State rests rebuttal case- thread #166

Status
Not open for further replies.
I actually assumed the family knew what these emails were about .. since it sounds like nobody knows .. perhaps this will remain one of the enduring mysteries of the case. What did she do?
----------------------------------------------------------------
Lots of us here wonder what horrible secret TA threatened to expose in their (late May?) emails/texts.

IMO, something $$$$ related. Something that would shock many people, per TA (including, IIRC, his friends, church, PPL, and her parents).

I read here on w/s the State listed as a witness a financial fraud investigator.

What $$$-related offense could JA have bn involved in?

In cross exam, JM asked her about the last year shefiled US Income Tax returns.
She hacked into TA's email, & soc media a/c's (facebook, myspace).
His bank a/c's? His charge a/c's? His paypal a/c?

But I think it was more than that.
Is it possible, as a PPL rep/agent, she sold PPL policy/coverage to someone and collected the premium (check(s)?) directly from the buyer?
Maybe failed to forward the payment(s) to PPL?
Maybeconverted the funds by depositing the check(s) to her own a/c for personal use?
IMO, poss that TA may have learned of JA's act --whatever it was)just before his threat, but her act may have occurred months before then.


Exposing her for converting PPL funds (if she did) is my hypotheses.
:twocents:
 
Maybe JSS will go right into closing arguments, and no more witnesses.

Imagine? This trial is full of twists and turns, who knows...

Or that their surrebuttal witness cannot rebut Dr. Horn's testimony. I think JM additional witness move was perfect. I think the judge has had enough. This will be never ending if this Dr. Gefner is allowed to rebut the ME and so on and so on. JMO
 
ITA and BBM~ I wondered why they never had a lawyer working for PPL and all.

Also, if CH was the the executor of Travis' will, was he the beneficiary of insurance policies?

Just throwing it out, because some of us look deeper into the surface.

Not sure what relevance who the beneficiary of Travis's estate has here. Chris Hughes isn't under suspicion of murder. Does anyone else really care? It isn't wrong, illegal or suspicious to be a beneficiary as well as an executor/executrix of an estate.

How is speculating on any of that indicative of "looking deeper"?

I am not challenging you. I'm just requesting more information because I do not understand why Travis's choice of a beneficiary and/or executor warrants "a deeper look."

I fear that at some point after Jodi is sentenced and put away, the attention will turn towards Travis and the slings and arrows will begin to fly towards his grave. Suddenly, it will be some action or inaction on his part that sent him to his grave. I hope this will never come to fruition but history has shown that THs are fickle and that fickleness will seep into the rest of society.

:facepalm:
 
Or that their surrebuttal witness cannot rebut Dr. Horn's testimony. I think JM additional witness move was perfect. I think the judge has had enough. This will be never ending if this Dr. Gefner is allowed to rebut the ME and so on and so on. JMO


I agree. I'm guessing the judge is limiting defense expert to rebutt Demarte only.
The defense is lucky to get any surrebuttal at all. They could have called an M.D. In their case but chose to rely on cross examining Dr. Horn. That was their choice.

If BPD was "new", rebutt that. Go ahead and push the PTSD diagnosis! It's absurd.
 
That may be true according to the law however the jury is made up of human beings. I think if the defense is claiming self defense the jury expects them to prove it. I totally get that the defense has no obligation to prove anything one way or the other in the case of premeditation but I think they have to prove self defense or they lose the jury.

Agreed.

I think the lies and allegations against Travis actually worked against her.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
OMG! What about Travis' family?? They are close to the Hughes....but, so what? :sick:
 
DD is not as annoying tonight, but his co-host is. I wish I could just mute her. Maybe he is just less annoying TO ME because she is SOOOOO annoying. I love Janine, hilarious!!
 
According to Shana Hogan (iirc), Matt testified a long time ago in a hearing about the pedo letters. I don't know anything about it other than what I've heard here. I haven't seen a transcript or anything and don't know if there even is one or if it was sealed.

Thank you! I was afraid I missed something more recent.
 
IMO Matt's credibility only became an issue when he stated to the prosecution that he would lie for Jodi.

Sorry, I hate when people do this, but do you have a link for that? I totally missed MM saying that!
 
Wow the truth lady Judy on Dr. Drew, feels that JSS favors JA over the Prosecution. Now I need to find out what past JM and JSS have. I really don't want to say it, but I have felt this all along. UGH. TV TV TV, it's just TV. Is that the law of attraction?
While I find Janine Driver interesting and insightful much of the time, I thought her examples (e.g., Nurmi slouching in his seat) of why she thinks the Judge favors Jodi were pretty lame/insignificant. Moreover, she really tap danced around the question "A LA Jodi" before Dr. Drew was finally able to pin her down and get her to respond. Sometimes Janine just likes to hear herself TALK--about herself.

I think Judge Stephens has ruled fairly, doesn't call attention to herself (not a media hog), and with a eye toward preserving the verdict in the likely event of an appeal. In the end, that will be the true test of the judge's competency/effectiveness in this trial. Appeal denied.
 
BBM~ Or of her Jodi exposing Travis.

IMO, he wanted to expose her to all for what she had done, so he was not afraid to expose her because he knew it was a lie and he was not trying to hide it, he wanted to expose her...if that makes any sense lol
 
To be fair, Matt also is not testifying before the jury and also testified in court outside the jury's presence like Hughes did. There has been much discussion of Matt's credibility. I can't really see much difference between the two other than which side they're perceived to be on. jmo
I'd sure like to see this testimony.
 
:seeya: All,

Would someone be kind enough to post a list of witnesses we can expect tomorrow? Thanks so much!
 
To be fair, Matt also is not testifying before the jury and also testified in court outside the jury's presence like Hughes did. There has been much discussion of Matt's credibility. I can't really see much difference between the two other than which side they're perceived to be on. jmo

Is there any video of Matt? Was he in court? I'm sorry but I don't remember that. I know he gave a deposition but other than that I don't remember. If there is a link please provide it. TIA
 
Only, Sky said she had a bad feeling about Jodi and she ordered her out of her home. Not exactly naive. She had Jodi's number down pat. Sky knew EXACTLY the evil mess that Jodi is. Which is why it's weird that she would take Nurmi's bait on the pedo BS.

We don't know how long she bought it.

If it were me... I'd probably ...freak out...start hyperventilating.,, Run to the phone and start screaming at Juan demanding to know why he didn't tell me!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
What is the source of these quotes/paraphrases: "and what ages did he like?" and "I knew Travis had issues but ..."

Have they admitted to saying these things? From where did you find these statements?

I think they acted in good faith. Kirk Nurmi acted in bad faith. The hypocrisy of filing motions left and right accusing Juan of misconduct? Approaching potential witnesses and lying to them about what he claimed to be authenticated letters that would be admitted into evidence is the epitome of misconduct.

That says more about Kirk Nurmi's lack of character that it does about any gullibility on the part of Sky and Chris Hughes.

for the record... I am in no way defending Nurmi, and never once said he had character to lack. That's kind of my point. Why would you believe someone like that in the first place? JMO
As for the wording, I did say it was similar, I'm not sure if it was exact. And I have watched the trial every day since it started, bits and pieces have been falling since January, IIRC it was when Chris and Skye testified in the mistrial hearing, but I will say IMO or JMO or whatever, because I really don't want to go back and listen to find the exact times they were said.
 
I am bringing over a post that Michael James did on the last thread. below is the cut paste. as Sky Hughes is about to come up on Dr Drew. I thought it would be a good time for everybody to review this post. they were Travis' good friends, he was the executor of his will, and that is good enough for me.


" I remained silent as I read pages upon pages of disparraging remarks against Chris and Sky Hughes, but I can no longer keep to myself.

I have developed a relationship with Chris and he is one of the most caring, concerned, helpful and compassionate people I have ever had the fortune of getting to know.

To claim that the Hughes are somehow hungry for their own fame and glory in regards to this trial is blatantly false. Chris swore he would NOT speak to anyone until the trial was over. While I was surprised when he told me he was doing the Dr. Drew show, I was glad he was. Both Chris and Sky are in AZ now...they rented a house for a month so they could support Travis' family during these last few days of testimony and also to wait with them for a verdict. While Chris was NOT under subpoena, Sky was until just a couple of days ago. It took Wilmott two days to answer Sky's inquiry as to whether or not she could be released from her subpoena.

Chris was the executor of Travis' estate. Everyone knew how important the friendship was between the Hughes and Travis. They only did 48 Hours to talk about their friend.

Chris WAS scared for Travis...he DID try reaching him. He DID reach out to friends in the Phoenix area to do a safety check on Travis. For those on this forum who pretend to know HOW they'd react if they were in the same situation, YOU HAVE NO IDEA what you would actually do!

Chris, Sky and all other players in this nightmare are forever changed. When a few days passed between our communications, imagine my surprise when the local police showed up at my home to perform a welfare check on me! Yes, Chris had contacted them. Since Travis' death, they no longer can "wait" to find out why a person (like myself) may have gone off the grid.

The Hughes are wonderful people. There's nothing insincere or phony about either of them. People ridiculed Sky for "grinning" while she was both on 48 Hours and also on the witness stand. She was nervous! There are people whose mouths are always in an apparent frown....Sky's mouth always has a hint of a smile. It's her facial features, and NOT something sinister or manipulative!

While I understand we are all entitled to our opinions, I cannot stand judgement against people who others have never met, encountered, etc.

As for the Travis Alexander Legacy Fund, this is something very near and dear to NOT ONLY Chris, but also to Travis' family and friends. Having witnessed their most loved Travis being cast as a pedophilic sexual deviant domestic violence perpetrator has served as a motivation to bring Travis' reputation back to that of the honorable, decent, kind, generous, motivated man Travis actually was. Chris has asked me to be on the board...and I can assure all of you that Chris has no intention of taking ANY salary or monies from this fund for personal gain. It's offensive to claim otherwise.

Please be mindful as you trash Chris (and indubidably Sky after tonight's episode of Dr. Drew) that the Hughes have friends on this forum and your statements are highly offensive and hurtful to those of us who know, love and respect them.

Thank you."




Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
219
Guests online
567
Total visitors
786

Forum statistics

Threads
627,117
Messages
18,539,026
Members
241,193
Latest member
karmic14U
Back
Top