particularly if he used a round brush and blow dryer on it that day.

 

[blue22]

Or the size of his overinflated ego.

 

[human]

But they said they noticed the smell immediately, and that was their first clue. That happened before he did that.

Here is the reason I don't believe that. They aren't forcing the evidence to fit, it DOES fit. The child was in the wrong seat, he forgot him in seconds, there was a smell, he was living a double life. This stuff is not made up. HE did all of this.

They did not arrest him on the spot. He was arrested several hours later, right?

 

[Lovejac]

They did not arrest him on the spot. He was arrested several hours later, right?

Yes, you are right. Around 10 pm

 

[osu]

Looks like some WS posts are shown in this FOX5 news video at approx 1:03. JMO


FOX5 Cooper Harris Case: Psychology of Public Outrage

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KywSEEH3V1k

 

[Lovejac]

Looks like some WS posts are shown in this FOX 5 news video at approx 1:05. JMO


FOX5 Cooper Harris Case: Psychology of Public Outrage

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KywSEEH3V1k

RainCheck and DeDee are famous! LOL!

ETA: and human, too

 

[matou]

Looks like some WS posts are shown in this FOX5 news video at approx 1:03. JMO


FOX5 Cooper Harris Case: Psychology of Public Outrage

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KywSEEH3V1k

Haha! I see human's and Dedee's posts on there. Also Raincheck who posted about Ross' ebay account.

 

[matou]

Now if the news only credited WS posters for the information they post about on the news and then claim they found it i.e. Ross' Kik account information found by Babylisaupdates.

 

[blue22]

Haha! I see human's and Dedee's posts on there. Also Raincheck who posted about Ross' ebay account.

We're obsessed ya'll!

:laughing:

 

[blue22]

They did not arrest him on the spot. He was arrested several hours later, right?

Yes. They took him in for questioning and he was arrested later.

 

[Lovejac]

Now if the news only credited WS posters for the information they post about on the news and then claim they found it i.e. Ross' Kik account information found by Babylisaupdates.

No doubt!