State v Bradley Cooper 04-19-2011

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we are live...well we were for moment
bringing in the jury...waiting
 
  • #623
wouldn't you need to give it back ..if you no longer worked there??

If software was installed on a machine, the only option is to uninstall the software.
 
  • #624
Murder trial delayed for ex-Edmontonian
Kelly Turner
4/19/2011

The defence in the the murder trial of former Emontonian Brad Cooper stumbled and fell coming out of the starting gate. Cooper's lawyer Howard Kurtz ended yesterday on a high note, getting the key police witness to concede there's not much physical evidence to suggest Brad Cooper murdered his wife Nancy. The prosecution called its last witness and Kurtz hoped to jump to Cooper's defence this morning. That was before the prosecution challenged the knowledge of his opening witness by computer expert Jay Ward Junior. The judge kept the jury out of the courtroom and the two sides with Ward in the middle went back and forth for hours. When there was no end in sight, the judge gave the jury the morning off. The jury, already upset by how long the trial is taking, got more bad news today. The judge ruled that the trial will continue on Good Friday
 
  • #625
I am an attorney myself, interned in the DA's office in Wake County during law school. I don't have an opinion one way or the other if BC is guilty. I did not like the prosecutions case. I imagine A LOT of work went into it to finesse it just right to prove their burden because the evidence is pretty lightweight. I've lurked here for a while because it's pretty interesting to read some of these threads and I am curious as to the outcome since it is in my own county. I did not call the judge corrupt. That is quite a leap but that sort of thing seems to go here with regularity so I won't take it personally. Curious what you all will do if he is acquitted of these charges. Send a lynch mob after him? Oh and I stopped into court last week and took a moment to watch part of the trial. I would pay to be in that jury room during deliberations. This is QUITE an interesting jury.

Do you have an opinion on the judge and the way he has handled this trial? He obviously wears his emotions on his sleeve...is that typical in a courtroom?
 
  • #626
We got a short snippet of Mr Kurtz stipulating for the record that once again, Brads constitutional rights are being violated.
 
  • #627
No, he did the analysis of the report at his home. He generated the MFT report at Cisco.

He did testify that he hooked the hard drive up at home so he had to have run something on it there.
 
  • #628
I am an attorney myself, interned in the DA's office in Wake County during law school. I don't have an opinion one way or the other if BC is guilty. I did not like the prosecutions case. I imagine A LOT of work went into it to finesse it just right to prove their burden because the evidence is pretty lightweight. I've lurked here for a while because it's pretty interesting to read some of these threads and I am curious as to the outcome since it is in my own county. I did not call the judge corrupt. That is quite a leap but that sort of thing seems to go here with regularity so I won't take it personally. Curious what you all will do if he is acquitted of these charges. Send a lynch mob after him? Oh and I stopped into court last week and took a moment to watch part of the trial. I would pay to be in that jury room during deliberations. This is QUITE an interesting jury.

What do you find so interesting about this jury?
I have seen them several times myself and they appear to be everyday citizens of Wake County.

Do you practice criminal defense?
 
  • #629
Maybe he has a business trip. I'm sure his work isn't just local.

Possible and also incredibly lucky for the defense that the state rested on Friday. Otherwise the witness for the prosecution would have been on his business trip and thus no witness for the prosecution.
 
  • #630
Which is why so many were ragging on the prosecution for their case in chief. One must lay the groundwork for future testimony. *If* that was what the defense intended, then they call two witnesses, one to offer proof of hacking and the other to offer proof of tampering. Or ONE witness who is 'certified as an expert' in both fields. Think of Henry Lee, who at one time, prior to his becomming a paid wh*re, was well respected and certified an expert in numerous aspects of his field.

Now that would be cool....bring in Henry Lee to testify if there was any splatter on the hard drives. Or maybe he could change his expertise and testify about byte splatter.
 
  • #631
we are live...well we were for moment
bringing in the jury...waiting

What link are you using..the WRAL link is still test pattern :maddening:
 
  • #632
I am an attorney myself, interned in the DA's office in Wake County during law school. I don't have an opinion one way or the other if BC is guilty. I did not like the prosecutions case. I imagine A LOT of work went into it to finesse it just right to prove their burden because the evidence is pretty lightweight. I've lurked here for a while because it's pretty interesting to read some of these threads and I am curious as to the outcome since it is in my own county. I did not call the judge corrupt. That is quite a leap but that sort of thing seems to go here with regularity so I won't take it personally. Curious what you all will do if he is acquitted of these charges. Send a lynch mob after him? Oh and I stopped into court last week and took a moment to watch part of the trial. I would pay to be in that jury room during deliberations. This is QUITE an interesting jury.

If Brad is acquitted, I think he will fly home to Canada as soon as he can get a suitcase packed.
And as for me, while I think he murdered Nancy, I will never give him another thought.
 
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Murder trial delayed for ex-Edmontonian
Kelly Turner
4/19/2011

The defence in the the murder trial of former Emontonian Brad Cooper stumbled and fell coming out of the starting gate. Cooper's lawyer Howard Kurtz ended yesterday on a high note, getting the key police witness to concede there's not much physical evidence to suggest Brad Cooper murdered his wife Nancy. The prosecution called its last witness and Kurtz hoped to jump to Cooper's defence this morning. That was before the prosecution challenged the knowledge of his opening witness by computer expert Jay Ward Junior. The judge kept the jury out of the courtroom and the two sides with Ward in the middle went back and forth for hours. When there was no end in sight, the judge gave the jury the morning off. The jury, already upset by how long the trial is taking, got more bad news today. The judge ruled that the trial will continue on Good Friday

Wow. Where did get this info. So nothing more until Friday?
 
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Murder trial delayed for ex-Edmontonian
Kelly Turner
4/19/2011

The defence in the the murder trial of former Emontonian Brad Cooper stumbled and fell coming out of the starting gate. Cooper's lawyer Howard Kurtz ended yesterday on a high note, getting the key police witness to concede there's not much physical evidence to suggest Brad Cooper murdered his wife Nancy. The prosecution called its last witness and Kurtz hoped to jump to Cooper's defence this morning. That was before the prosecution challenged the knowledge of his opening witness by computer expert Jay Ward Junior. The judge kept the jury out of the courtroom and the two sides with Ward in the middle went back and forth for hours. When there was no end in sight, the judge gave the jury the morning off. The jury, already upset by how long the trial is taking, got more bad news today. The judge ruled that the trial will continue on Good Friday

bbm

isn't that because a juror needs thursday afternoon off for an orthodontic appt.?
 
  • #635
I agree. I also find his reactions, heavy sighs, staring at the ceiling, etc. to be quite unprofessional for a judge.

Just curious, truly, do you watch a lot of trials? Judges are human. One of the trials my husband was a juror on was in front of Judge Stephens. Hubby really liked him. I think it was Donald IIRC.
 
  • #636
My understanding was that he used the equipment in his 'home lab', not at Cisco?

I did not hear that the Cisco employee supervised Ward. Did you hear that, NCEast? Some here are alledging this was the case.
 
  • #637
I think we all agree that the facts would be ideal. But this trial is what it is and it's been like this since the first week.

The first week was basically taking all the street gossip and intoducing it into evidence ... crazy thing to do since so much time was spent trying to find jurors that were unaware of the street gossip.

This is the sort of testimony we've had:

Investigators theorized that Brad Cooper, an expert in Internet phone technology, somehow made the phone call himself – either by scheduling it or by calling remotely.

"He had the know-how. He had the means to do it and the opportunity to do it," Daniels said.

Defense attorney Howard Kurtz said there was no proof. Brad Cooper didn't have the technology in his home to make the call remotely, and phone logs and records don't indicate he did, Kurtz said.

"You don't have any phone records that can show that's what happened?" Kurtz asked.

"No," Daniels said.

"You have no expert that can show that's what happened?" Kurtz asked.

"No, I don't," Daniels replied.

Daniels said earlier that investigators spent months collecting information and evidence and following up on information in the case.


Ref: http://www.wral.com/specialreports/nancycooper/story/9447679/


He had means, motive and opportunity, but it can't be proven ... but so what, believe that it happened. Personally, I sure wouldn't want to be convicted of anything on that basis.
 
  • #638
bbm

isn't that because a juror needs thursday afternoon off for an orthodontic appt.?

I thought that was next week (the 28th).
 
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Just curious, truly, do you watch a lot of trials? Judges are human. One of the trials my husband was a juror on was in front of Judge Stephens. Hubby really liked him. I think it was Donald IIRC.

No I do not. That is why I asked the attorney a few posts up if this is typical. The only other trial I watched was OJ. No need to get into the professionalism of that judge.
 
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