Small Details that are interesting in the Cooper Harris case, #1

[cady]

The only reason I doubt that the big "reveal" was to be when his friends dropped him off is that he couldn't have been SURE at that time that Cooper was dead, for his great performance. If the friends had stuck around and Cooper was in the process of dying, he would have been saved by them calling 911 or possibly giving CPR. That would have thwarted Dad's plan. However it also could have looked a bit more like forgetfulness and he wouldn't be sitting in the hoosegow now. JMO JMO

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

So glad I found and joined websleuths. Now I can understand, but do not agree with, how some juries vote as they do. I watched every day of the Casey Anthony trial and was amazed that 12 people could vote not guilty.

 

[Linda7NJ]

There are witnesses who said he did attempt CPR.

Would that be the witness that organically saw him but didn't see law enforcement?


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[EvilSoup]

Do bowels release upon death 100% of the time?

IDK. Some of the posts made by posters who know about medical stuff, which I do not, have said the muscles of the body, bladder and sphincter included, relax.

But yeah, never having experienced the moment of someone's death, I really am just assuming.

However very few things are 100%.

 

[cluciano63]

IMO he knew when he opened the door to toss the bulbs that Cooper was no longer making a sound.


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Jmo and I am well aware of being in the minority but I think it is possible this is when he realized he had forgotten to drop off Cooper. And spent the afternoon deciding how he would deal with it. Or maybe even as he approached the car after lunch, it hit him, which might be why he did not look back, if he did not. A d was so quick about it. He knew what he would see. Jmo anyway. Just not 100% on premediated.

 

[cluciano63]

IDK. Some of the posts made by posters who know about medical stuff, which I do not, have said the muscles of the body, bladder and sphincter included, relax.

But yeah, never having experienced the moment of someone's death, I really am just assuming.

However very few things are 100%.

I was with my mom when she died and this did not happen, and my brother and I were in the room with her for an hour or so afterward.

 

[Linda7NJ]

So glad I found and joined websleuths. Now I can understand, but do not agree with, how some juries vote as they do. I watched every day of the Casey Anthony trial and was amazed that 12 people could vote not guilty.

Some people like to examine each piece of evidence in a vacuum, incapable or unwilling of looking at the whole picture.
The defense only needs one of those on a jury.
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[EvilSoup]

Newer cars are more airtight than the clunkers some of us rode around in, lol, and therefore when RH opened the SUV door both at noon and after work he would have been hit with a rush of hot air right up his nostrils. Similar to opening a vacuum-packed can. The odor wafts out.

As a father of a 22 month old he'd know the smell of a dirty diaper. That alone would have triggered a memory of Cooper. There may have also been vomit and the smell of early decomposition, especially after work. Smells that weren't present in the morning.

Unless and until I see a report that RH lacked all sense of smell I find it impossible to believe he could have missed such an olfactory clue.

I guess for me, the smell issue is kind of a non-issue.

I believe Ross left Cooper in that car to die, so if there was an odor, it wouldn't have alerted Ross to anything, because he KNEW the baby was in there.

If there was an odor emanating from that car at the light bulb drop, that makes Ross even more suspect, IMO.

And I actually still think Cooper wasn't quite dead yet at that point.

 

[cady]

OK. Cluciano, but we know what he spent the afternoon doing. Also, the State does not need to prove premeditation. MOO

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

Jmo and I am well aware of being in the minority but I think it is possible this is when he realized he had forgotten to drop off Cooper. And spent the afternoon deciding how he would deal with it. Or maybe even as he approached the car after lunch, it hit him, which might be why he did not look back, if he did not. A d was so quick about it. He knew what he would see. Jmo anyway. Just not 100% on premediated.

That was my first take on it all. And then I heard Det. Stoddard on the stand, and I knew it was premediated.

 

[EvilSoup]

Jmo and I am well aware of being in the minority but I think it is possible this is when he realized he had forgotten to drop off Cooper. And spent the afternoon deciding how he would deal with it. Or maybe even as he approached the car after lunch, it hit him, which might be why he did not look back, if he did not. A d was so quick about it. He knew what he would see. Jmo anyway. Just not 100% on premediated.

That is a very interesting theory. I wonder if anyone at HD noted that he seemed shaken or distracted after returning from lunch.

 

[EvilSoup]

OK. Cluciano, but we know what he spent the afternoon doing. Also, the State does not need to prove premeditation. MOO

Yes. I see your point also.

How could he send weenie pics and make movie plans after discovering he had made a horrible mistake?

SMH

 

[Sonya610]

I believe SStarr may believe the "up to 6" was an exaggeration (could mean 1 or 2) and that "30 seconds" has been disproved by the AJC article. I am not certain, but thing the inference is that we (or some of us) support Stoddard misleading the court by overstating the numbers to keep [modsnip] in jail.

I thought the vagueness regarding "up to six" likely had to do with the fact there were probably 6 internet aliases but they had not ALL been confirmed as being individual real women (because that would require tracking them down in real life).

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

Do bowels release upon death 100% of the time?

Isn't the law that it should be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt". To me this does not mean 100% absolute. Not many things in life are 100% absolute. I also look at the totality of the events and all of RH's actions and statements. Just one strange/unusual action or statement would not seem significant to me, but in this case almost if not all of RH's actions/statements are unusual and not normal to me. I try to keep an open mind and look at the facts and all the facts, not just one isolated point. When CH's death was first announced in the news, I thought the LE were too aggressive in charging RH. The PCH changed by mind. I posted earlier the link to the Good Morning America Show ABC legal analyst who said the info in Sunday's AJC article would not have changed the judge's decision at the PCH. If this case goes to trial, we will all be able to view the parking lot video tape(s).
When my adult daughter was 3 years old, our car pool with another child changed for the day and I was taking the girls to preschool instead of the usual picking up after school. I forgot they were in the car and headed out for work. BUT I did notice after about 10 minutes, and a few missed turns, that the girls were sitting quietly in the back seat. I noticed the girls in the back seat when I changed lanes on the interstate. I did not forget for 7 hours! Now I sometimes have my 2 preschool grandkids with me in my SUV. I always look in the back seat when getting out of the car. The near miss scared me to death.

 

[PaperDoll]

That is a very interesting theory. I wonder if anyone at HD noted that he seemed shaken or distracted after returning from lunch.

From my understanding, it was reported that RH didn't act out of the ordinary at work.. However, IMO, I'm sure Cooper was on his mind the whole time..

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

I was with my mom when she died and this did not happen, and my brother and I were in the room with her for an hour or so afterward.

Had she had a meal, solid food, 3 hours before she passed away? Sometimes terminally ill patients haven't eaten for days. Sometimes these patients are on liquid tube feedings. Sorry for your loss.

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

Some people like to examine each piece of evidence in a vacuum, incapable or unwilling of looking at the whole picture.
The defense only needs one of those on a jury.
Imo





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Sad but true. I am just now realizing this. It amazes me.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Isn't the law that it should be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt". To me this does not mean 100% absolute. Not many things in life are 100% absolute. I also look at the totality of the events and all of RH's actions and statements. Just one strange/unusual action or statement would not seem significant to me, but in this case almost if not all of RH's actions/statements are unusual and not normal to me. I try to keep an open mind and look at the facts and all the facts, not just one isolated point. When CH's death was first announced in the news, I thought the LE were too aggressive in charging RH. The PCH changed by mind. I posted earlier the link to the Good Morning America Show ABC legal analyst who said the info in Sunday's AJC article would not have changed the judge's decision at the PCH. If this case goes to trial, we will all be able to view the parking lot video tape(s).
When my adult daughter was 3 years old, our car pool with another child changed for the day and I was taking the girls to preschool instead of the usual picking up after school. I forgot they were in the car and headed out for work. BUT I did notice after about 10 minutes, and a few missed turns, that the girls were sitting quietly in the back seat. I noticed the girls in the back seat when I changed lanes on the interstate. I did not forget for 7 hours! Now I sometimes have my 2 preschool grandkids with me in my SUV. I always look in the back seat when getting out of the car. The near miss scared me to death.

They are both IMO walking contradictions.

Both claimed it was a huge fear, both went so far as to claim they even looked up.

Neither took even the most simplistic preventive measures to ensure it didn't happen.

Ironically, that's how their child dies.

Everything Ross Harris held himself out to be was a lie. His entire persona was a facade.

Both exhibited a level of detachment from their own child that I have NEVER seen before.

IMO




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[Linda7NJ]

From my understanding, it was reported that RH didn't act out of the ordinary at work.. However, IMO, I'm sure Cooper was on his mind the whole time..

Thinking about his son would be a "mood killer" ...he needed distractions that involved his penis.




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[cady]

I said this before, somewhere. I think they loved the IDEA of Cooper as many different ideas, but he was disposable, like other good idea "things". JMO