Southwest Flight Attendant Tries to Boot Hooters Waitress From Plane Over Clothing

[JBean]

Couple things jumped out at me.
In the article says she agreed to cover her stomach..but when she is wearing the outfit on Matt Lauer she has it pulled down. I don't think she is wearing it the same way she was when she got on the plane.
Then she gets on the return flight in the same outfit?

My guess is that she had the skirt really pulled up really high or really low, the shirt up to where her belly showed and the top pulled down to where her cleavage hung out. I do not think they singled her out iof the outfit was as benign as they are making it out to be. Then she adjusted the outfit to make it less skimpy and then they let her fly. Then she wears the same outfit to return?! She probably adjusted it before getting on.
Either which way, it was resolved, so to sue, if she does, it nonsensical. If they had not let her fly, then I can see a case. But they did let her fly and she got to where she needed to go, there was no money spent on new clothes and so it's all good. No case IMO.
Any credibility she might have had is gone out the window,IMO, since she is considering a lawsuit, GMAB. I cannot believe she took it to the media! LMAO.

I think the truth on this story is somewhere in between both stories. She sure is a cute gal though. I just think she is getting some bad advice.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

This should make for a good debate...

A 23-year-old college student claimed Friday that Southwest Airlines singled her out after a male flight attendant told her that her white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals and sweater over a tank top was too "revealing."
Southwest Airlines stands behind that flight attendant's decision two months ago to confront Kyla Ebbert, who also works as Hooters waitress in downtown San Diego, after complaints from another employee about Ebbert's choice of clothing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296053,00.html

I saw this girl on the Today show with her mother and her lawyer. When she went to sit down on the couch, they had to blur out her privates so that they could show the interview on television. I'd say that was too short. I don't want to see anyone's "goodies" on an airplane.

 

[Autumn2004]

I saw this girl on the Today show with her mother and her lawyer. When she went to sit down on the couch, they had to blur out her privates so that they could show the interview on television. I'd say that was too short. I don't want to see anyone's "goodies" on an airplane.

Me either, I always dressed in comfort on airplanes especially when you have to sit for so long. I would be ticked if my daughter saw it.

 

[JBean]

Isn't anyone flabbergasted that she took this story to the media?! This will be her internet legacy LMAO.

 

[JanetElaine]

I saw this girl on the Today show with her mother and her lawyer. When she went to sit down on the couch, they had to blur out her privates so that they could show the interview on television. I'd say that was too short. I don't want to see anyone's "goodies" on an airplane.

Not singling you out Jeana, but just one of the many times this was said about when she was on TV.

I say again: why was everyone trying to get a look of her 'goodies'? Planes are so full of seats that you definitely cannot see her from upfront when she's sitting down. So people must have actually made an effort in order for them to see anything.

How come it is socially acceptable to stare at someone with good looks, when a person that might take up one and a half seats on an airplane with a riding up T-shirt quickly gets looked away from?

I've seen both kinds of dress on airplanes several times.

 

[Autumn2004]

Isn't anyone flabbergasted that she took this story to the media?! This will be her internet legacy LMAO.

I would feel like an arse, I would NOT be going on tv about it !

 

[Camper]

Wellllll, ol' granny is checking in on this story.

1. Funky skirt.
2. HOW tall is she and did she have an inside or an outside seat?
2.a. IF she is really really tall getting out of her seat to go to the powder room would give the middle seat person and aisle person, a close up and personal look at her (stuff).
3. In event of a CRASH, I personally would want more between my skin and flames.
4. I think pednurse whose encounter with the old lady in Macys, has a daughter that is a flight attendant on SWA.
5. She really had what appeared to be LONG Legs, however, wearing a SHORT skirt can fool the eye into thinking that she is TALLER than reality reveals.
6. She is pretty. That can be a problem for OTHER people to deal with who ain't so purty. I know cuz I was once pretty. Hmmm.

For safety, I say cover up yer skin with non synthetic fabrics, in case of FIRE etc.

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[CyberLaw]

I guess my point is: On a plane there is not much room, even if you decide to take a a nap(in coach or economy) you kind of have to curl up in your seat to be comfortable. You have to "squeeze" past people is you do not have an aisle seat, and also when you go to the bathroom, you have to walk the aisle, and your waist area and below is more or less near eye level.

On the street, you can leave, look the other way and have a way to escape dress that you feel is offensive. But on a plane, where are you going to go. Where are your kids going to go. Is is not like you can "just step" away, or take another route, because you are up in the air.

Obviously, the women has no regard for other people, it is not "accident" that she dresses like that, it is the "look" at me, look at me, all attention on me look. Iff one person, affects the comfort of everyone else, as in she puts her need for attention over and above the "comfort" of others, then yes she is in the wrong. As the rest of the passenger paid the same price, are flying on the same plane and deserve the "same" level of comfort over and above a "attention" seeking 20 something.

I feel what the airline did was correct, I am sure more then one person complained about her "short, short" skirt.

 

[Dryad]

Here's the link with the video from The Today Show:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638479/

 

[Buzz Mills]

I would feel like an arse, I would NOT be going on tv about it !

Her chance at 15 minutes of fame.

I hope SWA doesn't give in.

No doubt in my mind that SWA had every right not to allow her on the plane until she adjusted her clothing.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

does the airline have signs posted about a dress code or what they deem "is" or "isn't" appropriate?

If not then they are out of line.

I can see "no shirt, no shoes, no service"
but I've never seen "buttcracks and cleavage mean no service" LOL

Give her an airline blanket to cover up and move along, I say

 

[CyberLaw]

O.K. lets look at this the other way: You pay for a service, along with 100 other people, but one person who pays for the service affects 99 others who paid the same price. They are "fully" expected to "bow" down to the one person who has poor judgement and comprises your "comfort".

The answer to that is no. Unless of course the one person pays for the other 99 people. This girl is immature, self centrered, unconcerned about the "comfort" and rights" of others to enjoy a plane ride.

Cover up with a blanket, that is not the answer. What is she says: No way, no going to do it. She "drops" the blanket when she goes to the bathroom. Sits down with out the blanket.

The fact that she works at "Hooters" is a the first clue to her personality.

Again the fact that no one could "escape" her dress when in mid air is very telling. This girl "wants" control over others and sees herself as the centre of attention is a sexual manner.

Again, I feel the airline were looking out for the "majority" of their paying customers over one individual. One individual's "choice" to dress in the manner does not out weight the "rights" of other paying customers.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

A crying baby on a plane would annoy me 10 rows in front of me more than a girl with
"revealing" clothing.
In fact, one little boy in front of me on a plane last month drove me up a wall!

That's the price you pay when you pay to travel publically.

In my opinion, people let themselves be bothered.
Read a book, recline your seat and relax.


Also ... again, if there's no policy posted, then there's no crime.

 

[JBean]

It's pretty clear in their policy that they can refuse to transport someone that has lewd clothing on.
I think this is much ado about nothing and this gal should move on! Looking for a buck is all she is up to. there is no noble cause here.

As an aside they can refuse transport if you are barefoot and over the age of 5. (unlss it is a disability)So don't forget your shoes when you travel!

When you purchase a tickey, you agree to be bound by their rules.

http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/coc.pdf

ETA: The power she does have is to never use that airline again and that is what I would do if I were 'humiliated". But beyond that..forget about it.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

what defines "lewd" though?

I see the definition of lewd http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lewd
but nothing is defined really except by each individual's code of what is and isn't indecent. Their wording is too vague.
Because of this vagueness, the girl could have a lawsuit against the airlines for discrimination.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

I think that is a different topic entirely.
Simply something you will have to teach at home.

The real issue is if the SWA had the right to do this to THIS girl in THAT outfit. (or anyone else not breaking an indecency law)
If some mother with children had some issue she should have been told to shut the hell up and mind her own business...
Or maybe told that rather then teaching her children how one should not dress she was teaching them to be judgemental. Or perhaps she has some chip on her shoulder to match her never ending stretchmarks and wide a$$???

The article did only make reference to employee's having some issues.

I will say this the majority of airline stewardesses or what ever the heck they wish to be called this week are arrogant B*****.
I have only ever met one that is nice to be around.
Since 9/11 the arrogance and sense of authority has only gotten worse ...
Apparently everyone has forgotten to remind the little darlings that regardless of what they call themselves they are still glorified waitresses in the air.

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great post,
I totally agree

 

[angelmom]

what defines "lewd" though?

I see the definition of lewd http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lewd
but nothing is defined really except by each individual's code of what is and isn't indecent. Their wording is too vague.
Because of this vagueness, the girl could have a lawsuit against the airlines for discrimination.

But what would she sue them for? They did allow her to fly. So she'd be suing b/c the guy embarrassed her? GMAB.

The people who have been held hostage on the runway for hours due to weather or mechanical delays with no toilets or food have a reason to sue. This girl has a right to tell everyone she knows about her bad experience with a business and move on with her life. Why she's on the Today show, I have no idea. Except I do think Matt Lauer was getting his jollies. He even admitted he was trying to keep eye contact.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

But what would she sue them for? They did allow her to fly. So she'd be suing b/c the guy embarrassed her? GMAB.

The people who have been held hostage on the runway for hours due to weather or mechanical delays with no toilets or food have a reason to sue. This girl has a right to tell everyone she knows about her bad experience with a business and move on with her life. Why she's on the Today show, I have no idea. Except I do think Matt Lauer was getting his jollies. He even admitted he was trying to keep eye contact.

You answered your question with your line before your question :crazy:
Because it's her right to tell everyone about it.

 

[JBean]

what defines "lewd" though?

I see the definition of lewd http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lewd
but nothing is defined really except by each individual's code of what is and isn't indecent. Their wording is too vague.
Because of this vagueness, the girl could have a lawsuit against the airlines for discrimination.

HI PFM. I would guess the airline can be the arbiter of lewd. Their airlines their rules. They don't let drunk people on either. Who decides what "drunk" is? The airline personnel.
She wasn't denied travel so there was no discrimination, IMO. I would agree she felt embarrassment, but to sue over that would be frivolous, IMO.

 

[angelmom]

You answered your question with your line before your question :crazy:
Because it's her right to tell everyone about it.

Oh, of course she has a right to be on the Today show. I guess I don't understand why they invited her on. I mean, who cares? Must be a slow news day. Or Matt's bored.