State v Bradley Cooper 04/04/11

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  • #221
He just backed the larvae up to indicate the body was deceased at 1am on the 12th. If I heard him correctly.

So this means the prosecution is sticking with the midnight--1am theory of strangulation?

I still don't understand this.
 
  • #222
most activity was 6AM
 
  • #223
He's trying to make it a more clear now. And it all fits the midnight--1am murder on 7/12. Burns and Allen? resource is being referred to a lot.
 
  • #224
Phone keeps ringing and I can't keep up with the testimony. :(
 
  • #225
5:39am civil twighlight; 6:09am sunrise

6am-ish time body was at Fielding Dr. for flies to access. Cannot determine if body was at Fielding BEFORE 5am because of the darkness and adult flies are not active in the dark.
 
  • #226
There ya have it..using that graph and allowing for error rates ..they could now estimate back to 1AM July 12th.....Yikes...I wonder how defense is going to deal with that??..

This goes with my gut feeling, that Nancy was murdered during sleep..then disposed of while the kids slept..and Brad did his HT runs to dispose of items like shoes etal~~

This stuff does show she wasnt alive and running around that morning...

That's what I am getting from this testimony now too.
He was a bit confusing in parts earlier but that was laying the foundation and beating the defense to the punch I suppose.
 
  • #227
He just backed the larvae up to indicate the body was deceased at 1am on the 12th. If I heard him correctly.

So this means the prosecution is sticking with the midnight--1am theory of strangulation?

My damn live feed is buffering something awful today. I didn't catch his exact number of hours/times. :( Every time he led up to a profound statement, the buffering hits again.

:banghead:
 
  • #228
There ya have it..using that graph and allowing for error rates ..they could now estimate back to 1AM July 12th.....Yikes...I wonder how defense is going to deal with that??..

This goes with my gut feeling, that Nancy was murdered during sleep..then disposed of while the kids slept..and Brad did his HT runs to dispose of items like shoes etal~~

This stuff does show she wasnt alive and running around that morning...

The bugs wouldn't help determine time of death...it would help determine time of body dump.

He just said he has nothing conclusive saying her body was there before sunrise on the 12th.
 
  • #229
Agree - this will be the best indicator of TOD - as long as the larval stage is less than 3 days - i.e. they couldn't fly away prior to NC's body being found.

This will, hopefully, be the best testimony to indicate when NC body was dumped, it won't necessarily indicate the TOD, correct?
 
  • #230
My damn live feed is buffering something awful today. I didn't catch his exact number of hours/times. :( Every time he led up to a profound statement, the buffering hits again.

:banghead:

Me too!! AHHHHHH!!!
 
  • #231
Maybe they were deposited from the flys that were in the house that left the maggots from the nasty house after vacation? :waitasec::crazy:
 
  • #232
So bottomline: Entymologist has scientifically placed Nancy's body at Fielding Dr (or at least dead and available for flies to access) by 6am.
 
  • #233
This will, hopefully, be the best testimony to indicate when NC body was dumped, it won't necessarily indicate the TOD, correct?

I guess one would have to assume Nancy was dead when dumped...so if Blow fly evidence indicates before 7AM July 12th, then Brad's telephone call from Nancy was not true..Kinda blows Brad's alibi out the window
 
  • #234
I'm sure the jurors are thrilled to be getting the maggot testimony right before lunch. :crazy:
 
  • #235
Let's pause and consider once again.

NANCY WAS LIKELY DEAD BEFORE 6AM

The FLIES don't LIE.
 
  • #236
I'm sure the jurors are thrilled to be getting the maggot testimony right before lunch. :crazy:
I guess it's better before lunch, than after? :(
 
  • #237
The bugs wouldn't help determine time of death...it would help determine time of body dump.

He just said he has nothing conclusive saying her body was there before sunrise on the 12th.

That would be assuming there were no flies in the house/garage.
 
  • #238
So bottomline: Entymologist has scientifically placed Nancy's body at Fielding Dr (or at least dead and available for flies to access) by 6am.

I thought it was a range of time it could have been there.
 
  • #239
Maybe they were deposited from the flys that were in the house that left the maggots from the nasty house after vacation? :waitasec::crazy:

Either way, It puts Nancy being dead before her telephone call to Brad that morning...She could NOT have mde that phone call as Brad suggests...

Its not a wonder Brad was in such a hurry at HT..He had left the kids unattended at the house and he had alot of work to do when he got home!!!!

DID I already say, I love this type of testimony????:great:
 
  • #240
Does he mean the fire ant damage caused the skin injury, or that it occurred because of a skin injury?
 
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