Deceased/Not Found Spain - Ana Knezevich, 40, from Florida, going through divorce, trip to Madrid, 5 Feb 2024 *suicide arrested husband**

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A few more details from the Spanish press. Apologies for any repetition:

*Joaquín Amills, president of CNDES (National Centre for the Disappeared - connected to the Ministry of the Interior), is acting as the family's spokesperson. He has gone on record as saying he is extremely concerned and that, in his experience, this type of situation rarely has a good outcome.

*He also made the point that, despite being widely shared, he's surprised that so far, not a single piece of information has been lodged with the Centre. Basically, no calls, no clues.

*Ana's doctor prescribed her anti-depressants following the divorce. The divorce is described as "complex."

*The press here says the gap between the English text and the Spanish text was of 3 hours, not 2. And to be clear, both texts were to her friends, not the brother. I'm assuming Sanna forwarded on her text to him.

*The day after her disappearance, the fire department were called and they accessed her flat via a window. They found nothing out of place, nothing supposedly missing. (Except for her phone). On the 4th, one of her friends (Sanna, I assume) officially denounced her disappearance with the National Police. (Denouncing someone or something is basically giving a statement to the police in Spain, after which the complaint is then transferred to the appropriate department -- this can be anything from a noisy neighbour to a missing friend).

*Amills said that from the very beginning, it has been "difficult to imagine" that her disappearance was voluntary. So, we can be almost certain that the police didn't waste any time in seeing suspicious elements in this case.

*My own observation: there is heavy use of CCTV across Madrid, but particularly Salamanca. This is double-edged. On the one hand, it's a tremendous amount of footage to sift through. On the other, the likelihood of someone leaving the area with Ana and being seen by no eye or lens is extremely hard to imagine. Even if an intruder had a car waiting nearby, the police would be able to trace such a movement from the car, to her building, and back out again.

*According to CNDES, Ana is 1'45 metres tall and weighs 45kg. So, very petite.

If Ana was going away voluntarily with someone for a couple of days, wouldn't she pack a bag, so there would be a suitcase or something missing from her apartment? If she left her apartment in a hurry to go off with this person, wouldn't the room be somewhat in disarray if she grabbed a few items of clothing and left quickly?

As for the cameras around her apartment building, if she disappeared from some other location then she wouldn't appear on the cameras near her residence.

Perhaps they are also looking at CCTV from near her therapist's office if she went there the day she went missing.
 
  • #162
Ana's friend SR traveled to Spain from Sweden on Feb 8. In the preceding days she contacted Ana's husband who told her he was in Florida. She asked him to join her in Spain. When they spoke next on Friday (presumably Feb 9) he was in Serbia. I wonder if it was a sudden decision to go there.

SR makes a good point about Ana not mentioning to any of her friends on Friday that she met someone new that day, despite being in contact with friends until 10pm.

New video:
 
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I did use whatsapp on my laptop and had to use a QR code to login there for the first time, a QR code that i had to scan with my phone. But once it's on your laptop/other device you can login without using a new QR code or password. So if whatsapp was already installed on a laptop at their home for example they can login without any issues. I'm located in europe, not sure if that's relevant but europeans are big whatsapp users.
I guess in my mind that's moreso a reconnection than a login event per se -- not much different from refreshing the page while already logged into WS, for example -- and distinct from what happens when the device is actually logged out of the WhatsApp account (as happens e.g. if the master device is powered off for 14 days, and in which case the QR code would have to be scanned again). Still, your main point is a valid one: if there were to exist a device that were already logged in in this manner, it could be used.

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If Ana was going away voluntarily with someone for a couple of days, wouldn't she pack a bag, so there would be a suitcase or something missing from her apartment? If she left her apartment in a hurry to go off with this person, wouldn't the room be somewhat in disarray if she grabbed a few items of clothing and left quickly?

As for the cameras around her apartment building, if she disappeared from some other location then she wouldn't appear on the cameras near her residence.

Perhaps they are also looking at CCTV from near her therapist's office if she went there the day she went missing.
Absolutely. And if she was only living in Spain temporarily (at least that was the initial plan), I can't imagine she'd have 18 suitcases to pick from.

I'm still yet to hear there was actual CCTV in the apartment block beyond the intercom cam. Do we know this for sure? There is KFC right next door though (and along that whole street).

The messages from her (supposedly) on the Saturday say she walked back from therapy. So, if the Spanish police don't find her on CCTV anywhere between there and her home, they know those texts are BS from the jump.
 
  • #166
My only thought on this is that I’ve personally never seen an English-speaker use the contraction “2h” for 2 hours. Spanish-speakers do, however, such a contraction both for timings and the hour. So, if I meet you at 14h, it’s two o clock etc. But so too would a Spaniard say “it’s a 2h movie” etc
Not sure if that's of importance, but in Europe, the "2h" format is common in many countries.
Sadly, I find it more likely someone would simply use her phone posing as her (though this assumes she had no pin code on her phone? Or the pin code was demanded?).
I'm assuming she did have a pin on her phone - or a fingerprint reader. IMO most adults do, especially if they have bank and work stuff on the phone, too. So in my mind, the culprit got access to her phone - either via knowing the pin (likely) getting it out of her that night (notably less likely), or having another access:
actually, I mostly use the fingerprint reader, because it's just faster than typing. And AFAIK, fingerprints are still readable post-mortem, at least for some time. Of course her family and friends might know if her phone had a fingerprint reader or what model it was.
Upon reflection, what really surprises me is the fact that the messages are, essentially, identical!
This is what makes me feel sure that the messages are not sincere: either sent by someone else after she was killed or immobilized (more likely) or sent by her with someone forcing her (notably less likely, would you give a kidnapped person a phone for texting? I don't really think so, pointless risk).
I can understand sending identical if it's something mundane to many people ("the meeting will be at 11 not 10 because I have a dentist in the morning") or contains some info you have to copy anyways ("my bank account is 12345678765432, no rush!") or maybe is sharing the same meme with a small comment ("OMG, just like John!"). But not something in 2 different languages, several hours apart and about meeting someone really special. These texts were not sent by a girl falling in love.
Even though he was in Florida in January to file a police report for his "stolen motorcycle equipment..." I wonder if his "helmet" got stolen too.
My first thought about him reporting a theft so close to the event - disposing of evidence.

I'm going to be blunt here:
Statistically, it's the ex-husband.
Looking at the facts in this case, it's someone who has a personal motive, knows her very well, has some knowledge of Columbian Spanish, had the motive to send out these texts, and had the access to her phone.

And then the ex-husband is not really helping to find her and goes to Serbia.
I'll eat my hat if he's not involved.
 
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Ana's friend SR traveled to Spain from Sweden on Feb 8. In the preceding days she contacted Ana's husband who told her he was in Florida. She asked him to join her in Spain. When they spoke next on Friday (presumably Feb 9) he was in Serbia. I wonder if it was a sudden decision to go there.

SR makes a good point about Ana not mentioning to any of her friends on Friday that she met someone new that day, despite being in contact with friends until 10pm.

New video:
So, right there, the police can (in theory) catch him in an early lie. He was either in Florida in the days before the disappearance or he wasn't. Plane records etc.
 
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I wonder where his attorney is located. U.S.? Serbia? Spain?
Would love to know that. Has anybody seen a name? Maybe in the Serbian press? It's possible he's simply communicating through his long-term attorney who he uses for matters across all practises.

Because if he has hired one the second Ana went missing... (Not that it isn't smart to hire a lawyer off the bat if you're innocent of course).
 
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I, for one, am related to a member of the Spanish police who speaks English. So, that doesn't stack up. Plus there are interpreters. Perhaps he means they don't speak English widely. Which is obvious, I guess.

Not going to a country because you don't speak the language is a BS reason -- 100%.
If you watch the interview of her brother, that's what he stated.

You're related to a police officer in Madrid handling this case!?
 
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The brother said they gained access on Sunday via the window. (Though the Spanish press says it was actually the fire department).
CNN's sources are stated as "the building superintendent and two other people with knowledge of the situation". Didn't the court reject to issue a search warrant in the first few days?
 
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If you watch the interview of her brother, that's what he stated.

You're related to a police officer in Madrid handling this case!?
No, related to police in Spain! If he were connected to this case, I would be all over him...
 
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Would love to know that. Has anybody seen a name? Maybe in the Serbian press? It's possible he's simply communicating through his long-term attorney who he uses for matters across all practises.

Because if he has hired one the second Ana went missing... (Not that it isn't smart to hire a lawyer off the bat if you're innocent of course).
His attorney is located in Florida. His name was given on Cuomo: Ken Padowitz.
 
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CNN's sources are stated as "the building superintendent and two other people with knowledge of the situation". Didn't the court reject to issue a search warrant in the first few days?
Edited to say maybe there *WASNT* enough for the police to get a warrant but the concern was such that the fire dept were able to do a welfare check? Because I thought it was strange that they would be involved in this at all on first hearing it...
 
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I guess in my mind that's moreso a reconnection than a login event per se -- not much different from refreshing the page while already logged into WS, for example -- and distinct from what happens when the device is actually logged out of the WhatsApp account (as happens e.g. if the master device is powered off for 14 days, and in which case the QR code would have to be scanned again). Still, your main point is a valid one: if there were to exist a device that were already logged in in this manner, it could be used.

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Her husband is a cybersecurity expert and owner of an IT company. It's likely he's aware of this 4 Ways to Read WhatsApp Messages from Another Device [2023]
 
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His attorney is located in Florida. His name was given on Cuomo: Ken Padowitz.
"Kenneth Padowitz, P.A. exclusively practices Criminal Defense law for 35 years"

"We specialize in high profile and high-stakes criminal defense cases..."

Well, well, well.
 
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His attorney is located in Florida. His name was given on Cuomo: Ken Padowitz.
His attorney is a former Homicide Prosecutor.

"Kenneth Padowitz is a former Homicide Prosecutor with the Broward County State Attorney's Office for 16 years and a practicing Trial Lawyer for 33 years. Throughout his career, Ken has tried over 400 jury trials and 35-First Degree Murder Trials."

"Broward criminal lawyer, Ken Padowitz, has been featured in the media and on national T.V. hundreds of times as a legal commentator; he has also lectured extensively on various legal topics throughout Florida and the United States."

 
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And then the ex-husband is not really helping to find her and goes to Serbia.
I'll eat my hat if he's not involved.
Given what we know so far, I'm also going to have to say bon apetit. Happy and hoping to be proved wrong of course...
 
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His attorney is a former Homicide Prosecutor.

"Kenneth Padowitz is a former Homicide Prosecutor with the Broward County State Attorney's Office for 16 years and a practicing Trial Lawyer for 33 years. Throughout his career, Ken has tried over 400 jury trials and 35-First Degree Murder Trials."

How quickly did this Mr. Padowitz go on record? Do we know the earliest mention? I think it was pretty early, right?

Which leads to the obvious question: when your ex-wife, who you are on good terms with, disappears beyond all reason and logic, why did you suddenly go to another country and have a defence lawyer speak for you?
 

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