State rests rebuttal case - thread #170

[QueenD]

Someone probably put this up, but always good; http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/geffner-wanders-in-from-the-fog/

Love reading the egg tree news, gives me a lift after listening to JW.

 

[amberjul]

I just realized the title of this thread is "What should Juan say to knock it out of the park?"

I think he should say "In my opening I explained how the defendant killed Mr. Alexander three times. You have now witnessed the fourth killing of Travis Alexander."

 

[Nali87]

http://gilli-land.blogspot.com/2013/02/developments-in-jodi-arias-death.html

(snipped)

The court finds the motion for a new finding of probable cause on the aggravating factor
is not timely. Defense counsel learned approximately one year ago that the testimony of
Detective Flores at the hearing held on August 7, 2009 was inconsistent with the testimony of the medical examiner Kevin Horn. The inconsistency relates to the sequence of the wounds inflicted on the victim on June 4, 2008. A motion for a new finding of probable cause should have been filed no later than 20 days prior to trial. Rule 16, Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure. Also see Chronis v. Steinle, 208 P.3d 210 (2009), and Rules 13.5 and Rule 5, Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure.


The court further finds that, even if timely filed, the motion for new finding of probable
cause should be denied. The court finds the evidence relating to the sequence of the wounds was not material to the issue of whether there was probable cause to believe the offense was especially cruel under the theory the crime involved both physical and mental suffering of the victim. See minute entry dated August 18, 2009. The court’s findings in August 2009 support that court’s determination the victim suffered both physically and mentally regardless of when the wounds were inflicted, and that the defendant knew or should have known that the victim would suffer. In its ruling, the court noted the victim was stabbed 27 times, had defensive wounds from grabbing the knife and was shot on the right side of his head. The bullet lodged in the victim’s left cheek. The defendant told police the victim was unconscious after being shot but
crawled around and was stabbed. Based upon these facts, the court concluded the victim would have felt pain and mental anguish associated with the multiple wounds. The court finds the inaccurate testimony of Detective Flores at the hearing on August 7, 2009 would not have changed the court’s finding that the offense was especially cruel and was thus harmless error.
See Pitts v. Adams, 179 Ariz. 108, 876 P.2d 1143 (1994).
The court further finds that the evidence presented at trial in January 2012, including the testimony of Kevin Horn on January 9, 2012, established probable cause to believe the offense was especially cruel under the theory that it involved both physical and mental suffering of the victim. The court finds this evidence established probable cause the victim would have felt pain and mental anguish associated with the multiple wounds inflicted, and the defendant knew or should have known that the victim would suffer. See State v. McCray, 218 Ariz. 252, 259, 183
P.3d 503 (2008), State v. Sansing, 206 Ariz. 232, 235, 77 P.3d 30 (2003) and State v. William
Herrera Jr., 176 Ariz. 21, 859 P.2d 131 (1993).
IT IS ORDERED denying the oral motion for new finding of probable cause on the
aggravating factor the offense was especially cruel.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED denying the motion for mistrial based upon the inaccurate
testimony of Detective Flores at the hearing conducted on August 7, 2009.

The DT has been wasting everyone's time with this crap. A smoke screen, that was it was. More than 50 days of BS so that the jury forgets the 9 or so days Juan showed them his case. I hope his closing is brilliant.

P.S Is he allowed another witness or did we finish? I went to bed.

 

[Colt46]

I think they got a dinner break and probably snack breaks too. Allowances had to be made for Jodi too because she missed her jailhouse dinner and her bus back. Also, it was Wilmott's fault that Dr. Geffner was up there for so many hours- at least it wasn't days!!!
I don't think it ended like a train wreck, the witnesses today were well worth it! Juan made them all prosecution witnesses, including Dr. Geffner- who was a jack of all trades. The final witness, the female neuropsychologist was unflappable and totally backed up Dr. DeMarte and brought up Jodi's lying repeatedly. It was a great finish from what I've seen!!!

When I called today a 'train wreck', I was referring to the fact that this judge crammed all of the sur-rebuttal witnesses into a marathon 11 hour session on the eve of Closing Statements. How alert is that jury going to be tomorrow? Juan probably will be up half the night putting the finishing touches on his closing. Actually, the entire trial has been a train wreck with all of the delays, days off, side bars, etc.
MOO

 

[Hat]

Q: to all psych witnesses:

What if she claimed she was attacked by a tiger but really she was taking pictures of a friendly bear and when he looked up at her with his big soft eyes she stabbed him right in the heart?

 

[amberjul]

The DT has been wasting everyone's time with this crap. A smoke screen, that was it was. More than 50 days of BS so that the jury forgets the 9 or so days Juan showed them his case. I hope his closing is brilliant.

P.S Is he allowed another witness or did we finish? I went to bed.

Juan rested this evening. The morning starts with his closing.

 

[fruity]

This is a really dumb question and I don't want to ask it on the court observers thread because I feel so stupid and they have better things to do.

How do the insiders on that thread get into the court? Do they have to apply? Is it part of their job?

Sorry :blushing:

 

[deedee21]

The laughing and smiling from Dr. G was just not professionl or appropriate at all. Poor Travis is dead and this guy comes strolling in like he was having a jovial old time. And of course Wilcott is right there with him laughing it up in the courtroom.

Incredible. The poor family. I hope they get justice very soon.

Low lifes come in all professions.

 

[deedee21]

This is a really dumb question and I don't want to ask it on the court observers thread because I feel so stupid and they have better things to do.

How do the insiders on that thread get into the court? Do they have to apply? Is it part of their job?

Sorry :blushing:

Some are on the job and others get on lines early in the morning.

 

[amberjul]

Q: to all psych witnesses:

What if she claimed she was attacked by a tiger but really she was taking pictures of a friendly bear and when he looked up at her with his big soft eyes she stabbed him right in the heart?

I would have loved to hear it.

 

[Nali87]

Wilmer turned around to look at the mitigator and both of the had mocking grins on their faces when JM witness was testifying. Low lifes.

Who was his witness?
I can't wait to see JS face when her client is found guity as all living hell. Omg, I went from "She's not likeable, she's just doing her job" to straight up "Cannot stand her!!".

 

[amberjul]

This is a really dumb question and I don't want to ask it on the court observers thread because I feel so stupid and they have better things to do.

How do the insiders on that thread get into the court? Do they have to apply? Is it part of their job?

Sorry :blushing:

S'ok fruity, not a dumb question at all - I would like to do the same thing if a big even local trial comes to town.

No, folks don't apply to the court to be an insider. Katiecoolady is a Victim's Advocate and resides in Arizona. So for her the trial is local and she found time to be there. I believe that she volunteered to report here at Websleuths about her observations.

Really all you need to do is attend the trial and observe. It isn't a paid position except for the press people, who sit on the family side.

Hope that helps.

 

[BetsyB]

Oh boy even The Donald is watching and telling the defendant to make a deal. :lol:


Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 8m
Jodi, if you're listening, MAKE A DEAL!

Donald J. Trump Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
Jodi should try but the Govt. should not make a deal - no jury could be dumb enough to let her off (but you never know, look at OJ & others)

Donald J. Trump Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
Jodi Arias has stated that she follows me on twitter so I really hate to be saying that she is guilty but sadly, she is as guilty as it gets

LOL What would the world do without Trump's keen insights and well-developed ego? (Like Jodi hasn't been shut down in her efforts to plead to lesser charges unacceptable to the family and the prosecution.).

 

[fruity]

Thanks for the answers. Our court system (Australia) is different, and I tried googling but couldn't get a clear answer.

Much appreciated.

 

[amberjul]

LOL What would the world do without Trump's keen insights and well-developed ego? (Like Jodi hasn't been shut down in her efforts to plead to lesser charges unacceptable to the family and the prosecution.).

Just had an image in my mind of the Don pointing a finger to Arias - "You're Fired!"

 

[LinasK]

S'ok fruity, not a dumb question at all - I would like to do the same thing if a big even local trial comes to town.

No, folks don't apply to the court to be an insider. Katiecoolady is a Victim's Advocate and resides in Arizona. So for her the trial is local and she found time to be there. I believe that she volunteered to report here at Websleuths about her observations.

Really all you need to do is attend the trial and observe. It isn't a paid position except for the press people, who sit on the family side.

Hope that helps.

Katie also volunteered to be our onscene eyes & ears in the courtroom for the Scott Peterson trial. It's what she does.

 

[amberjul]

Thanks for the answers. Our court system (Australia) is different, and I tried googling but couldn't get a clear answer.

Much appreciated.

Is it Thursday or Friday in Australia? I'll see if I can't find something on my end. Just a sec.

 

[amberjul]

Fruity -

Didn't find anything about being an insider here, either.

Would be a great job tho, huh!

 

[josie1986]

Good morning :seeya:

Well this is it guys we are in the home straight.
I can feel some tears watching juans closing today, bringing it home for Travis.

I hope jodi is pooping her pants!!!

Sent from my 'alternate reality' using my hippocampus

 

[Nali87]

Juan gets some rest.
JW better sit her butt down and better not object ONCE!!!!!