South Africa - Martin, 55, Theresa, 54, Rudi van Breda, 22, murdered, 26 Jan 2015 #4

[JudgeJudi]

Pistorius

The State's appeal to lengthen OP's six year sentence is scheduled for tomorrow, Friday, 3 November.

http://www.enca.com/south-africa/timeline-supreme-court-of-appeals-to-hear-pistorius-appeal

 

[JudgeJudi]

Yes indeed, JJ, and let's dare hope there's more of the same in store tomorrow. I don't at all mind Galloway asking for an early adjournment to prepare for a new aspect tomorrow - more power to her! Seems to me she has scored some important points today, and I wonder what more she's got up her sleeve? Can't wait to find out! :biggrin:

See #635 further up the page.

 

[JudgeJudi]

O/T Panayiotou judgment Thursday, 2 November

 

[Fluffykins]

No evidence physically of a second axe on the scene. Correct, #VanBreda replies.

Galloway asks for adjournment to tomorrow to deal with incident between #VanBreda and attacker. Desai allows. Court resumes at 10:00.

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Thanks for referring me back to this post JJ, I must have somehow skimmed over it. The "incident" referred to would be the slashing/stabbing assault upon Henri, would it? Sounds like another interesting evening coming up! :woot:

 

[Fluffykins]

Oh, and thanks once again to JJ and IB for all the tweets, updates and links - it's all so much appreciated!

:tyou: :tyou: :tyou:

 

[LeanaSA]

It's just so absurd

Also, Botha warning the Judge of HvB's stutter and so forth, HvB is so articulate, he's outdoing both advocates but I think mainly because English is his first language, his pronunciation is excellent, very upper crust. I notice he stutters only slightly when he's nervous about the question or about to tell a lie, I wonder. :thinking:

I don’t think English is his first language. I think it is an Afrikaans accent that has been blunted by years of private schooling and living abroad


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[Tortoise]

I've got fish in my freezer that isn't as cold as this one.

Not one tear shed for his brother, mother or father. I would say from my experience it is very difficult to talk about deceased loved ones, without emotion taking over. He remembers his family without any emotion. I've seen reactions in him, but I would say it looks to me more like he's going to vomit at the memory of the blood. People who watched the Pistorius trial may recall that he had problems remembering the smell of blood too.

I loved Desai's question -

"Why didn't you shout to your mother to not come?"
"I don't know."
"What?"
"I don't know"
"What??"
"I don't know"

I've marked the video here https://youtu.be/6H1HuZuQ8wY?t=40m38s

 

[Tortoise]

Now we can understand why Botha didn't want to put him on the stand.

:freakedout:

:bombshell:

 

[Tortoise]

Did you notice his attempt at garnering sympathy? 'I still have nightmares about that laugh'.

And his quip yesterday - 'every family has one person who doesn't want to play Monopoly'.

Why would he even think of cracking a joke if he really was recalling a memory of playing Scrabble with his mum.

He needs a mental evaluation.

 

[L2L]

Thanks for referring me back to this post JJ, I must have somehow skimmed over it. The "incident" referred to would be the slashing/stabbing assault upon Henri, would it? Sounds like another interesting evening coming up! :woot:

Yes, Fluffykins, we'll hear all about the pain he endured when pulling the knife out of his side!:boohoo:

 

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/tanyafarber

Henri van Breda wants to testify with cameras off. He has worn many faces in this trial https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...does-not-want-his-testimony-caught-on-camera/ … @TimesLIVE

Because of his stutter Henri van Breda wants the cameras off while he testifies, unlike other witnesses https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...da-wants-cameras-removed-before-he-testifies/ … @TimesLIVE

#VanBreda gives testimony in his own defence https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2017-10-31-van-breda-tells-his-side-of-the-story/ … @TimesLive


#VanBreda re-enacts murder of Rudi - chilling. Demeanour in court very diff to what lawyer said it would be https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...es-brothers-axing-in-cape-high-court/ … @TimesLIVE

So many contradictions highlighted in #VanBreda case; state prosecutor takes it on #criminaljustice https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...secutor-highlights-van-bredas-contradictions/ … @TimesLIVE

Much made of Henri van Breda stutter by defence, but it seems to be missing in action

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2017-11-01-no-stutter-as-henri-takes-stand/ … @TimesLIVE

 

[Fluffykins]

Thanks for all those links, Prime. The second last one is mighty interesting:

Was he in the bathroom or the bedroom?

Previous statements by Van Breda had him in the bathroom‚ watching the attack on his parents‚ brother and sister from a “slightly open door”.

When blood spatter expert Captain Marius Joubert testified for the state‚ however‚ the question arose as to how blood spatter from family members could have ended up on his shorts if he was mainly behind the door.

Also‚ pointed out Galloway‚ there was a distinct “lack of blood spatter around the bathroom door”.

On Wednesday‚ Van Breda claimed he “stood in the corner of the room and was definitely outside the bathroom” as the attacks unfolded.

Galloway pointed out that in his statement to the police he had said‚ “I then stood there afraid” and did not mention leaving the bathroom because he was “frozen” in fear.

When Galloway pointed out that his latest description contradicted this‚ he put it down to a “mistranslation” by Beneke.

Judge Siraj Desai pointed out that it could not be a “mistranslation” since Van Breda was speaking English‚ and Beneke was writing in English.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2017-11-01-prosecutor-highlights-van-bredas-contradictions/

So his family's blood spatter on Henri, but a lack of any around the bathroom door where he supposedly stood!

Surely that alone should be enough to put him away.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Hi Everyone :wave: Today should be very interesting!

The twitter feed has been going crazy! No one is buying HvB's story.

 

[L2L]

Hi Everyone :wave: Today should be very interesting!

Thanks, Prime! We're going to need it!

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Thanks, Prime! We're going to need it!

That's for sure L2L! I hope Galloway keeps at him like yesterday.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Some of the sickening testimony yesterday:

You saw attacker moving towards your mother. What did you do? #VanBreda: I didn't do anything, he says.
Why didn't you shout at her to run away, Judge Desai asks. I don't know,
If I had been thinking clearly I probably would have done these things; if I hadn't been so scared.
Desai: what about instinctively trying to help?
H: Correct I should have. Desai and you put that all down to the state of your fear? H: yes
G: it was put to dempers that you are a physically strong person and was at the time?
H yes G: physically active? H correct
G: So not like you are a sickly small built person? H: no
H: my dad was recovering from successfully removing bowel cancer - in October 2014

So Martin was recovering from bowel cancer but immediately went to Rudi’s aid while the gutless wonder, who was the largest and strongest male in the family … did nothing.

 

[L2L]

That's for sure L2L! I hope Galloway keeps at him like yesterday.

Go Get Him, Gallaway!

 

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/HiRezLife

Welcome to day 56 of the triple homicide trial. It's Henri's 3rd consecutive day on the stand. A cloudy day in Cape Town.

Galloway for the state set to continue her cross-examination of enigmatic young Henri.

Notice how low the imputed victim is via the left hand. Hip level. Bed or sitting level. https://www.instagram.com/p/Ba-625bhyR1/

Henri #VanBreda just arrived in court for day 56. Public gallery fairly empty but uncle sits top right. Henri gives him a brief nod.

Other half of #vanBreda counsel back in court today as well. Interesting.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

https://twitter.com/AJGMolyneaux

And we’re back for DAY 3 of Henri #VanBreda testimony. Yesterday we saw Henri wielding an axe replica. Wonder what’s going to happen today.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Cross examination of Henri #VanBreda by prosecutor Susan Galloway will enter its third day in the WC High Court today.

Adv Combrink here pro bono to assist. Not sure if Henri #VanBreda will qualify for legal aid as he does receive an income, Adv Botha says.

Access card usage records face and registration number of person entering De Zalze, #VanBreda agrees.

Didn't check footage, so #VanBreda hasn't checked if assailant matching his description was captured on camera.

When assailant re-entered room, he looked at me and started laughing, #VanBreda says. He didn't look around? No, I didn't notice him do that.

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