GUILTY South Africa - Jayde Panayiotou, 28, Port Elizabeth, 21 April 2015
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11:25 - And court resumes...Stander’s focus will now be on Panayiotou allegedly destroying evidence.
11:27 -
Jayde’s sister Toni remains standing as the rest sit as Panayiotou returns to court. Beeton takes on media for using flashlights in the court.
11:28 -
No one admits to using flash.
Beeton questions a few of the photographers but they all deny it. She says should any photographer be found using a flash she will have them removed from the court.
Beeton indicates that the media have a role to play and it is important that they adhere to the rules.
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 2m2 minutes ago
Stander continues now, dealing with single cell issue. Panayiotou was considered high profile by prison authorities #iol #Panayiotou
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 57s57 seconds ago
Ankle bracelet only used for sentenced offender and is a pilot project so won't apply to Panayiotou says Stander #iol #Panayiotou
Lee-Anne Butler
‏@leeannebutler
#ChristopherPanayiotou was assessed and found to be a high profile detainee. Safety, security is of utmost important @HeraldPE
11:31 - Stander: Following an inquiry he had found out that Panayiotou had been moved to a single cell as he had been categorised as a high-profile detainee awaiting trial prisoner and that, unless a court order is issued to change the circumstances, he would remain in a single cell.
11:32 -
Stander says the state cannot really respond to the bail conditions except to say that the proposal of an ankle bracelet, as submitted to the court by the defence, was impractical.
He points out that this was still a test project and was currently being trialled with prisoners who were being paroled.
11:35 - Stander: I can only address the court on bail conditions once the court has made a finding on whether they will be grant bail.
11:36 - Beeton says she wants clarity on what steps the State can take to mitigate Panayiotou as a possible flight risk.
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 6m6 minutes ago
Beaton to Stander : Are the risks you have presented real? #iol #Panayiotou
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: if court finds that #Panayiotou is not a flight risk then he must be placed under house arrest & report to police twice a day #iol
11:40 -
He says that they are able to make a strong case against Panayiotou without relying on Siyoli as a State witness.
Stander says, without going into detail, there is evidence including the GPS from a hired vehicle that collaborates the allegations of the previous failed murder attempts.
11:39 - Stander: I understand that there are concerns around accused number 1 (Siyoli) turning State witness.
11:38 - Stander also suggests that Panayiotou has made it clear that he will interfere with evidence and that he will make use of middle men to do so.
11:41 - With regards to the failed attempts, Stander continues, it is clear that the hit man [Vumazonke] had been given information relating to Jayde that could only be inferred to have come from Panayiotou.
11:42 - Stander also points out that there is cellphone evidence linking the three accused.
There is also expert testimony that will collaborate that the murder was not a robbery gone wrong, he adds.
Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: Cell phone records show contact between Panayiotou, middleman and hit man. Payment was discussed. #ChrisPanayiotou
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: Panayiotou called Siyoli to tell him that money was ready after the murder #iol #Panayiotou
11:45 - He goes further to points out that this evidence explains the various movements of the three accused.
11:45 - “Although sim cards had been swopped, and again without going into too much detail, it was possible for police to link handsets to handsets.”
11:44 - “The evidence links the vehicle of Vumazonke to the murder scene and that there is cellphone correspondence between the accused relating to the confirmation of the hit and the arrangement of payment.”
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: There is a witness that saw #Panayiotou give Siyoli money for hit #iol #Panayiotou
Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: the money that was handed over to alleged middleman, hitman is being analysed for touch DNA - to prove it came from #Panayiotou
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 3m3 minutes ago
Stander : State has more than enough evidence to show motive. Case does not rely on evidence of one witness #iol #Panayiotou
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 3m3 minutes ago
#Panayiotou Stander says state is not only relying on one witness, there are other witnesses. SS
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 3m3 minutes ago
Stander says state is confident proper channels were used to get recording between #Panayiotou and Siyoli and is not only evidence #iol
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 3m3 minutes ago
#Panayiotou Prosecution says all processes were followed during entrapment - adds although crucial, it's supporting evidence. SS
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 4m4 minutes ago
Stander : We have Siyoli's phone with all the data #iol #Panayiotou
11:49 - “Although there has been a lot made about the admissibility of the video and audio transcript from the car, the state is confident that all the necessary procedures had been followed.” It is also not the only evidence, he says.
11:47 - Stander points that the forensic investigation is also being conducted to determine touch dna on cash that had been in the possession of both Siyoli and Vumazonke. Stander says there are also numerous witnesses that can also corroborate the State’s case of Panayiotou having an affair with Coutts.
11:53 - Stander says on a technical point, it is important to note that there is more information to cellphone than just the information given by the service providers, and that while a lot of data had been wiped, there is still a lot available and the State still has the middle man's phone. Stander concludes. Beeton asks for a brief five-minute adjournment.
http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Panayiotou-bail-hearing-enters-day-4-20150527
Laurie A Claase ‏@LaurieAClaase 3m3 minutes ago
Strength of State's case: Phone & car-hire records, experts & witnesses (& the video?) will link #Panayiotou to co-accused & the hit #Jayde
11:27 -
Jayde’s sister Toni remains standing as the rest sit as Panayiotou returns to court. Beeton takes on media for using flashlights in the court.
11:28 -
No one admits to using flash.
Beeton questions a few of the photographers but they all deny it. She says should any photographer be found using a flash she will have them removed from the court.
Beeton indicates that the media have a role to play and it is important that they adhere to the rules.
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 2m2 minutes ago
Stander continues now, dealing with single cell issue. Panayiotou was considered high profile by prison authorities #iol #Panayiotou
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 57s57 seconds ago
Ankle bracelet only used for sentenced offender and is a pilot project so won't apply to Panayiotou says Stander #iol #Panayiotou
Lee-Anne Butler
‏@leeannebutler
#ChristopherPanayiotou was assessed and found to be a high profile detainee. Safety, security is of utmost important @HeraldPE
11:31 - Stander: Following an inquiry he had found out that Panayiotou had been moved to a single cell as he had been categorised as a high-profile detainee awaiting trial prisoner and that, unless a court order is issued to change the circumstances, he would remain in a single cell.
11:32 -
Stander says the state cannot really respond to the bail conditions except to say that the proposal of an ankle bracelet, as submitted to the court by the defence, was impractical.
He points out that this was still a test project and was currently being trialled with prisoners who were being paroled.
11:35 - Stander: I can only address the court on bail conditions once the court has made a finding on whether they will be grant bail.
11:36 - Beeton says she wants clarity on what steps the State can take to mitigate Panayiotou as a possible flight risk.
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 6m6 minutes ago
Beaton to Stander : Are the risks you have presented real? #iol #Panayiotou
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: if court finds that #Panayiotou is not a flight risk then he must be placed under house arrest & report to police twice a day #iol
11:40 -
He says that they are able to make a strong case against Panayiotou without relying on Siyoli as a State witness.
Stander says, without going into detail, there is evidence including the GPS from a hired vehicle that collaborates the allegations of the previous failed murder attempts.
11:39 - Stander: I understand that there are concerns around accused number 1 (Siyoli) turning State witness.
11:38 - Stander also suggests that Panayiotou has made it clear that he will interfere with evidence and that he will make use of middle men to do so.
11:41 - With regards to the failed attempts, Stander continues, it is clear that the hit man [Vumazonke] had been given information relating to Jayde that could only be inferred to have come from Panayiotou.
11:42 - Stander also points out that there is cellphone evidence linking the three accused.
There is also expert testimony that will collaborate that the murder was not a robbery gone wrong, he adds.
Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: Cell phone records show contact between Panayiotou, middleman and hit man. Payment was discussed. #ChrisPanayiotou
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: Panayiotou called Siyoli to tell him that money was ready after the murder #iol #Panayiotou
11:45 - He goes further to points out that this evidence explains the various movements of the three accused.
11:45 - “Although sim cards had been swopped, and again without going into too much detail, it was possible for police to link handsets to handsets.”
11:44 - “The evidence links the vehicle of Vumazonke to the murder scene and that there is cellphone correspondence between the accused relating to the confirmation of the hit and the arrangement of payment.”
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: There is a witness that saw #Panayiotou give Siyoli money for hit #iol #Panayiotou
Karyn Maughan ‏@karynmaughan 4m4 minutes ago
Stander: the money that was handed over to alleged middleman, hitman is being analysed for touch DNA - to prove it came from #Panayiotou
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 3m3 minutes ago
Stander : State has more than enough evidence to show motive. Case does not rely on evidence of one witness #iol #Panayiotou
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 3m3 minutes ago
#Panayiotou Stander says state is not only relying on one witness, there are other witnesses. SS
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 3m3 minutes ago
Stander says state is confident proper channels were used to get recording between #Panayiotou and Siyoli and is not only evidence #iol
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 3m3 minutes ago
#Panayiotou Prosecution says all processes were followed during entrapment - adds although crucial, it's supporting evidence. SS
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 4m4 minutes ago
Stander : We have Siyoli's phone with all the data #iol #Panayiotou
11:49 - “Although there has been a lot made about the admissibility of the video and audio transcript from the car, the state is confident that all the necessary procedures had been followed.” It is also not the only evidence, he says.
11:47 - Stander points that the forensic investigation is also being conducted to determine touch dna on cash that had been in the possession of both Siyoli and Vumazonke. Stander says there are also numerous witnesses that can also corroborate the State’s case of Panayiotou having an affair with Coutts.
11:53 - Stander says on a technical point, it is important to note that there is more information to cellphone than just the information given by the service providers, and that while a lot of data had been wiped, there is still a lot available and the State still has the middle man's phone. Stander concludes. Beeton asks for a brief five-minute adjournment.
http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Panayiotou-bail-hearing-enters-day-4-20150527
Laurie A Claase ‏@LaurieAClaase 3m3 minutes ago
Strength of State's case: Phone & car-hire records, experts & witnesses (& the video?) will link #Panayiotou to co-accused & the hit #Jayde
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State says that - should #ChristopherPanayiotou be deemed not to be a flight risk, granted bail - he should be put under house arrest.
12:02 - Price: Panayiotou has already indicated that he would prefer to be held in a communal cell as an individual cell is lonely.
12:01 - Price: While a single cell will be better than a communal cell, he has to deal with the solitary confinement.
12:05 - Price says the strength of the State’s case is not the be all and end all of whether bail should be granted or not, but it is just one aspect that needs to be taken into account.
Price says he is not going to get involved in a debate on the strength of case. Price says one just has to look at the [video] transcript to realise that this does not show he was involved in the murder of his wife.
12:07 - Highlighting sections, he refers to how the evidence doesn't show that it was a murder or a hit. Price says he has never met a prosecutor who has ever said he had a weak case.
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 7m7 minutes ago
#Panayiotou Defense's turn. Advocate Terry Price: "even if accused is kept in single cell, the food in prison is the same." SS
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 6m6 minutes ago
Price says video recording contradicts states case. #iol #Panayiotou
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 6m6 minutes ago
#Panayiotou Defense says in the video footage Panayiotou allegedly tells middleman they were only supposed to rob Jayde, not kill her. SS
12:09 - Price now referring to a book, Fruit of the Poisoned Tree wherein international fingerprint experts proved that a fingerprint had been planted. Price says he is not implying that the State has planted evidence. Price says that only if Panayiotou believed the State had a strong case, he would make a decision to flee.
12:13 - Price says that in their first affidavit, the state had denied that Siyoli had been made a section 204 witness; but that now it was coming out that Siyoli may well become a witness for the State.
12:11 - Price says that Panayiotou had 8 days, from the date of Jayde's murder to the date of his arrest, to access his Cyprus ID card and flee.
12:10 - Price says he still has not heard why accused number 1, Siyoli, was taken to Fort Beaufort after his arrest.
12:14 - Price argues that the recording of Christopher Panayiotou was entrapment, even though the State denies this.
12:16 - Price says as far as the issue of interference with witnesses and destroying evidence, he has already addressed this issue in his heads of argument.
12:19 - “It is the courts responsibility to look at what is the most probable,” Price tells Beeton.
12:17 - Price asks: How can the court find that the destruction of evidence of a sexual relationship, and removal of possible pornographic material from his phone was tampering with evidence?
12:21 - When an accused submits his version of events and it is not challenged by the State it has to be accepted, he continues. “90 % of the submissions made by Christopher Panayiotou went unchallenged.”
12:19 - “It is the courts responsibility to look at what is the most probable,” Price tells Beeton.
12:23 - Investigating Officer’s statements Price is now challenging statements submitted by IO Kanna Swanepoel, saying that he made misleading statements. Swanepoel, for one, stated as a matter of fact that the Cypriot passport had been obtained to avoid trial.
12:24 - Swanepoel should have indicated that he was in fact not sure of the fact that Panayiotou had the passport and that he was following up to confirm.
Karyn Maughan
‏@karynmaughan
Price attacks state for "nauseating" claims that #ChristopherPanayiotou parents deliberately lied about him having Cypriot passport.
12:27 - “You cannot falsify facts to keep a person in custody,” says Price.
Defense: Panayiotou is not a man who has financial problems because the town house he and Jayde lived in is fully financed by him. # sabcEC
@ewnreporter #Panayiotou what's the point of robbing jayde, not killing her. You're paying R70 000 to rob her of a small amount?
@ewnreporter Let me guess: #Panayiotou didn't flee 'cos like others he too thought he'd get away with the perfect planned murder!
12:33 - Panayiotou finances: Price is now addressing the issue of the accused's financial status.
12:33 - “The State’s submission of ‘false facts’ were in and of themselves exceptional circumstances and should be considered in the granting of bail.”
12:34 - Panayiotou has been able to secure the services of a senior advocate and attorney, which indicates that he has means. “I had to chuckle at all the speculation around my client’s business operations.”
12:35 - Price also points out that reference has been made to other shareholders, but says that these shareholders are in relation to BEE deals.
12:35 - Affidavits in front of the court say that Panayiotou runs the business and without him the businesses would fail.
12:36 - Price talks of how the State claims the accused has only got debt. He asks how is it then that he has R3.1m in assets?
12:37 - Tiervlei:
Price is now addressing the issue of Tiervlei, a man who is reported to have approached Christopher Panayiotou in St Albans and offered to have witnesses and evidence disappear.
12:38 - Tiervlei's affidavit is very vague, says Price, because he is talking absolute ‘hogwash’.
12:38 - Panayiotou’s attorney, Griebenow, brought the matter to the attention to the court.
12:39 - Price says that someone in the prison community had phoned him and told him that his client wanted his services. “The whole situation stinks to high heaven,” says Price.
Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Price: the only reason police came to know about Tiervlei is because #ChristopherPanayiotou reported his visit, attorney tracked him down.
Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Price: we are convinced that there is just as much chance of an acquittal as there is of a conviction. #ChristopherPanayiotou
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Price: not one of us can say that #ChristopherPanayiotou will be acquitted. But none of us can say he'll be convicted either.
State says that - should #ChristopherPanayiotou be deemed not to be a flight risk, granted bail - he should be put under house arrest.
12:02 - Price: Panayiotou has already indicated that he would prefer to be held in a communal cell as an individual cell is lonely.
12:01 - Price: While a single cell will be better than a communal cell, he has to deal with the solitary confinement.
12:05 - Price says the strength of the State’s case is not the be all and end all of whether bail should be granted or not, but it is just one aspect that needs to be taken into account.
Price says he is not going to get involved in a debate on the strength of case. Price says one just has to look at the [video] transcript to realise that this does not show he was involved in the murder of his wife.
12:07 - Highlighting sections, he refers to how the evidence doesn't show that it was a murder or a hit. Price says he has never met a prosecutor who has ever said he had a weak case.
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 7m7 minutes ago
#Panayiotou Defense's turn. Advocate Terry Price: "even if accused is kept in single cell, the food in prison is the same." SS
Viasen Soobramoney ‏@ViasenS 6m6 minutes ago
Price says video recording contradicts states case. #iol #Panayiotou
EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 6m6 minutes ago
#Panayiotou Defense says in the video footage Panayiotou allegedly tells middleman they were only supposed to rob Jayde, not kill her. SS
12:09 - Price now referring to a book, Fruit of the Poisoned Tree wherein international fingerprint experts proved that a fingerprint had been planted. Price says he is not implying that the State has planted evidence. Price says that only if Panayiotou believed the State had a strong case, he would make a decision to flee.
12:13 - Price says that in their first affidavit, the state had denied that Siyoli had been made a section 204 witness; but that now it was coming out that Siyoli may well become a witness for the State.
12:11 - Price says that Panayiotou had 8 days, from the date of Jayde's murder to the date of his arrest, to access his Cyprus ID card and flee.
12:10 - Price says he still has not heard why accused number 1, Siyoli, was taken to Fort Beaufort after his arrest.
12:14 - Price argues that the recording of Christopher Panayiotou was entrapment, even though the State denies this.
12:16 - Price says as far as the issue of interference with witnesses and destroying evidence, he has already addressed this issue in his heads of argument.
12:19 - “It is the courts responsibility to look at what is the most probable,” Price tells Beeton.
12:17 - Price asks: How can the court find that the destruction of evidence of a sexual relationship, and removal of possible pornographic material from his phone was tampering with evidence?
12:21 - When an accused submits his version of events and it is not challenged by the State it has to be accepted, he continues. “90 % of the submissions made by Christopher Panayiotou went unchallenged.”
12:19 - “It is the courts responsibility to look at what is the most probable,” Price tells Beeton.
12:23 - Investigating Officer’s statements Price is now challenging statements submitted by IO Kanna Swanepoel, saying that he made misleading statements. Swanepoel, for one, stated as a matter of fact that the Cypriot passport had been obtained to avoid trial.
12:24 - Swanepoel should have indicated that he was in fact not sure of the fact that Panayiotou had the passport and that he was following up to confirm.
Karyn Maughan
‏@karynmaughan
Price attacks state for "nauseating" claims that #ChristopherPanayiotou parents deliberately lied about him having Cypriot passport.
12:27 - “You cannot falsify facts to keep a person in custody,” says Price.
Defense: Panayiotou is not a man who has financial problems because the town house he and Jayde lived in is fully financed by him. # sabcEC
@ewnreporter #Panayiotou what's the point of robbing jayde, not killing her. You're paying R70 000 to rob her of a small amount?
@ewnreporter Let me guess: #Panayiotou didn't flee 'cos like others he too thought he'd get away with the perfect planned murder!
12:33 - Panayiotou finances: Price is now addressing the issue of the accused's financial status.
12:33 - “The State’s submission of ‘false facts’ were in and of themselves exceptional circumstances and should be considered in the granting of bail.”
12:34 - Panayiotou has been able to secure the services of a senior advocate and attorney, which indicates that he has means. “I had to chuckle at all the speculation around my client’s business operations.”
12:35 - Price also points out that reference has been made to other shareholders, but says that these shareholders are in relation to BEE deals.
12:35 - Affidavits in front of the court say that Panayiotou runs the business and without him the businesses would fail.
12:36 - Price talks of how the State claims the accused has only got debt. He asks how is it then that he has R3.1m in assets?
12:37 - Tiervlei:
Price is now addressing the issue of Tiervlei, a man who is reported to have approached Christopher Panayiotou in St Albans and offered to have witnesses and evidence disappear.
12:38 - Tiervlei's affidavit is very vague, says Price, because he is talking absolute ‘hogwash’.
12:38 - Panayiotou’s attorney, Griebenow, brought the matter to the attention to the court.
12:39 - Price says that someone in the prison community had phoned him and told him that his client wanted his services. “The whole situation stinks to high heaven,” says Price.
Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Price: the only reason police came to know about Tiervlei is because #ChristopherPanayiotou reported his visit, attorney tracked him down.
Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Price: we are convinced that there is just as much chance of an acquittal as there is of a conviction. #ChristopherPanayiotou
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Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Price: not one of us can say that #ChristopherPanayiotou will be acquitted. But none of us can say he'll be convicted either.
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Price says #ChristopherPanayiotou has a very deep family connection and some courts consider it enough to grant bail @HeraldPE
12:49 - Journalists catch a small breather as Price continues to cite very technical case law.
Price says #ChristopherPanayiotou has a very deep family connection and some courts consider it enough to grant bail @HeraldPE
12:49 - Journalists catch a small breather as Price continues to cite very technical case law.
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12:51 -
Price now wrapping up.
He refers to a judgement attached to his heads, addressing the issue of schedule 6 cases.
Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Because #Panayiotou has been charged with schedule 6 offense - premeditated murder - he needs to show exceptional circumstances to get bail
Price now wrapping up.
He refers to a judgement attached to his heads, addressing the issue of schedule 6 cases.
Karyn Maughan @karynmaughan
Because #Panayiotou has been charged with schedule 6 offense - premeditated murder - he needs to show exceptional circumstances to get bail
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12:54 - Beeton says she has one question relating to Price's request for her to consider the State’s ‘flagrant misleading’ of the court as exceptional circumstances...
12:56 - “Why did the defence advise Panayiotou not to disclose his Cypriot dual citizenship?” Beeton asks Price. “That this is absolutely shocking,” she says.
12:57 - Stander interjects, and has asked for the court to indulge him for 2 minutes.
12:59 - Stander says it is important that the affidavit by Investigating Officer Swanepoel was submitted when Price was not in court, and that it was submitted before Panayiotou’s response. He says this is crucial, as it means Swanepoel did not have access to the responses made by Panayiotou, so it could not be argued that Swanepoel is unethical.
12:59 - Price responds, saying that Swanepoel's statements are still false.
13:02 - Beeton is not happy with the back and forth. Beeton asks "now what?” Price chirps that it is now her turn to decide when she will hand down her judgment. Price has indicated that Griebenow has "gone globetrotting" and that Price will not be available tomorrow and Friday.
13:03 - Beeton has indicated that she had hoped to finalise the case by this Friday, but that due to the last two days and the number of other outstanding judgements this is unlikely.
13:05 - Beeton has indicated that she would like to finalise the matter by Friday. Addressing Panayiotou directly, she says she understands that he has been in custody for a long time.
13:06 - Matter postponed to June 4.
“It has been a lengthy application,” Beeton says.
Court has adjourned.
http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Panayiotou-bail-hearing-enters-day-4-20150527
12:56 - “Why did the defence advise Panayiotou not to disclose his Cypriot dual citizenship?” Beeton asks Price. “That this is absolutely shocking,” she says.
12:57 - Stander interjects, and has asked for the court to indulge him for 2 minutes.
12:59 - Stander says it is important that the affidavit by Investigating Officer Swanepoel was submitted when Price was not in court, and that it was submitted before Panayiotou’s response. He says this is crucial, as it means Swanepoel did not have access to the responses made by Panayiotou, so it could not be argued that Swanepoel is unethical.
12:59 - Price responds, saying that Swanepoel's statements are still false.
13:02 - Beeton is not happy with the back and forth. Beeton asks "now what?” Price chirps that it is now her turn to decide when she will hand down her judgment. Price has indicated that Griebenow has "gone globetrotting" and that Price will not be available tomorrow and Friday.
13:03 - Beeton has indicated that she had hoped to finalise the case by this Friday, but that due to the last two days and the number of other outstanding judgements this is unlikely.
13:05 - Beeton has indicated that she would like to finalise the matter by Friday. Addressing Panayiotou directly, she says she understands that he has been in custody for a long time.
13:06 - Matter postponed to June 4.
“It has been a lengthy application,” Beeton says.
Court has adjourned.
http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Panayiotou-bail-hearing-enters-day-4-20150527
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Price says the recording of conversation between Siyoli and Panayiotou is entrapment and should thus be disallowed .. Price is wrong .. here is the definition of entrapment, you decide! (Sourced from criminal law site) Entrapment happens when: -Law enforcement officials induce or persuade someone to commit a crime -That the person (most likely) wouldn’t have committed without being persuaded to do so.
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Tobina Mackenzie ‏@BowsMackenzie 21. Mai
#ChristopherPanayiotou Seems to me #Dewani and #Pistorius cases #paved the way for men to #slay their #partners and get away with #murder
#ChristopherPanayiotou Seems to me #Dewani and #Pistorius cases #paved the way for men to #slay their #partners and get away with #murder
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Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 27. Mai Übersetzung anzeigen
Indeed. RT @ewnreporter: #Panayiotou State: "wiping of phones was an extremely well calculated method to destroy evidence." SS
Indeed. RT @ewnreporter: #Panayiotou State: "wiping of phones was an extremely well calculated method to destroy evidence." SS
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Oh no - how awful.
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Why not C? They seem to have enough evidence.
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No it was Gerie Nel.
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The name probably sounds familiar to you as there was a Stander in the OP case. He was the Estate Manager, Johan Stander who was one of OP's friends/witnesses.
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Only my gut instict. ie neither Dewani nor Pistorius evidence have been sufficient. Rather CP's accomplices will get a high penalty, I think. I'm waiting for the outcome.
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