South Africa - Martin, 55, Theresa, 54, Rudi van Breda, 22, murdered, 26 Jan 2015 #1

[JudgeJudi]

Botha holds axe and knife - axe facing toward him; knife held at blade, also pointing at him.

Does it fit in with the print?

Olifant does not want to speculate. Olifant says 3 prints found on knife, 2 unidentifiable.

At top of blade, smeared print. Another further down.

Botha says the domestic worker let herself in at the side gate that Monday morning, 26 Jan.

Were her fingerprints found?

No.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/live-van-breda-axe-murder-trial-day-14-20170518

 

[JudgeJudi]

Responding officer's fingerprints also not found by Olifant at the scene.

Olifant says if fingerprints are wiped off, it won't be found. Also if gloves are used.

Olifant done. Adjournment.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...ay-14-20170518

 

[Tortoise]

Judge Desai is asking if there is a possibility that someone cleaned the axe after using it. Oliphant says it is possible...#VanBreda

https://twitter.com/Percyoung

 

[Tortoise]

Wake up Galloway!

 

[Tortoise]

@CapeTownEtc #vanbreda Desai - so no finger prints were on the axe handle? No

https://twitter.com/Traceyams

 

[JudgeJudi]

As far as Galloway is concerned, the lights are on and no-one's home.

I'm having such a hissy fit here I can hardly type.

 

[L2L]

As far as Galloway is concerned, the lights are on and no-one's home.

I'm having such a hissy fit here I can hardly type.

Same here, JJ! It's like she doesn't want to know there's a trial going on. Can't see the state winning if this continues.

 

[Tortoise]

tweets from SCA

Van Zyl SC for #VanBreda in #VanBredaMedia: trial concerns circumstantial evidence, expert evidence. Set down for 11 weeks (whole term)

Van Zyl - accepts that section 16 right to free speech includes right to broadcast. But #VanBreda has fair trial rights #VanBredaMedia

https://twitter.com/Dariomilo

 

[Tortoise]

follow this link for the SCA updates https://twitter.com/Dariomilo

 

[Tortoise]

Oh my - which experts?

Epstein - says #OscarPistorius case experience shows danger of cameras

in court : e.g. experts careers destroyed #VanBredaMedia

https://twitter.com/Dariomilo

 

[JudgeJudi]

Mods, please note:

I've noticed that several of my news24 links aren't working, and yet they're being copied and pasted from the address bar. I have no idea how this can happen. ALL my posts containing text from the live news feed are from news24.

 

[JudgeJudi]

O/T

Dario Milo 39m39 minutes ago

Leach JA - half of this trial has not been televised; would it be fair for other half to now be televised? Unfair to accused? #VanBredaMedia

 

[JudgeJudi]

We are back.

Next witness - Dr Marianne Tiemensma.

She is medical specialist. She is employed at the Clinical Forensic Unit at Victoria Hospital . Her expertise include pathology.

Dr Tiemensma was asked by SAPS and Dr Albertse to examine Henri's injuries.

Knife was also shown to her. She compiled reports on her findings of Henri's injuries.

Two reports: one 12 Feb '15, and another 10 March '15.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/live-van-breda-axe-murder-trial-day-14-20170518

 

[JudgeJudi]

Dr Tiemensma: The cut marks were superficial.

Incisions have even depth, parallel and avoid sensitive areas like nipples.

The forearm wounds in keeping with self inflicted injuries, non lethal, even depth.

Injuries in reachable areas.

Thorax and abdomen look different, look caused by stabbing action; also superficial.

Head injuries blunt force, skin in tact. All superficial, non-fatal.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/live-van-breda-axe-murder-trial-day-14-20170518

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Tracey Stewart‏ @Traceyams 10m10 minutes ago @CapeTownEtc #vanbreda

photographs were given to her to form an opinion on wounds
the knife was shown to Dr Marianne
After considering all the info you compiled a report on your findings on the injuries
two different reports one in feb one in march 2015

Summarise- given injuries sustained Dr Albertse categorized them as thorax head back and legs
What was your opinion? go through your report
cuts are superficial and non-fatal - parallel regular
Dr Marianne concludes that the wounds were self inflicted

wounds to the head, above eye blunt force trauma unlikely to be self inflicted
wounds to the back scratches abrasions, not self inflicted

 

[JudgeJudi]

Judging shape and size of knife, it was virtually impossible for the knife to have been stuck in any of the stab wounds.

On the stab wounds: I am of the opinion that they are self inflicted, superficial and non fatal.

In stark contrast to the rest of the injuries sustained.

Wounds to the head, swelling and bruise on eye, could be caused by a blow to face or fall. Unlikely self inflicted.

Wounds to back - blunt force and unlikely to be self inflicted.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/live-van-breda-axe-murder-trial-day-14-20170518

 

[Tortoise]

Judging shape and size of knife, it was virtually impossible for the knife to have been stuck in any of the stab wounds.

On the stab wounds: I am of the opinion that they are self inflicted, superficial and non fatal.

In stark contrast to the rest of the injuries sustained.

Wounds to the head, swelling and bruise on eye, could be caused by a blow to face or fall. Unlikely self inflicted.

Wounds to back - blunt force and unlikely to be self inflicted.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/live-van-breda-axe-murder-trial-day-14-20170518

YES! More witnesses like this please.

Knife would not have stayed in him.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Tracey Stewart‏ @Traceyams 2m2 minutes ago

SG - so you categorize chest and left forearm which in your opinion is consistent with self inflicted
The face back and right leg unlikely to be self inflicted
SG- the wounds to the head you said it could have been a blow to the face or a fall - yes

@CapeTownEtc #vanbreda

 

[Tortoise]

And VanZyl is done. @MyNews24 advocate up now. #vanbredamedia

Sorry @media24 up now not @News24 #VanBredaMedia

https://twitter.com/Billbobbird

 

[PrimeSuspect]

YES! More witnesses like this please.

Knife would not have stayed in him.

lease:

I'd love to see Botha huffing and puffing! No word on HvB's demeanor, pity.