State rests rebuttal case- thread #165

[kaydono]

Yes, that's the one.

I do not openly admit being a follower of any of these ridiculous shows (VH1 Reality shows, not HLN).
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH don't tell anybody. :giggle::giggle:

 

[gauntlet]

At last, Juan's full opening statement on Youtube

[video=youtube;b2i5_OYUMc0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2i5_OYUMc0&fb_source=message[/video]

 

[ElleElle]

Remember those days? I do! I thought i'd be rich why I was solicited until my Dad told me they were a whole bunch of crooks. :floorlaugh:

:floorlaugh:@ Amway from the 80s

 

[Linda7NJ]

Not sure, I think there are many possibilities... here is my thought for the time. We know that JA wanted him for herself, so it would make sense to me that if she could have him for herself once more, she would take advantage of that time, and she may have been hoping he would change his mind and take her to cancun.

Also, listening to the recorded sex tape, it is obvious that TA did enjoy her, she was willing to do what many girls don't, especially in his 'circle'. He knew she was trouble, but I don't believe he had any clue that she would go to the extreme of killing him, so being persuaded to 'get down' as JM would say would not surprise me. Maybe she was wearing the maid uniform when she arrived (I'm kidding) I think KN made a copy of that picture

I was wondering today... If Travis married her .....

He had that whole Madonna / thing going on....

Just mulling it over....


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[cubbeegirl]

At last, Juan's full opening statement on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2i5_OYUMc0&fb_source=message

Thank you...thank you...thank you !!!!!!!!!!

 

[Nhic]

Good point. I would knock and ask if everything is ok. But, this Chris Hughes who saying this story, who knows if he is BS'ing.

If he was so worried about Travis, wouldn't he try to find him before Cancun?

You'd think eh? Then again, Chris wasn't TA's babysitter, they did lead separate lives, in different states. I don't know what to think about Chris and Skye, all I know is I'd believe anything they said over anything JA says. :floorlaugh:

 

[123crod]

Start at post 338 and bring your tissues:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201611&highlight=elephant+gun&page=15

Thank you so much. Everyone should read that. Touching and special

 

[norcat]

There aren't any rural routes in Yreka. So every one has a post office box there.

Big Sur is even more remote.

 

[Nhic]

I'd listen! I'm nosey...


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:floorlaugh:

 

[Emmi]

As if they were his ONLY friends, and were such geniuses about everything because they warned him off her. Well, he still kept on seeing her, he just kept it hidden, which made him more vulnerable. He was also now dealing with an ostracised seething Jodi .. a Jodi who was building resentment. They were part of the perfect storm. A little self reflection wouldn't go astray, but all they show is smug superiority.

(I'm not following you, Mrs--promise!-- it's just that your posts are striking me as particularly lucid on this topic ...)

My bold. That's right: Neither Jodi nor Travis was an island or an island of two. Yet, I do not once recall anyone on either side, Jodi's or Travis', or people in their common circle, doing some hand-wringing and asking, "I wonder what I could've done?" or "I felt something was very wrong, but just wasn't sure what to do" or "now I see that there were signs that Jodi/Travis/the relationship was deeply troubled but I didn't recognize them then."

I don't mean to suggest that there was a quick fix, or an easy solution available--but, perhaps some of the damage could've been ameliorated. Yeah: where's the reflection? The critique? The--sorry for this--postmortem of the tragedy itself? It seems that there's something at stake here, and that something is showing up in the smug superiority, priggishness and the minimization of the social conditions which did contribute to the perfect storm.

That's why, to me, the she's-a-raging-sociopath-period as the final analysis is so lacking. She may be just that (though I believe her mental health profile is much more complex) but, at any rate, this summary is the verbal equivalent of dusting off one's hands and drawing one's skirts aside: it makes the whole mess seem hopeless and inevitable.

 

[Linda7NJ]

:floorlaugh:

Just keeping it real...lol


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[kaydono]

Remember those days? I do! I thought i'd be rich why I was solicited until my Dad told me they were a whole bunch of crooks. :floorlaugh:

Do Kirby vacuums fall in that category? Or door-to-door encyclopedias selling?

 

[Nhic]

I was wondering today... If Travis married her .....

He had that whole Madonna / thing going on....

Just mulling it over....


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If that had happened, he would die young anyway as she would suck the oxygen right out of him. Parasitic psychopaths like JA don't know it's in their best interest to keep the host alive for their own survival IMO.

 

[ElleElle]

I also think one of the reasons Travis did not stick with Jodi for the long haul was because of the Hughes' influence. They must've gotten a very bad vibe off her.

You'd think eh? Then again, Chris wasn't TA's babysitter, they did lead separate lives, in different states. I don't know what to think about Chris and Skye, all I know is I'd believe anything they said over anything JA says. :floorlaugh:

 

[Zuri]

Yes, because she had to be back in Yreka for her "shift" and return the car rental (which she was late returning). I don't think she expected the killing to take long, hence she would not be late seeing Ryan B. moo

Elleelle, I love some of your posts! OT: Do you ever sleep? I swear you get about 2 hours break before you are back! You are amazing. I enjoy you.:seeya:

 

[AZWatcher]

Why is this Abe person on DD every other night? He went on ONE date with Jodi. Media/Camera/ Air Time/ Addict much?

He's like a bald Kato Kaelin.

 

[Linda7NJ]

(I'm not following you, Mrs--promise!-- it's just that your posts are striking me as particularly lucid on this topic ...)

My bold. That's right: Neither Jodi nor Travis was an island or an island of two. Yet, I do not once recall anyone on either side, Jodi's or Travis', or people in their common circle, doing some hand-wringing and asking, "I wonder what I could've done?" or "I felt something was very wrong, but just wasn't sure what to do" or "now I see that there were signs that Jodi/Travis/the relationship was deeply troubled but I didn't recognize them then."

I don't mean to suggest that there was a quick fix, or an easy solution available--but, perhaps some of the damage could've been ameliorated. Yeah: where's the reflection? The critique? The--sorry for this--postmortem of the tragedy itself? It seems that there's something at stake here, and that something is showing up in the smug superiority, priggishness and the minimization of the social conditions which did contribute to the perfect storm.

That's why, to me, the she's-a-raging-sociopath-period as the final analysis is so lacking. She may be just that (though I believe her mental health profile is much more complex) but, at any rate, this summary is the verbal equivalent of dusting off one's hands and drawing one's skirts aside: it makes the whole mess seem hopeless and inevitable.

I'd comment. I think I know the answer...but I don't need a vacation. IYKWIM


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[Sulamith]

Yes, but would you stand outside the closed door listening, spying, as JA did, or would you knock on the door?

JA was extremely intrusive with everyone IMO.

I would stand outside the closed door for a few seconds and listen, in the situation CH spoke about. I don't consider what JA did as spying as she knocked on the door, outed herself. CH never said how long Sky's sixth sense told her just how long JA was standing outside of the door. She probably heard her walk up to the door. I know I have much better hearing than my husband. CH and SH and TA probably freaked, not knowing how much JA had heard. And CH had a freaking list for TA?

 

[ElleElle]

I was a Kirby vacuum saleswoman in the mid 90's ! :rocker:

Do Kirby vacuums fall in that category? Or door-to-door encyclopedias selling?

 

[Nhic]

I have a link to a youtube video where Geffner says "females are more likely to use weapons, knives, guns".

Is it OK to post the link?