Sociopathic Personalilty

[LoriKeet]

My fondest wishes to those of you dealing, or having dealt with, loved ones with Mental Health (MH) issues - Keep strong!

why did Casey take Caylee away from her grandparents (where she was at least safe for the first three years of her life) - what reasons have Casey and Cindy given, that seem plausible...?

From personal experience (my mother)...sociopaths ONLY want something when they can't have it. Casey was fine with her parents taking care of Caylee, because it was on HER terms, to convenience HER, but if the parents suggested they wanted to legally become Caylee's guardian, THAT'S when Casey took what "was hers" and bolted. No different than a child preventing a peer/sibling from having their toy.

Caylee was nothing but a pawn/accessory to Casey. Once the novelty wore off, she became a hindrance to Casey's social life, yet there was no way Casey would admit to her parents that they were right. There was no way Casey was going to let her parents "win."

Just like Susan Smith. Even though Susan had her ex-husband and two sets of grandparents who would've happily raised those boys, she couldn't let them "win."

Casey really showed her parents who was boss, didn't she?! It's such a sick and twisted mentality.

 

[KR2tonenow]

I have posted that my brilliant, wonderful sister has developed this personality....
It's very sad. She believes her lies. No responsibility comes towards her.

So...I "get" the lies, the manipulation. Casey will never tell the truth.

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Wow, great read!

 

[KR2tonenow]

I remember Cindy saying that Casey left for a vacation/break to bond with Caylee. One interesting thing to note (explains some of the dynamics in their mother/daughter relationship, perhaps?) is that when Caylee was born the doctors handed the baby to Cindy not Casey and supposedly Casey resented this. Cindy is an RN and may know the doctors? I'm not sure.

I've lived with a master manipulator for 22 years and he reminds me of a much older Casey in so many ways: Attractive, intelligent, witty, cunning, the life of the party, seemingly such a good catch (remember TonE's roommate saying he told him to hurry and wife her up or whatever that phrase was), to the outside world they seem so nice and so normal until you get to know them and you strip away the facade and find they are: self-serving, low to no ambition, temper, drug/alcohol abusers, mooch off others, take no responsibilities for their actions, think everyone else is to blame, no one else has problems like theirs, refusal to help with domestic labor or paying for their own food, everyone owes them a free ride, etc., etc.

Quite right! These personality disorders blind them from feeling remorse of any kind, self serving and nacisstic. If this kind of individual isn't treated by a professional, they are out in society seemingly distroying other's innocent lives.

 

[OneLostGrl]

My heart goes out to ya'll for what you have had to go through with loved ones and mental illness issues.

Maybe a mod could merge this with the "borderline personality" and "possible diagnoses" threads we already have going so all the mental health stuff can be in one spot, what do ya'll think?

 

[Kat1124]

Quite right! These personality disorders blind them from feeling remorse of any kind, self serving and nacisstic. If this kind of individual isn't treated by a professional, they are out in society seemingly distroying other's innocent lives.

Wow. I hadn't read the article posted by Amberjack before posting my earlier reply. What an interesting article, but scary.

 

[Amberjack]

why did Casey take Caylee away from her grandparents (where she was at least safe for the first three years of her life) - what reasons have Casey and Cindy given, that seem plausible...?

I'm not sure about the source, but I thought Cindy wanted custody of Caylee. If Casey wanted to party and be free, why not hand the baby over to Cindy?

IMO Because Casey could not admit to having failed with Caylee.
The ultimate revenge against her parent's decision to have Casey move out was to take away Caylee. I bet Casey has blocked out the entire "experience"

Her taped jail conversations show a total lack of concern for anyone but herself.

 

[Love_Mama]

My heart goes out to ya'll for what you have had to go through with loved ones and mental illness issues.

Maybe a mod could merge this with the "borderline personality" and "possible diagnoses" threads we already have going so all the mental health stuff can be in one spot, what do ya'll think?

OneLostGrl, great idea. Why don't you just ask one of the mods here?
We're always trying to find out this kind of information so it would be neat to have that thread a 'sticky"

:woohoo::woohoo:

Hoping all is well with you and family!

xxxxxxxxxooo
mama
:blowkiss::blowkiss:

 

[KR2tonenow]

IMO Because Casey could not admit to having failed with Caylee.
The ultimate revenge against her parent's decision to have Casey move out was to take away Caylee. I bet Casey has blocked out the entire "experience"

Her taped jail conversations show a total lack of concern for anyone but herself.

Well, it plays in well with un-diagnosed mentally ill socipath Casey, couldn't help herself, for the defense when this goes on trial. It will go to trial. Gross neglect with children is a prison sentence, either way.

Frankly I am sitting on the edge of my seat wondering when Casey will be out of jail and if Padilla, will "torture" the information out of her.

 

[Piglitsmum]

Thank you for those of you who have tried to update me as to the reasons why Casey took Caylee away - As you say, it is the thing about cutting off your nose to spite your face - that is, ensuring that she (Caylee) doesn't have anything more than you might have, and taking her away to take revenge upon her parents, then realising that you can't be responsible for this life...

Whatever anyone's opinion on the GPs, IMO there is no doubt that Casey is at least guilty of gross child neglect and obstructing the course of justice, and how she could ever be granted bail is beyond me - I need to go catch up with that thread now. Thanks again!

 

[Amberjack]

A trait of the Sociopathic Personality-STALKING

* O.J. Simpson stalked Nicole
He even peered thru her windows while she was being "romantic" with a new boyfriend

* Scott Peterson was stalking Amber Frey

* Susan Smith was most likely stalking her ex

* Even Joran van der Sloot stalked the female students

Stalking includes unannounced visits, harrassing phone calls, angry letters
All with the possibility of violence

http://www.esia.net/Common_Traits_of_Stalkers.htm

 

[Amberjack]

The Addict/Alcoholic Personality:

http://www.renascent.ca/addiction/personality.html

 

[Piglitsmum]

Sorry if this has already been posted elsewhere - Very telling, and often linked to other PDs.

Description of Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

"Behaviour or a fantasy of grandiosity, a lack of empathy and a need to be admired by others. As indicated by at least five of the following:

1. Grandiose sense of self-importance.
2. Fantasies of and preoccupied with beauty, brilliance, ideal love, power, or unlimited success.
3. A belief of being special and unique and can only be understood or a need to associate with people of high status.
4. A need for excessive admiration.
5. An unreasonable expectation of being treated with favour or excepting an automatic compliance to her / his wishes.
6. Will use others to achieve her / his goals.
7. Lacks empathy.
8. Believes others are envious of her / him or is envious of others.
9. Contemptuous or haughty attitudes / behaviours."

Often NPD doesn't stand alone. Suffers of NPD may suffer from elements of other personality disorders. This is due mainly to the fact that it is not possible to define an exact set of criteria for each personality disorder which will apply to all cases. Personality disorders are a relatively new field of research and it is likely the criteria used to define specific disorders will change over time.

Most sufferers diagnosed with NPD are men".

 

[Amberjack]

:clap: You can see these trais in Casey's "Icon" Photobucket

"I'm so pretty, I'm so great, I'm better than you....

Men: A means to an end...Doesn't mastter who he is.

Lacks EMPATHY...When Christina broke down hyterical over Caylee...
Casey laughs it off. THAT would have been the time for Casey to break down and say, "Yes, if anything happens to Caylee I too will just die..."

 

[Piglitsmum]

Bless you, amberjack - This appears to be one of those often undiagnosed disorders, and I hope Psych people are involved in interviewing Casy, so that they have some understanding of what they might be dealing with here...

It's a complex case - Do we recall the missing Shannon Matthews, the UK case, where it seemed as if they were trying to get public sympathy and donations, as happened with Madeleine McCann's case?

I wonder if we've even thought of money as the motive, and if there have been any appeals made for that so far?

 

[Amberjack]

No, I don't think the Anthony's are interested in making money off of this.

It does surprise me, that with all their family, friends, connections...
They could not come up with the 50K.....

I see Cindy being as self centered, delusional, grandiose as Casey.
I see George as a good man stuck in the middle of all this DRAAAAMMMMA.
Lee, too is enjoying the spotlight.

 

[Amberjack]

In terms of Casey: "Follow the Money" (or lack of money)

And connect the dots.............Sex, drugs and........freedom?

 

[Amberjack]

Sociopaths:

O.J. Simpson
Scott Peterson
Susan Smith
Joran van der Sloot
etc................................

IMO No one or no thing was going to get in their way of their obsession/their addictions
Even if it meant another murder

There were moments where my sister threatened my life over a six pack of beer...And, yes she was/is capable of it.

Sociopaths do not have relationships; they take HOSTAGES.