South Africa - Martin, 55, Theresa, 54, Rudi van Breda, 22, murdered, 26 Jan 2015 #3

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/AJGMolyneaux

Otto is reading out report of DNA samples complied of each #vanbreda family member.

The match probability is theoretical. Otto reads out Henri's DNA findings. 1 in 261 billion probability it is Henri's.


https://twitter.com/Traceyams

Otto is very prepared, handing out copies of her summarized report to the Judge and the legal teams

Otto: this is the exact same thing that will be in my report - Otto is showing a picture of DNA profiling

Otto: reading out report profiles we obtained in first analysis of Rudi

Otto: reads our exhibits and the swabs that were tested against the exhibits including:blood on knife, on floor of boys room etc

Otto:taking us through report trying to simplify it but using the number references it's impossible to understand

Otto: referring to DNA and states that 1 in 261 billion people will match

Otto refers to Marli's profile-look at profile of Rudi Henri and Marli you see tendency of DNA repeating

Each profile unique but you can clearly see a relationship

Otto: Marli's DNA matches various numbered samples - 1 in every 35 billion match profile

Otto: refers back to samples with profile of Teresa, her profile is on page 1 of the report

Otto: Teresa profile read into court. For interest sake at each and every genetic market atleast one is the same to all 3 children

Otto: Top floor, sock, stain 11, matches DNA of Teresa. 1 Person in every 90 billion

Otto: Profile of Martin (father) again reads out a list of number references

 

[JudgeJudi]

Marli: XX - female. blood spatter (two). Match probably 1 in every 35bn people

Teresa: XX - female. DNA from passage top floor, and sock stain matches hers.


You can watch live streaming here. News24 isn't working for me.

[video=youtube;NFxDRufvewQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFxDRufvewQ[/video]

 

[Tortoise]

I'm sure she could simplify this.

Just say Henri's blood was found at x. Forget all the long number references.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/Traceyams

Otto: Profile of Martin (father) again reads out a list of number references

Otto: now deal with "mixture" results (I think thats what she said)

Otto: reads out the numbers of references found on Henri's left hand

DNA result from Teresa,Rudi and henri can be read into nail scraping from left hand of Henri

Otto: Probability of Henri's nail scrapings having Rudi and Teresa DNA is 1 person in every 709 000 people

Otto: bottom of axe handle also mixture result-

Otto: Conclusion from Axe Handle swab -DNA Henri's found, blood from bottle of axe handle. [bottom?]

Otto: there was other DNA but not enough to make conclusions according to our standards

Match probability 1 in every 741 00 people

Otto: Blood swab from head of the axe matches Teresa and Rudi, there is other DNA but not enough to make conclusions

 

[JudgeJudi]

live link

[video=youtube;NFxDRufvewQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFxDRufvewQ[/video]

Tortoise. This is more than a little strange. Your "link" doesn't work at all and I only see a black box. However, when I went to Reply With Quote, your YouTube link appeared!!!

Oops, just noticed my link above is doing the same.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/AJGMolyneaux

The mixture profile results of blood on axe handle-male DNA present-Henri's DNA found.There is more DNA on handle but not possible ..to read as there weren't enough markers for those samples.

Otto continues: DNA of Teresa and Rudi can be read in blood on head of axe.

 

[Tortoise]

Gremlins at work again JJ

 

[PrimeSuspect]

I'm sure she could simplify this.

Just say Henri's blood was found at x. Forget all the long number references.

I agree. Surely the defence would check that everything is coded and categorized correctly, but seems like in this trial it has to be presented to the judge. :thinking:

 

[JudgeJudi]

Martin: XY - male. DNA on shorts.

Now refers to second report, which has mixture results. Nail scrapings from Henri's left hand have Teresa, Rudi and Henri's DNA.

Mixture result of blood on the bottom of axe handle - DNA of Henri can be read. There is additional DNA but not enough for her to confirm others.

Next mixture result of blood from the head of the axe - male and female DNA. Teresa and Rudi's DNA can be read.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...spotlight-as-van-breda-trial-resumes-20170807

 

[Tortoise]

[FONT=&quot]Otto: DNA of Rudi, Teresa and Henri was found from Swab of shower floor

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[Tortoise]

[FONT=&quot]Otto: only match for DNA on handle of the knife was Rudi

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[Really?]

Does Henri have any family in court ? Or did he kill them all ?

Sis is alive I think ?

 

[JudgeJudi]

Touch DNA from axe found on stairs: DNA of Marli, Teresa and Rudi can be read.

Swab which contained blood from corner of shower floor. Rudi, Teresa and Henri's DNA can be read.

Swab with touch DNA form the handle of the knife. Profile is XY (male) only full result is that of Rudi.

Martin's right hand nail scrapings - only profile read is that of Rudi.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...spotlight-as-van-breda-trial-resumes-20170807

 

[Tortoise]

Does Henri have any family in court ? Or did he kill them all ?

Sis is alive I think ?

Marli is alive.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/Traceyams

Otto: DNA result of Marli, Teresa and Rudi can be read into the swab touch DNA of axe on stairs

Otto: corner of shower floor- predominantly male but could be female DNA present

Otto: conclusion of corner of shower floor: DNA of Rudi, Teresa and Henri can be read into the DNA swab on corner, floor shower

Otto: remember the combination is just different variations of the same DNA

Otto:swab with touch DNA handle of knife - profile X,Y (male and female)

Otto: only DNA result that can be read into the result is that of reference sample Rudi

Finger nail swapping right hand of Martin - its mainly male

Martin's nail scrapings contained reference samples of the DNA of Rudi



(So Henri washed off all their blood in the shower and remnants left ?)

 

[JudgeJudi]

Does Henri have any family in court ? Or did he kill them all ?

Sis is alive I think ?

IIRC the only family who has attended court has been one of Martin's brothers, but I don't know if he attends every day. Yes, Marli survived ... just. She is still suffering from retrograde amnesia.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/Traceyams

Otto:blood splatter, male reference

Otto: blood splatter sample read into the DNA of Martin and Rudi

 

[PrimeSuspect]

[FONT="]Otto: only match for DNA on handle of the knife was Rudi

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What does this mean? Did Henri take Rudi's hand and grip it around the knife while he lay dying or dead? Did Rudi have a knife under his pillow ready to defend himself?

 

[Tortoise]

I may as well be listening to a foreign language. I hope there is a good summary at some point.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/Traceyams

Otto refers to profile of Rudi- socks, stain 2,13,15,16, blood on door room 1 blood floor in room floor in bathroom

Otto: continues reading Rudi's DNA profile matches: Shorts stains and some 20+ matches

Rudi's DNA is on socks and shorts - I understand these to be socks and shorts of Henri

Otto: Now dealing with Martin's profile and where his DNA was found

Otto: Martin's DNA on socks 199, shorts stains

Otto: Teresa's profile, her DNA was found on a number of samples. Otto names exhibits -passage top floor, blood spatter

Marli's DNA profile matched to exhibits - top floor of passage

Henri's DNA profile matched exhibits- shorts, several stains matched.

Otto- referring now to "mixture" results - definitely not "picture"


(btw, the sound is clearer now)