Stacy Ann Peterson, Bolingbrook IL #9

[dee10134]

So....... if Thomas Morphey DID help DP dispose of Stacy, has he said WHERE they disposed of it???????

Or did Thomas Morphey only load the barrel into the Denali then leave DP to drive off where ever he disposed of Stacy? Which then makes sense that he just dumped her off the back of his truck somewhere and not actually carried her deep into the woods, because if the barrel was so heavy that DP needed another man to help, then he certainly couldn't have carried it deep into the woods somewhere.

IMHO I think he pulled up to a boat ramp and dumped it off of a dock or ramp somewhere. I don't think he could have carried the barrel a long distance by himself...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I thought what was said to clergy was confidential???:innocent:

I would think the clergyman would have been obligated to tell LE if someone came to confess a murder. However, she wasn't confessing to anything, but repeating hearsay and speculation that Drew killed Kathleen. The confidentiality applies only up to the death of the person confiding to the clergy, is my understanding.

 

[close_enough]

Suzi & Thoughtfox..(btw, hi there TF! ... waving)

i moved yall's links to the media links thread..i've got to go, but wanted them somewhere i could find them without digging thru the thread...

 

[SuziQ]

I thought what was said to clergy was confidential???:innocent:

I think that depends on what type of Clergy and what the circumstances the information was given to the Clergy. And Clergy have been known to come forward and face the consequences later.

And an FYI and warning to everyone, if a lawyer can make a legitimate argument as to why confidental information of any type is important to his case and the judge agrees. Confidentiality can be overuled. That's exactly what happened to the girl who accused Kobe Bryant of rape and that is how her psych records were used against her.

 

[SuziQ]

Suzi & Thoughtfox..(btw, hi there TF! ... waving)

i moved yall's links to the media links thread..i've got to go, but wanted them somewhere i could find them without digging thru the thread...

Great idea, and thank you.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

So....... if Thomas Morphey DID help DP dispose of Stacy, has he said WHERE they disposed of it???????

Or did Thomas Morphey only load the barrel into the Denali then leave DP to drive off where ever he disposed of Stacy? Which then makes sense that he just dumped her off the back of his truck somewhere and not actually carried her deep into the woods, because if the barrel was so heavy that DP needed another man to help, then he certainly couldn't have carried it deep into the woods somewhere.

IMHO I think he pulled up to a boat ramp and dumped it off of a dock or ramp somewhere. I don't think he could have carried the barrel a long distance by himself...

Supposedly, he dropped Tom off at his house right after they loaded the container about 10:00 pm. Tom only lives a mile or so from Drew. This gave Drew until 11:26 pm before he got the call from Cassandra where he was out of breath and putting his keys in his ignition. They should draw a circle around Drew's house about an hour out and search from there.

You do raise a valid point. How did Drew move the container alone from the truck to deposit it? Pushing it off the back of the SUV sounds plausible. If he dropped it from a bridge, he would have to lift it over the side and there would be a chance the container would open on impact of the water...then what would he do? He surely wouldn't dump it near a boat ramp because the water wouldn't be deep enough to conceal it. It makes me wonder now if he did dispose of her in water. It would be easier to dig a hole and back up to it.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I thought what was said to clergy was confidential???:innocent:

To a priest this would have been confidential if said within the confessional.
To a lay person in the catholic church it would not have been..and it may have been said in a counseling session with a priest or clergy member present..then it would not be confidential.
And the clergy person may not be catholic, they could be protestant and then if they felt she was in danger they may have given this info to police soon after she went missing.
Remember they were in marrage counseling..it could have been through the church..and this could have been in a one on one session with Stacy.

 

[TGIRecovered]

...or maybe Stacy said to the clergy: "If anything happens to me please tell certain authorities...

 

[mysteriew]

Yeah, but LE has Stacy's phone records and ping records. IIRC the ping at 9pm was in Shorewood by Rosetto's home.

IMHO Drew was trying to frame Scott for Stacy's murder/disappearance. Or trying to make his "story" about how Stacy left him for another man more credible....

Yes, and that kind of takes away from the credibility of Morph's statement. Drew P says that he talked to Stacy. Morph says that he was told not to answer the phone and that when the phone rang the caller ID said Stacy. Drew P would know that LE would know how long the phones were in use. I think Morph was told to answer the phone and he did.

 

[TGIRecovered]

I think Morph was told to answer the phone and he did.

Very good theory...since for all we know the part about him not answering may have come from what he told his friend on the phone, not necessarily what police may know now.

 

[SuziQ]

To keep things in the right thread I'm going to post the below information on the Rossetto and cal sag connection here,
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...t=56677&page=9

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http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterso...acy112807.stng

Although they’ve found nothing concrete, investigators speculate that Stacy Peterson’s body may have been dumped near Rossetto’s Shorewood town house, sources say.

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Is the Cal Sag river that is being searched near Shorewood, IL. ?

 

[SuziQ]

Thanks Dee, I see you answered in the Morphey thread. So call sag is not near Shorwood. So what river are the barges being used to clear debris to make it safe to search?

 

[SuziQ]

Delaney posted this in the barrel thread


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Originally Posted by delaney
State Police are looking under the bridge in Lockport which crosses the I&M canal and the Des Plaines River. Last night on the NBC Local News this was confirmed, as a picture of the bridge from the base was shown, with searchers on horseback. I am going out to do a visual later. We have had several low flying State helicopters in the area since yesterday.

 

[Leila]

ok, i'm going to ask a question & i'm not downing Stacy, don't get me wrong here......

i read somewhere that DP said that Stacy was his alibi for the time period when Kathleen died....does anyone think that Stacy knew all along that DP murdered, or had Kathleen murdered?

do you think that DP held this fact over Stacy's head for awhile, & that's why she went to a priest/minister to confess???

i think DP made Kathleen out to be a monster & that's why Stacy went along with DP in harrassing Kathleen at her home...like flipping her off in her yard, & making a video of Kathleen arguing/fighting with DP...

just want to get some thoughts on this....

According to some reports Stacy was only 15 or 16 when she became involved with DP. At that age, and without a strong father figure in her life, she probably accepted all that DP said and did as the right thing to do. After all, in her young mind, policemen don't do anything wrong and are our heros. I think at her young age she may have initially accepted DP's explanation that Kathleen's death was accidental. When the coronor's jury ruled it was accidental, that was all the more reason to believe DP.

Later, after they were married and Stacy matured, things DP said and did may have given her doubts. They may have argued and he let something slip during the heat of the argument. As the marriage went downhill and the arguments were frequent, he probably told her, "yes I killed her, and made it look like an accident, and the coroners jury believed it was an accident. If you don't straighten up, the same thing can happen to you."

I think Stacy's understanding may have been a gradual process, going from accepting that Kathleen's death was accidental, to doubts and suspicion, to fully understanding that Kathleen was murdered by DP. I think she may have felt guilt for anything she may have done in harassing Kathleen, and felt trapped, and that may have prompted her to seek out the clergyman.

 

[mysteriew]

It seems as though every time Drew P opens his mouth, he gives up more to marvel at about what an a** he is.

But everytime his attorney speaks, he gives just a little bit more new info.

this. Drew had 4900 hours of accrued personal time at the job after 29 years. He was due to retire in about 45 days on December 15th.

If he didn‘t use those accrued - those accrued personal hours, he would lose them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22025190/

Okay, Drew was not due to retire until Dec. 15th. The usual procedure when you have accrued time is to put in your notice and to then take your accrued time until it runs out. But instead Drew P turns in his resignation in Nov. By turning it in early, that means he just shorted his pension. If Drew P was only leaving work to be home with the children, he would have just used all of that personal time until his regular retirement date. More evidence that what we suspected was true. Drew P was in deep doo-doo at work and feared what action was being taken against him.
So thank you Mr. Brodsky for confirming our suspicions.

 

[Leila]

Interesting that she told a clergyman. It then mentions she told 2 others close to her that she issued the ultimatum to Drew that Sunday she went missing...my bet is that one of those others is Cassandr, the other either Sharon or SCOTT R.
This makes perfect sense as to why Cassandra went looking for her right away..she knew abut the earlier confrontation, probably knew about other things too..so she knew something awful had happened to Stacy.
I think the clergyman, Cassandra and Sharon have all been in contact with the police , as well as ThomasM right from the beginnning. It wasn't a long time at all between missing person to probable murder.

I think you might be right on target! In one of the reports it stated that when Cassandra went to the Peterson home at 11:00pm on Sunday and finding that DP wasn't home, she spoke with one of the two older boys - I think Kris (age 13 or 14) - and that he had told her that his mom and dad had an argument and his dad was out looking for mom. Cassandra also said that the boy told her something else and she declined to state what that was. I've remembered this little detail as I was very curious about what it was that Cassandra wouldn't say.

 

[grace60]

Yeah, but LE has Stacy's phone records and ping records. IIRC the ping at 9pm was in Shorewood by Rosetto's home.

IMHO Drew was trying to frame Scott for Stacy's murder/disappearance. Or trying to make his "story" about how Stacy left him for another man more credible....

If the ping in shorewood was at 9pm Morphy was with him. In the timeline it said Drew took Morphy home at 10pm.

 

[dee10134]

...or maybe Stacy said to the clergy: "If anything happens to me please tell certain authorities...

Good point.

 

[dee10134]

Yes, and that kind of takes away from the credibility of Morph's statement. Drew P says that he talked to Stacy. Morph says that he was told not to answer the phone and that when the phone rang the caller ID said Stacy. Drew P would know that LE would know how long the phones were in use. I think Morph was told to answer the phone and he did.

OR DP talked to his own voice mail for a few minutes then when he got his phone back from Morph, he deleted the voice mail and VOILA! he has a record of "Stacy" having a conversation with him. IDK if a voice mail call would register as a call that was completed or not... I'm assuming yes it would... idk though.

 

[dee10134]

If the ping in shorewood was at 9pm Morphy was with him. In the timeline it said Drew took Morphy home at 10pm.

What time did they meet at Starbucks?