State rests rebuttal case- thread #164

[ElleElle]

One theory is he was in the car with Jodi. Again, another person she used.

Thanks Nhic, I meant MM's phone when JA called him afterwards, wasn't he the first person she called? Wonder where he was?

 

[Tricia]

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[jusdafacts]

I agree, I hope it gets clarified, but what I got from it is, that is the helio she said she lost, and since the picture was taken on June 3rd, it proves it was not lost, it also proves she had the taped conversation for blackmail:

May 10th: taped sex conversation
May 15th: Picture taken with that phone of her and her dog
May 17th-18th: She claims she lost the phone - really wanted that known
June 3rd: Pictures of her with dyed hair

The camera guy did not say just the new pictures were from that helio he said ALL of the pictures JM was showing were from that helio, including the one of her and the dog, and the one of her and her sister. All was on same phone that she told the jury was lost.

Don't forget about the pictures of her "cut" hand from loading margarita glasses into the dishwasher at Casa Ramos - around the first of June. Those pictures were also taken with her helio

 

[wasnt_me]

Yet another Jodi lie:

The Upsidedown License Plate

She says it happened in Pasadena at Starbucks--on her way to Travis' house. However, after the murder, she had to go through a checkpoint at Hoover Dam. They would have looked at her license plate during the check. I lived near Laredo, TX & there was a checkpoint--they were always noting license plates.

I'm listening to Jodi's testimony & trying to note each lie as I go!

After you're done making all those notes of her lies, go ahead and label that 100,000 word novel "Lie to Me."

 

[katiedid2]

True. But Jodi's mother is not begging. She is laughing, smirking, and generally behaving in an extremely disrespectful way towards the Court and the victim's family.

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one that feels that way!
Absolutely detestable behavior and I'm sure the jury has watched both victim and defendants family and has seen how odd the mom acts. This is her daughter who may very well receive the death penalty. Unacceptable behavior very Immature hmmmm like the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree. Even poor granny seems detached.

 

[Pink Panther]

I think that if Juan opened that door it would give the jury room for "reasonable doubt". :twocents:

Well then I have to wonder why the DT didn't bring it up?

 

[katiedid2]

Don't forget about the pictures of her "cut" hand from loading margarita glasses into the dishwasher at Casa Ramos - around the first of June. Those pictures were also taken with her helio

Ummm excuse me she was cutting apples according to ALV :floorlaugh:

 

[SwampMama]

In discussions I had about this before, Sleuthers came to the conclusion that she got the water from Darryl or Matt because she'd have to have a costco membership and there were none in her hometown at the time. So that would mean that she didn't get the Costco water until after McDonalds.

Here I added her glamour shots to the Walmart day and I'm trying to figure out when she got her hair done. Maybe between 10am and her 1257pm call to Travis?

It is somewhere in the interrrogation footage that Jodi says that Darryl footed the bill at costco for her water

 

[kaydono]

Yet another Jodi lie:

The Upsidedown License Plate

She says it happened in Pasadena at Starbucks--on her way to Travis' house. However, after the murder, she had to go through a checkpoint at Hoover Dam. They would have looked at her license plate during the check. I lived near Laredo, TX & there was a checkpoint--they were always noting license plates.

I'm listening to Jodi's testimony & trying to note each lie as I go!

You are going to end up with an notebook full. Let us know how many you find. I am curious. :websleuther:

 

[ElleElle]

My gut feeling is Gus is 100% involved. He was so defensive on the stand.

Wan't MM new to PPL too? Did Gus and MM know each other?

It also shows him OUT OF TOWN for most of the day on the 4th!!!!

 

[katiedid2]

I agree, I hope it gets clarified, but what I got from it is, that is the helio she said she lost, and since the picture was taken on June 3rd, it proves it was not lost, it also proves she had the taped conversation for blackmail:

May 10th: taped sex conversation
May 15th: Picture taken with that phone of her and her dog
May 17th-18th: She claims she lost the phone - really wanted that known
June 3rd: Pictures of her with dyed hair

The camera guy did not say just the new pictures were from that helio he said ALL of the pictures JM was showing were from that helio, including the one of her and the dog, and the one of her and her sister. All was on same phone that she told the jury was lost.

I hope this wasn't lost on the jury ya think they took notes on this?

 

[Pink Panther]

Since I missed all of last week, and videos I will looking at is this one and I will try to study it to see if Juan specifically states which camera phone . I am surprised while they were on the stand he did not differentiate whether it was the same phone or a different phone. the previous testimony by Jodi or Gus was that insurance was used after the previous one was lost. But I don't remember any evidence to any of that coming up in the trial anytime?

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Please let us know if you find anything about this!

 

[wasnt_me]

BBM ~

Distance between Mesa, Arizona (AZ) and Salt Lake City, Utah (UT)

How many miles? 729 Miles / 1173 Km
How many hours? This take 10 hours 37 mins

It would have way faster to get from Pasadena to SLC. I think she made a detour to Travis' when all she got his voicemail while she calling him from Pasadena. He was ignoring her imo

2BBM~ She called Ryan last because now she has alibi set in place and doesn't care if he waits for her or not. She knew she had to be in time for the business meeting which I believe was Jun5 anyways.

Yes, I'm in agreement that she doesn't care if Ryan waits, but it wound up being 24 hours which is a red flag that she went off the grid of 24hrs. I can't reconcile that she'd leave a gap like that on purpose.

The only way I can reconcile it is if she did plan to go to Travis, kill him that night, and just be like 5 to 10 hours late to Ryan, but not 24--over 24, really because she called him 24 hours after to Pasadena, but still didn't get to him till the morning of June 5th. Am I not making sense?

Maybe she didn't care if Ryan waited, but with all the great care she was making to formulate an alibi, seems like she'd know the police would question this gap.

 

[EquallyDivided]

I agree, I hope it gets clarified, but what I got from it is, that is the helio she said she lost, and since the picture was taken on June 3rd, it proves it was not lost, it also proves she had the taped conversation for blackmail:

May 10th: taped sex conversation
May 15th: Picture taken with that phone of her and her dog
May 17th-18th: She claims she lost the phone - really wanted that known
June 3rd: Pictures of her with dyed hair

The camera guy did not say just the new pictures were from that helio he said ALL of the pictures JM was showing were from that helio, including the one of her and the dog, and the one of her and her sister. All was on same phone that she told the jury was lost.

I'm going to go watch again, because I've now confused myself.

If we are right ... It means ...

1. She directly lied to the Jury
2. She lied (or rewrote) the diary

Two major issues.

 

[katiedid2]

My gut feeling is Gus is 100% involved. He was so defensive on the stand.

Wan't MM new to PPL too? Did Gus and MM know each other?

Elle
Gus involved how? I believe you just curious as to his involvement and I didn't know mm joined ppl too?
Y'all are sharpe cookies y'all don't miss a beat. Your contributions are amazing! That's a compliment.
:seeya:

 

[wasnt_me]

I hope this wasn't lost on the jury ya think they took notes on this?

It's lost on me. I thought they were saying she now has two Helio phones. Is that not true?

 

[katiedid2]

I'm going to go watch again, because I've now confused myself.

If we are right ... It means ...

1. She directly lied to the Jury
2. She lied (or rewrote) the diary

Two major issues.

I've always thought she rewrote the diary to suit her. As far as lying to the jury she's done that so much.
Watching nancy grace reruns! Jodie answers the jury with "lying isn't something I normally do" it's to protect Travis . its to Edify Travis and not de - edify bah blah blah

 

[Truth Detector]

That's interesting about Santa Cruz, since it becomes apparent that there's some "WE" people involved with her going and being there.

Where did Gus live again?

Lived and officed in Yorba Linda, CA, but the motor home enabled him to be wherever he could drive.

He and JA both acknowledge that Gus was her personal mentor at the time of the murder.

 

[zoey]

Yet another Jodi lie:

The Upsidedown License Plate

She says it happened in Pasadena at Starbucks--on her way to Travis' house. However, after the murder, she had to go through a checkpoint at Hoover Dam. They would have looked at her license plate during the check. I lived near Laredo, TX & there was a checkpoint--they were always noting license plates.

I'm listening to Jodi's testimony & trying to note each lie as I go!

Part of the trip was to see some places on that 1000 places to see before you die. Don't think she stopped to see anything in that book. However ended Travis's chances

 

[gwenabob]

I'm going to go watch again, because I've now confused myself.

If we are right ... It means ...

1. She directly lied to the Jury
2. She lied (or rewrote) the diary

Two major issues.

Good point. Once you have watched, could you follow up on this for us?

I follow this case as closely as I can with a full time job, but I have missed a lot of testimony. I would love it if someone could lay out the lies to the jury and in her journal related to his issue. Thanks in advance! :seeya: