Small Details that are interesting in the Cooper Harris case, #1

[gngr~snap]

could not readily locate a link to info from stoddard at PCH about cup so I deleted mine of earlier re that issue.

But like the carseat straps on straps off thing, I don't know why RH grabbing his computer bag from passenger seat and additionally grabbing a cup from his console before exiting the vehicle is a big deal.

If it was a jumbo Chick Fil a cup from breakfast and he kept it around it should have rung a bell.
Is what I was thinking.

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[tatertot]

Re: Whether CH was completely unbuckled.

Search YouTube for "baby escaping car seat" and you'll see babies as young as three months arching, then sliding out of their cradle seats. (This is also why parents are warned never to set a infant carrier with even a newborn on a soft surface like a bed, lest the child rock the seat enough to tip it over and suffocate.)

As an experiment, I put my 8mo in his cradle seat in the van today, unbuckled, and by the time I walked around to the driver's seat he was already sitting straight up and turning to see where I was.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I don't believe there was a cup...(irrelevant I agree)

Otherwise, I'm not sure hold he could hold the phone and stab at his phone with a cup in one hand...



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[tlcya]

If it was a jumbo Chick Fil a cup from breakfast and he kept it around it should have rung a bell.
Is what I was thinking.

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excellent point, yet ANOTHER opportunity before exiting the vehicle to remember his son inches from him

 

[tlcya]

I don't believe there was a cup...(irrelevant I agree)

Otherwise, I'm not sure hold he could hold the phone and stab at his phone with a cup in one hand...



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wrong time of day. the phone poking was at lunch visit to car, the one RH omitted from his narrative when being questioned. The drink/cup was on leaving the car after arriving at work that morning.

 

[Linda7NJ]

wrong time of day. the phone poking was at lunch visit to car, the one RH omitted form his narrative when being questioned. The drink/cup was on leaving the car after arriving at work that morning.

Ooooh... Nevermind... Blushing


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[gngr~snap]

I don't believe there was a cup...(irrelevant I agree)

Otherwise, I'm not sure hold he could hold the phone and stab at his phone with a cup in one hand...



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The cup was from breakfast. Stabbing at the phone was light bulb lunch.
I agree. It really doesn't matter, he could have trashed it upon walking into work.

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[tlcya]

@LindaNJ

in my best Flo voice "happens to me all the time"

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Hey Scarlet :seeya: Glad to see you back. I missed your posts.

May I ask why you put more weight in Baygent and AJC than Det Stoddard?

Because if there is tape that backs up that he did not tell the whole truth??? Than I go with the tape. I really have an issue with cops over stepping or embellishing. Bothers me a heck of a lot more than citizens lying to protect someone.
But if the tape says he did not tell the whole truth.. That bugs me a lot. I respect cops But I really dislike cops that expand and don't stick to the facts. I like good guys to be good guys.. Not have shades of gray.

 

[osu]

IDK, it sounded more like he is broken hearted by this all and wishes there was a reasonable explanation. It didn't sound like backpedaling to me, so much.

Although, RH's mom seems mean as a snake so maybe she got to poor BMc. I hope not.

BM had been posting last week on one of the Cooper Harris community Facebook pages. In one of his comments, he said that RH's mother had sent him angry PM's saying he was a "disloyal friend to Ross" by giving the media interviews. She said that he should have just told the reporters, "No Comment".
BM responded back to her saying he spoke out because he was "standing up for Cooper."

 

[gngr~snap]

Because if there is tape that backs up that he did not tell the whole truth??? Than I go with the tape. I really have an issue with cops over stepping or embellishing. Bothers me a heck of a lot more than citizens lying to protect someone.
But if the tape says he did not tell the whole truth.. That bugs me a lot. I respect cops But I really dislike cops that expand and don't stick to the facts. I like good guys to be good guys.. Not have shades of gray.

bbm

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It is or it isn't...
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[AuburnTxTiger]

LOL The cup is no big deal, I agree but hey we have slim pickins' here for a while! I think the cup was only mentioned because the AJC mentioned it and we don't recall Stoddard mentioning it. Maybe he did. Not about what was in it, but why would AJC bother to mention it? Oh, maybe it took RH many seconds to pick it up, LOL JMO

I would like to know if RH took a Chick Fil A cup into his office. If he did, I would have to wonder if looking at that Chick Fil A cup sitting on his desk or picking up the cup to drink and seeing the word "Chick Fil A" might have reminded RH about his special daddy breakfast with CH that morning.

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

I don't believe there was a cup...(irrelevant I agree)

Otherwise, I'm not sure hold he could hold the phone and stab at his phone with a cup in one hand...



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Was the cup in RH's hand when he arrived at work that morning? Did he use the phone walking into work that morning? I really would like to know more about the cup especially if it was a Chick Fil A cup which should have reminded RH about the daddy breakfast that morning with CH.

 

[MsMarple]

MOO this is all smoke and mirrors to deflect from the really damning stuff.

the 30 seconds or 15 seconds in car after arriving at Treehouse means very little to me. People gather up things get organized before leaving the car. I place my keys in my purse, I grab my cup I roll up my window if needed and grab my purse. 10 seconds tops. Maybe sometimes, if I have more to organize, I take longer. That 30 seconds or 15 seconds was never a big smoking gun for me.

But now it apparently implies that RH is being railroaded in the court of public opinion and police are actively participating in lying under oath to accomplish it? GMAB!

Lets talk about the 30 seconds to 1.5 minutes it took Mr. Harris to allegedly forget the child he had just fed, strapped in and kissed lovingly and not make the turn to daycare -

oh yeah, that's right, defense did address that - Come'on folks you know you have all forgotten your doggy bag just seconds after it being handed to you at the restaurant. BARF bag please? Anyone?

Everything that can be subjectively viewed is now a "discrepancy" - uh no, its called subjective for a reason. It means evidence open to interpretation.

Stoddard interpreting RH actions on video is not lying, it is not embellishing, it is not railroading. It is called analyzing and opining. And now we have AJC's analysis which differs.

DUH because its all subjective and in the eye of the beholder.

I want to hear defense address the objective evidence.

crickets

Just saying.

It's been three days since the AJC article came out. Why hasn't RH's attorney filed any motions to reverse the judge's decision to deny bond? Or perjury charges against Det. Stoddard? Or a mistrial of the PCH?

Why is Kilgore sitting on his hands while his client languishes in jail because of all the terrible lies? Certainly this qualifies for an emegency hearing to set the record straight. Is he not doing his job properly?

And we still haven't heard whether LH actually had that meeting with Wood. Five days and waiting.

Smoke. Mirrors. Now you see it - now you don't....

 

[MissJ]

It's been three days since the AJC article came out. Why hasn't RH's attorney filed any motions to reverse the judge's decision to deny bond? Or perjury charges against Det. Stoddard? Or a mistrial of the PCH?

Why is Kilgore sitting on his hands while his client languishes in jail because of all the terrible lies? Certainly this qualifies for an emegency hearing to set the record straight. Is he not doing his job properly?

And we still haven't heard whether LH actually had that meeting with Wood. Five days and waiting.

Smoke. Mirrors. Now you see it - now you don't....

Precisely, why indeed. If it is lies prove it. I don't see Stoddard placing his future on the line. RH's brother....yes.

 

[popsicle]

One thing.. Stoddard never said RH put his head in the car when he tossed the light bulbs in. He never said at what level RH's eye's were that I recall. jmo

 

[RainCheck]

It's been three days since the AJC article came out. Why hasn't RH's attorney filed any motions to reverse the judge's decision to deny bond? Or perjury charges against Det. Stoddard? Or a mistrial of the PCH?

Why is Kilgore sitting on his hands while his client languishes in jail because of all the terrible lies? Certainly this qualifies for an emegency hearing to set the record straight. Is he not doing his job properly?

And we still haven't heard whether LH actually had that meeting with Wood. Five days and waiting.

Smoke. Mirrors. Now you see it - now you don't....

Yep, if there were huge, earth shattering discrepancies between what was used against JRH at the hearing and what the defense has seen now, they'd already have called for an emergency hearing to reconsider bail and possible dismiss the case. This is an attempt to turn public favor, but it's not based on any evidence that could mean the difference between innocent or guilty. It's nothing!

 

[LisaB]

I'm confused. Who are you talking about?

ETA: are you talking about Baygeant, RH's half brother?

Baznme and others stated that they did not feel this was a TRIAL and that some of the things said may be revised prior to trial as more information is presented. Stoddard said "up to 6" women and "30 seconds". I believe SStarr may believe the "up to 6" was an exaggeration (could mean 1 or 2) and that "30 seconds" has been disproved by the AJC article. I am not certain, but thing the inference is that we (or some of us) support Stoddard misleading the court by overstating the numbers to keep [modsnip] in jail.

If Stoddard mis-spoke, I do not think it was intentional, and whether or not it was, I do not think ANYONE here would condone him LYING.

 

[matou]

Thank goodness he didn't mention anything about a cup because we'd be sitting here defending the fact that he said RH had a "Coke," when "in fact" he had a "Diet Coke." (Insert eye-rolling, head-shaking emoticon here).

Soda at 9:15 am? :shakingmyhead: lol

 

[LisaB]

There was zero cost to adjust the straps of the car seat so it fit correctly and comfortably. Neither parent did it and that is on both of them. Of all the pieces in the mountain of evidence that it was premeditated murder is the fact that those straps were not adjusted nor was the seat turned to forward facing position.

JMO

What occurred to me is that AS HE GREW they would have been adjusting the straps (looser) to accommodate him. But when they put him in the larger seat, they adjusted the straps (of the old seat) back down to the tightest setting. That is where it was when he died.