State rests rebuttal case- thread #165

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Oh that is a lovely thing to do in travis's memory. Although he is gone he will live on and do so much good

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And honestly, even if the DT presented us with an xray of that finger having an actual break in it, I would never believe that JA didn't break it while in jail to back up her story. Just saying......I would break my own finger if I was in her place, wouldn't you?

First of all, I would never be in her place. It would never, ever go this far.

If I ended up killing someone and knew it, I would step forward and pay the penalty. I would not be lying to make things look more favorable to me, or take steps to create a falsehood.

This is the way that I was raised. I have a conscience and strong moral convictions.
 
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Because one of her stories was that Travis did it so she has "proof" of DV if she told the truth that it happened june 4th she would have nothing



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No. Like I already said, these are two different finger injuries. She says she cut her finger in June at work. She also took a picture of these injuries.
 
Lawyers on this thread, please tell us that the ridiculous motion from today to have Dr. G also rebut Dr. Horn's testimony will be denied.
 
Also, she cut her finger(s) on a margarita glass at margaritaville. :facepalm:

Isn't that what she told DB when he questioned her bandaged fingers?

But no establishment named Margaritaville exist in Yreka lmao she can't keep her lies straight! lol
 
I don't want to belabor this point but she admits, based on the evidence, she can only conclude that she stabbed him. She's not throwing down the play by play. It's a different thing.

Right. And based on the evidence she could admit she cut her finger on the knife. I find it so bizarre she can't admit to this.
 
Chris Hughes on dr. D

:tears: :tears: :tears:

Why didn't juan put him on the stand?????!!!!!
 
Yes,his mugshot has been released.He says he wants his privacy..
 
Is the Judge allowing time for Juan to cross-examine this witness? Or will DT run the clock out on the court day?

JM will have time for cross.

I would imagine that JSS has set a fairly narrow framework for testimony to keep this short. If the questioning veers from that, expect to see JM object. The lawyers may be asked to approach the bench, with JSS admonishing the DT to stay on point.

I'll go so far as to venture that JSS has already spoken to the DT about any potential migraines and how they will be handled, so as not to disrupt the announced court schedule.

The judge does not want to see this run more than one day.
 
Sky Hughes nicknamed Jodi "Peyton" from the movie "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle", because she was so creepy! She did that over a year before she killed Travis. They had her number. Also, it has finally been answered......they did tell Jodi bad things about Travis, because they wanted her away from him, not because they were trying to warn Jodi about anything. They didn't want Jodi around their own children. Why weren't they called by Juan to testify?
 
Chris Hughes on dr. D

:tears: :tears: :tears:

Why didn't juan put him on the stand?????!!!!!

I wondered that too. I know he went to court and nurmi questioned him and he said he would not be happy about testifying on JA's behalf because "she murdered my friend in cold blood." I suppose he could not be impartial...Little did they know what ALV was gonna say and do and dr. samuels for that matter as well...sigh...
 
just watched Dr. Drew and Chirs Hughes' answer to Dr Drew's last question really brought so many tears...so profoundly and unspeakably sad.... Dr Drew asked him if he thinks Travis ever loved JA and Chris said he hates to use that word in this situation but he knows Travis really cared about her... I knew it. Travis had a deeply, deeply kind soul and he cared for this deranged, evil person. He put up with her madness and antics due to his utter kindness and his beautiful, compassionate, forgiving soul...and she butchered him and she trashed him on the stand. It is so diabolical.
 
Calling it a night here peeps :) Kinda procrastinating on the going to bed thing...the last time I slept I had a dream about Gus Searcy.... can you blame me for not wanting to close my peepers again? LOLOLOL

Have a safe night all!
 
Right. And based on the evidence she could admit she cut her finger on the knife. I find it so bizarre she can't admit to this.

She can't bring herself to acknowledge the knife attack. Really, it's just too vicious.
 
Calling it a night here peeps :) Kinda procrastinating on the going to bed thing...the last time I slept I had a dream about Gus Searcy.... can you blame me for not wanting to close my peepers again? LOLOLOL

Have a safe night all!

lol nite my dear =D
 
Yes, except she made brand new lies about the finger IN THE MIDDLE of the trial...I was really confused about that too. I just rewatched Day 26 (or 25?) of the trial, and here is what I noted:

- Jodi admitted during Juan's cross that she hurt her left index finger during the killing (the same finger she had been claiming happened after the "pedo" incident).
- Then, once she realizes the mistake she's made, a couple of minutes later she says to Mr. Martinez that she thought he had been talking about the pedo finger injury. Even though they had been talking about the killing the whole time, so there's no way she could have been confused about which day and which injury. But I don't think she actually slipped up and made a mistake, there's no way she would have made such a serious mistake and repeated it a couple of times. I think what happened is that because she is basically memorizing all the "incidents" and virtually everything that is in the trial, she has multiple let's say "databases" in her brain. This box is for the abuse incidents, this box is for things related to Matt, this box ia for Darryl, this box is things leading up the the killing, this box is killing...and one of those boxes is for her supposed injuries - let's say the Injury Box. So when he was asking her about injuries from the killing...she automatically went to her "injury box" to retrieve everything she had memorized in there. In this box are the various finger injuires. But when he was asking her if she hurt her head since she claimed she hit her head on the tile, it suddenly came to her that she had to say something about her head...this wasn't in her "box" before. So her mind was busy trying to formulate an answer to include the maybe "bruised skull," and she was so busy thinking that she didn't realize that the finger injury from her Injury Box was actually from the "pedo incident", not from killing.
- So then the next day during re-direct, she had to fix her mistake about the left index finger. She then said she "doesn't remember" if it was injured on June 4 or not...and she's "not saying if there was or wasn't." So basically what she did there was fix her mistake by saying oh I'm not saying that there was but I'm not saying there wasn't, either. So slick.
- Then she ADDS a NEW finger injury to her story. Her right index finger was hurt on May 31st or June 1st when she was moving the margarita glasses at Casa Ramos. I don't know what the point of the addition of this "injury" was for...I guess they were trying to say this accounts for one of the fingers with the bandaid that Ryan Burns saw? But it doesn't make sense because she THEN says....
- the injuries to the REST of her fingers on her right hand were from dropping a glass on the morning of June 4 when she was getting water from the water dispenser at Travis' house. So that's supposed to account for the right hand injuries...oh except for the right index finger which was due to the Casa Ramos incident. To me, the Casa Ramos incident is not even necessary she could have just said all the ones on the right hand fingers were from dropping the glass. She just can't help but add to her lies!
- in Nurmi's re-direct, she goes back to saying her left ring finger was hurt on Jan 22 after the "pedo incident.
- then I recall there was also what she had told ALV something about hurting one of her fingers cutting green apples.

ALL THIS CONFUSION.....

goes back to your point...why didn't she just ADMIT that her finger injuries were from the killing?? I don't get it either. Obviously she is saving her left ring finger injury to support her "pedo" claim. But why did she feel the need to make stories for all her other finger injuries?

I cannot fathom, in my rational mind, how many lies, and how much testimony was focused on Jodi and her fingers. I know there is no definitive answer, but why all the lies upon lies, upon lies,upon lies regarding a fingers? She is beyond ridiculous. Did she think if she told a new lie, people would disregard all the other ones? I forgot, we are all morons, and she is far above us intellectually, cough cough cough. :hypno::hypno::shakehead::shakehead::hypno::hypno:
 
Sundawnn: that's a whole lotta info to digest!!!!

I've have always felt those pis from that "day" we're suspect. I've also never really believed her accounts with regard to the sexcapades, especially the time after her baptism. She hadn't known him for very long, If he really did that in the manner in which she testified, she would have felt raped, anyone would, and the burgeoning relationship would be over.

Nurmi must agree with you because he kept trying to get her to say the word "rape" and she just wouldn't do it.
 
Yes, they are 2 seperate "incidents"

But everyone seems to be questioning her injuries from the killing.

I find it real hard to believe after that much brutality she walked out of there and was able to drive away.

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No. Like I already said, these are two different finger injuries. She says she cut her finger in June at work. She also took a picture of these injuries.
 
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