GUILTY South Africa - Jayde Panayiotou, 28, Port Elizabeth, 21 April 2015

[JudgeJudi]

What a monster! And he spent soooo much money already, poor man, his wife is dead, no big deal! He's quite calm considering all the stuff ups, there's no desperation in his voice and I think this is because it's SA, and he sees it as inconvenient if he were considered a prime suspect! He's out on bail too!!

It's interesting how CP has the same tone of voice like HvB, fairly soft spoken, calm, yet they're absolute psychopaths!! :scared:

Prime, he's not out on bail. He applied 3 times and each was denied. He has numerous relatives in Greece and was considered a flight risk.

He's been complaining about prison food, but strangely he's put on quite a bit of weight while in prison.

 

[Tortoise]

[FONT=&quot]Alleged middleman, Siyoni is no longer in police custody and remains a section 204 witness until the end trial when the Judge will rule on his testimony.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Judge Dayalin Chetty told Siyoni on the day he was sworn in as a witness that if he is found not to be truthful, he will be charged on four counts and therefore lose his immunity.

https://algoafm.co.za/article/local...ayiotou-trial-supported-by-alleged-middleman-
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[JudgeJudi]

[FONT=&amp]Alleged middleman, Siyoni is no longer in police custody and remains a section 204 witness until the end trial when the Judge will rule on his testimony.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Judge Dayalin Chetty told Siyoni on the day he was sworn in as a witness that if he is found not to be truthful, he will be charged on four counts and therefore lose his immunity.

https://algoafm.co.za/article/local...ayiotou-trial-supported-by-alleged-middleman-
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I've just put the link back for the third time. It's on #459 now. The internet must be slow and I didn't check.

 

[JudgeJudi]

He works at MTN. Manager at law enforcement liaison division

MS asks what the process would be if a policeman applied for section 205 access to a cellphone. "He would apply through a magistrate"

The technical unit would then do all the checks & balances.

In this particular case, information was made available to police in excel format

MS shows him a document with a case number. This is the subpoena which was submitted to MTN

https://twitter.com/kathrynreporter?lang=en

 

[Tortoise]

MTN Group, formerly M-Cell, is a South Africa-based multinational mobile telecommunications company, operating in many African, European and Asian countries. Its head office is in Johannesburg.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r..._Group&usg=AFQjCNGLJ3lT9WIW9xd5hG1-i5-vCfgmtw

 

[Tortoise]

court in session. Next witness is Darmesh Kanti (not sure of spelling as he is not on original list)
Kanti from MTN. He will assist when police ask for phone records with a subpoena for example
Kanti explains the section 205 (request from SAPS) will need a stamp from magistrate and then only they can proceed.
Kanti says once this is done they will access MTN's records
Kanti is shown a document in court he confirms it is the 205 subpoena
Kanti explains that senior manager will allocate duties to staff members before they deal with request.
Kanti says several numbers were part of subpoena but some were not of any interest.
Kanti now goes through the excell sheet and where they capture what (for court to have a clear understanding)
Kanti wants to clarify first MTN uses 6 different ways of identifying messages. Ex: incoming, outgoing, voicemail etc
Kanti going through technical mumbo jumbo about reference numbers, calls made etc


https://twitter.com/alzammer

 

[JudgeJudi]

What is MTN's stance. Would they furnish info to IO without subpoena?
He says they would not if the correct channels haven't been followed

MS refers to the cellphone billing of a number ending 726.

Kanti is testifying about base stations & towers. This will later relate to the evidence of the cellphone plotting expert.

https://twitter.com/kathrynreporter?lang=en

 

[JudgeJudi]

The dreaded cell phone testimony, pings, towers etc.

 

[Tortoise]

Both these journos have photos of Gerrie Nel at the head of their twitter pages

https://twitter.com/KathrynReporter
https://twitter.com/alzammer


Oops yeah what were you saying .. phone masts *yawn*

 

[Tortoise]

(calls go all the way back to January 2015)
Kanti clarifies that all their information on billing pertains ONLY to 071 numbers
Map shown in court with all the towers in the Metro area. Kanti explains the sequence of numbers to each tower
State zooms into specific towers. Kanti says the one is Algoa Park and the other at a flat in Uitenhage.
Kanti goes through several towers now giving their street locations.
Kanti goes through every tower and identifies. (Important for State to do this to get it all on record)

https://twitter.com/alzammer

 

[Tortoise]

Price to cross asks for Kanti's qualifications
he has a Bcom and degree from London (fraud specialist) Price asks if he is a legal expert? He says no

https://twitter.com/alzammer

 

[JudgeJudi]

The witness is shown a map full of red dots. These are tower locations

We hear the names of the various towers relevant here. One in Algoa Park, Uitenhage, Dora Nginza hospital

It is uncomfortably hot in court. Aircons are not working and the courtroom is packed

TP asks about Kanti's qualifications. He received a degree through Cambridge University in the U.K
[I bet TP is sorry he asked about his qualifications]

Kanti says he cannot comment on outside factors which would influence which tower picks up a call

https://twitter.com/kathrynreporter?lang=en

 

[Tortoise]

TP asks about Kanti's qualifications. He received a degree through Cambridge University in the U.K.
Kanti says he cannot comment on outside factors which would influence which tower picks up a call

https://twitter.com/KathrynReporter

Price asks Kanti if he is aware of the fact that weather can affect towers? Height, width, contract, pay as you go etc?
Kanti says he is not an engineer. He says weather can be factor but contract or pre-paid not at all

https://twitter.com/alzammer

 

[Tortoise]

I'll stick to @alzammer JJ, thought you'd gone for a while, sorry

 

[Tortoise]

Price says they spoke to a phone expert who said it does make difference. Kanti says they have stopped overlay of stations

https://twitter.com/alzammer

Bring your expert then Pricey, why should court take your word for it?

 

[Tortoise]

Kanti says basically if a tower cannot pic up your signal another wont pic it up. (since 2011)
Price brings up murder case in USA where call was picked up 100 miles from relevant tower. Kanti says cant testify on USA

https://twitter.com/alzammer

 

[Tortoise]

Daubermann for accused 2/3 is not prepared to cross. Witness deviated from evidence. Stander lead different evidence
Daubermann says he got these documents only TODAY and he wants to reserve his cross-examination for a later stage
(Kanti is from Jhb, which means he will have to come back to be crossed) Daubermann visibly annoyed
Witness will have to stand down for now. court will adjourn till tomorrow

https://twitter.com/alzammer

I've seen less tantrums in a nursery school

 

[JudgeJudi]

TP refers to a murder case in US. Says a cellphone expert, "far more qualified than you" said calls could be picked up from 100 Mike's away

"I cannot comment on towers in America".

TP has no further questions. Peter Daubermann (for Nemembe & Sibeko) is not in a position to proceed now. Wants to prepare for cross-exam

Kanti has been excused. He will be recalled for cross-examination at a later stage. Court adjourns to tomorrow morning

https://twitter.com/kathrynreporter?lang=en

 

[LouP1209]

Both these journos have photos of Gerrie Nel at the head of their twitter pages

https://twitter.com/KathrynReporter
https://twitter.com/alzammer


Oops yeah what were you saying .. phone masts *yawn*

Nelly looks like he's enjoying himself in the second photo :laughing:

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Nelly looks like he's enjoying himself in the second photo :laughing:

:blushing: :whistle: