State rests rebuttal case - thread #170

[Irisha]

If it were me (of course it's not?), I would be overwhelmed with putting the closing together for the prosecution. Not because of lack of material, but because of the overwhelming amount of information from which to choose.

How does he boil down so much evidence, so many photos, videos, interviews, testimony of the liar, data trails, etc. into a comprehensive overview?

I would have such a hard time pulling something this vast into a tidy package. But I know Juan will. I can't wait to hear it.

I think he will take them on a road trip to Travis's house.:rockon:Juan

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Got some sourdough donuts for you. Freshly made.

I think I'm in love. :blushing:

 

[rose222]

Did they finish last night? My internet and cable went out due to storms in the area. IS JUAN UP THIS MORNING?! I didn't cancel my hair appt but it's almost 3 hours from now.
IS JUAN UP?! Help!! :scared:

Yes! Today we have jury instructions, then JM goes first, Defense second and JM gets to have another go at the end.

 

[geevee]

Here geevee- it states that it doesn't matter about the sequence of events:

The court’s findings in August 2009 support that court’s determination the victim suffered both physically and mentally regardless of when the wounds were inflicted, and that the defendant knew or should have known that the victim would suffer.

She is on the hook whether she stabbed him first or shot him first. Change of weapons then= murder 1.

Thanks so much, very compelling, isn't it?

 

[Bittiness39]

Good luck, JM!
Justice for Travis.
No mercy for Jodi!

 

[gcharlie]

I just wanna say that I thought Dr. Hayes was really good on the stand. Geffner goes in the same camp with Samuels and ALV...I had a lot of trouble believing anything he said. When will these people realize that the more they elaborate and go off into tangents, the more they seem like salespeople?
With the tiger/bear thing that Wilmott kept bringing up, I just thought it was so pointless b/c she was trying to get an answer relating to Jodi but based on pure hypotheticals. So yes, DeMarte answered differently than either Hayes or Geffner because she HAD ALL THE INFORMATION, or the "context" to use ALV's favorite term. Samuels and ALV were just hired guns, I'm basically resorted to just disregarding their whole testimony. But compared with Demarte, obviously neither Hayes nor Geffner had any information, they were just asked about hypotheticals, so of course their answers would have differences.

I do wish DeMarte had answered the question a little differently, then she wouldn't have given Wilmott so man chances to bring it up again. SHe could have said something like Hayes said, that if you had actually seen things like claw marks, etc., then you might give a normal person who otherwise has no pattern of lying the benefit of doubt. But you would still want to find the reason why they their answer was incorrect - did they lie or mistaken or couldn't remember or what? But if you did not see any physical evidence, and the person had a history of lying and was in a position of secondary gain, then you would have to disregard the test. And emphasized that the actual event is important, even if it's a difference b/w a tiger and a bear which we wouldn't normaly think the attack would be that different, but actually if you think more about it, it is important b/c triggers would be different, way and place of attack would be different,etc., etc.. I think b/c DeMarte went automatically to no, they're completely different, then it gave the opening to Wilmott to try to paint her like she was just pro-prosectution.

That whole line of questioning yesterday about the bear or tiger was like comparing apples to oranges.

The expert witnesses were discussing the PDS test. DeMarte was discussing the using DSM criteria to prove or disprove PDS test results. They are completely different; in the PDS test, one indicates symptoms and severity. In the DSM profile, one needs to relate the specific trauma to symptoms. That is why DeMarte said that a bear would smell different, look different and attack differently from a tiger. The person would not re-experience or avoid events associated with a tiger if in fact it was a bear that had attacked.

 

[Amber29]

Beth Karas just said the judge did include the lesser charges on the jury instructions. I am so disappointed by this decision. If the family wanted a lesser charge they would have asked JM to accept the plea deal.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

http://youtu.be/gvXP2Nl1WUs

1:16:30 Does anyone else think JA was trying to be seductive yesterday? I finally found one of the times she was doing this.

THAT'S IT. That's the creepy move I saw.

 

[GoAskAllie]

I still maintain that this chick would give Charlie Mason pause for thought. And probably scare him a little bit too
I have a strong feeling that JM is going to have us all in tears with his closing. No doubt in my mind.
God Bless all of the people who have worked with the PT to get to the truth and justice.
The women crying on HLN right now are pretty upset....

She and Charlie have another thing in common--they both like to sing.

 

[leebee52]

I'm nervous the horrid wind here is going to knock out feed and cable. And....I HOPE TO HADES we hear no "objection" words coming from JW mouth.

 

[websurfer]

I sure hope the live feeds work better today- maybe due to the load? idk.

Just wanted to say- I am happy to have joined in vs. just being a reader/lurker over the years- you all are great and awfully funny too.!

Praying for all- this is the day! :rockon:

:seeya:

 

[nawd68]

I hope we see some funny DT blunders during the closing arguments. Remember when Jose Baez said "the truth stops here!" Definitely a Freudian slip.

 

[darcedarce]

I think the judge said 9 am. But I am sure they will be late, as usual.

Jury and counsel there at 9:15 start at 9:30.

 

[Hopeful One]

hahaha I just asked my husband to bring home Arby's so I don't have to cook

Can I have some curly fries??

 

[grammieto5]

Hi cam :seeya:
I was just getting ready to ask the same question ! Also, how do they go about choosing who will be juror's and who will be alternates? Do they put their names in a hat...or a gas can :giggle: and draw them out?

And what happens to the alternates, do they just go home ?

 

[~Lyric~]

Juan is there now!

 

[Angelina Frost]

We know from the jury questions that at least some of these jurors decided some time ago that that she's guilty. Really, really guilty. I think it's possible one or two jurors may want to swim upstream and go for a lesser charge. If so, they are about discover just how strong the current for guilt is. Think raging whitewater. Think tsunami.

I find it very difficult to believe that those theoretical one or two jurors feel passionately that JA is innocent. They may WANT to believe so, even, but I trust that unless they walked in the court room with their minds stapled shut, they will ultimately have their minds changed by the majority of jurors who won't budge in their certainty that JA is guilty guilty guilty of 1st degree premeditated murder.

BBM

I'm struck by that....and I agree with you, but I don't know why I do. Sleepless nights will do that to you I suppose.

ITA that there are many who are FIXED on murder 1. There is no way they would budge for a lesser included. The only possibility for the DT is a hung jury. Not a chance in the world all 12 will go lesser and certainly ZERO chance for outright acquittal.

 

[Bittiness39]

Juan just showed up!

 

[dani]

So much so that I could not post.
Got kicked off several times then came back right at the end..
so? Is today the beginning of the end for slasher?:rockon::jail:lease:

I never did believe in the death penalty...I think life would be good.That way she can get letters from people who are not happy with what she has done...
but whatever the jury decides will be what is it called when the convicted killer says the court or her counsel did not do their job?
She may try that for more time?
She will not give up so easily and will delay like they all do for punishment right?:banghead::seeya:

what is her prisoner number?

Travis should have "life", but he doesn't, so Jodi should get "death"! lease:lease:lease:

 

[Rosemary Pierce]

Yes! Today we have jury instructions, then JM goes first, Defense second and JM gets to have another go at the end.

Thank You Rose!! I cannot wait....justice is near.